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On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
[Citation needed]
Note that I am specifically not arguing about the policies of Saudi Arabia and the like - I am speaking of the general opinion among those people who choose to, and are allowed to, emigrate to the United States. Nor am I interested in isolated instances of Muslim bigotry, since I can find isolated instances of that in pretty much any population subset you choose to name.
It has all happened before and it will all happen again. But these new people, they are the ones. They are too different. I know our grandparents said the same thing about the last group of people, but this is different.
Its just like the alt-right. It is different this time. Sure they have some crazy people, but they raise valid concerns. Concerns debunked by facts and expert opinion, but forget that. Sure, they are supported by the KKK and some of the worst parts of our nations, but its different. That one guy isn't overtly racist, he just hangs out with and is employees by racists. But its cool, he makes funny youtube videos mocking people, so its fine. And by people, I mean women mostly.
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
That survey shows you how much garbage is floating around in the ME right now ideologically.
a) I was asking about the Muslims who seek to and successfully emigrate to the United States. I am well aware that the theocratic Muslim nations have some pretty nasty things going on.
b) If you surveyed Christians, how many of them would say they wanted to implement some of the less savoury parts of Biblical law?
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
That survey shows you how much garbage is floating around in the ME right now ideologically.
a) I was asking about the Muslims who seek to and successfully emigrate to the United States.
b) If you surveyed Christians, how many of them would say they wanted to implement some of the less savoury parts of Biblical law?
Yeah but we already shit on christians for that, muslims get a free pass.
a) From who?
b) I can well imagine that in the United States the problems caused by Christian ideology are a lot more immediate and relevant to a lot of people than those caused by Muslim ideology.
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
[Citation needed]
Note that I am specifically not arguing about the policies of Saudi Arabia and the like - I am speaking of the general opinion among those people who choose to, and are allowed to, emigrate to the United States. Nor am I interested in isolated instances of Muslim bigotry, since I can find isolated instances of that in pretty much any population subset you choose to name.
Citation to what? Go look up what Sharia law is and how many countries adhere to it. This stuff is self-evident as far as I am concerned.
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
[Citation needed]
Note that I am specifically not arguing about the policies of Saudi Arabia and the like - I am speaking of the general opinion among those people who choose to, and are allowed to, emigrate to the United States. Nor am I interested in isolated instances of Muslim bigotry, since I can find isolated instances of that in pretty much any population subset you choose to name.
Citation to what? Go look up what Sharia law is and how many countries adhere to it. This stuff is self-evident as far as I am concerned.
...I'm specifically not asking about the views of the people who make the rules in theocratic Islamic countries, I'm asking about the views of the people who deliberately choose to emigrate to the United States.
On August 26 2016 10:16 Slaughter wrote: Next we will ban immigrants from Europe because their ideologies are too liberal and clash with our capitalist values.
What if we don't do that and just focus on the actual issue without creating a slippery slope?
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
Plz, I followed Milo for 2 year, my opinion of him is well known. Its not my fault you look up to an asshole.
Here is a story from a women Milo invited to attend the Republican national convention. She hates him, but he doesn't care. She went just to write about it.
He hangs out with Daryush Valizadeh, a man who believes rape should be legal and women are garbage. Milo has no problem with this man. A man who has literally admitted to raping women.
The list goes on. Milo is human garbage that puts on thin veneer so his fans can convince themselves he isn't garbage.
On August 26 2016 10:16 Slaughter wrote: Next we will ban immigrants from Europe because their ideologies are too liberal and clash with our capitalist values.
What if we don't do that and just focus on the actual issue without creating a slippery slope?
Out of curiousity which countries are defined as Muslim nations in this slippery slope. Presumably Turkey, your NATO ally and friend. What about Albania? Bosnia is only 51% Muslim, where is Bosnia on this totally not slippery slope. Macedonia at 33%?
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
You yourself called Milo an "asshole provocateur extraordinaire". You don't see why that would turn people off?
I don't see why it's unreasonable for people to dislike someone if the only way they can express themselves is by being a complete prick. As far as I'm concerned, even if you have a meaningful message, if people choose not to listen to it because you're just an asshole all the time, that's your own fault, not the fault of anyone else.
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
Okay well based on the things that he says and the things that he does and the things that he professes to believe I basically just think that he's pretty detestable all around. I don't feel threatened by this immunity, I don't even know what you mean by immunity in this case. What is it I'm meant to be trying to do to Milo that he is immune to? And why should I feel in any way subverted by his message?
Like your analysis was up there with flat earthers claiming that round earthers refuse to believe the truth because their minds are too small to handle how big the idea is. You can say that's what it is as much as you like but the truth is a far more prosaic "no, we just disagree with you".
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
Plz, I followed Milo for 2 year, my opinion of him is well known. Its not my fault you look up to an asshole.
Here is a story from a women Milo invited to attend the Republican national convention. She hates him, but he doesn't care. She went just to write about it.
He hangs out with Daryush Valizadeh, a man who believes rape should be legal and women are garbage. Milo has no problem with this man. A man who has literally admitted to raping women.
The list goes on. Milo is human garbage that puts on thin veneer so his fans can convince themselves he isn't garbage.
I actually think his immunity comes from the fact that he is gay. The left is confused about how to handle a gay dude who is belligerently anti-feminist
On August 26 2016 09:46 Hexe wrote: i love milo and a few others on that spectrum, why do some people find him a bully? hes not as good as ben shapiro i dont think. but i find these videos so entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTg6h4e3p4 cant believe how far our college systems have fallen when it comes to sharing and discovering new ideas.
Leftists can't stand Milo because he's immune to their typical slander tactics and presents a message that is highly subversive to leftist interests.
That must be it. Good analysis.
Feel free to give an intelligent criticism of Milo as opposed to the type of uninformed shit that Plansix spews all of the time.
Plz, I followed Milo for 2 year, my opinion of him is well known. Its not my fault you look up to an asshole.
Here is a story from a women Milo invited to attend the Republican national convention. She hates him, but he doesn't care. She went just to write about it.
He hangs out with Daryush Valizadeh, a man who believes rape should be legal and women are garbage. Milo has no problem with this man. A man who has literally admitted to raping women.
The list goes on. Milo is human garbage that puts on thin veneer so his fans can convince themselves he isn't garbage.
give some examples please, full context, chances are you dont have anything substantial. and dont post his what his fans do, what does milo do that is human garbage?
On August 26 2016 10:19 xDaunt wrote:... conservatives rightly perceive that Muslims get a free on these issues when the positions of most Muslims{EDIT: specifically, those who choose to immigrate to the US?} are 100x worse than anything that a conservative believes.
[Citation needed]
Note that I am specifically not arguing about the policies of Saudi Arabia and the like - I am speaking of the general opinion among those people who choose to, and are allowed to, emigrate to the United States. Nor am I interested in isolated instances of Muslim bigotry, since I can find isolated instances of that in pretty much any population subset you choose to name.
Citation to what? Go look up what Sharia law is and how many countries adhere to it. This stuff is self-evident as far as I am concerned.
...I'm specifically not asking about the views of the people who make the rules in theocratic Islamic countries, I'm asking about the views of the people who deliberately choose to emigrate to the United States.
I thought I had made that clear by now.
I'm not aware of any specific study as it pertains to the views of Muslims who emigrate to the US. Not many Muslims come here. However, there's plenty of studies on EU and UK Muslims, and they're quite revealing. Now, I would expect Muslims who come to the US to be more moderate than those across the pond if for no other reason than we don't treat our immigrants as poorly as Europeans do.
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