US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4795

On August 23 2016 01:23 xDaunt wrote:

And where exactly did I make either claim?

On August 22 2016 11:05 xDaunt wrote:
It doesn't take a genius to see that Hillary has health problems. She very clearly has suffered from some sort of cognitive disorder, though we can only speculate as to its nature and severity.

On August 23 2016 01:17 PassiveAce wrote:
The first female candidate for presidents strength and stamina is being questioned?
Color me shocked

On August 23 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:


I bet the Hillary-defense bots are also programmed to tell us that her poo doesn't stink. I just marvel at the lengths that people go to cover for her. What's particularly amusing in this instance is that people are insisting that she is in "excellent health" rather than conceding that she "has health problems, none of which affect her ability to be president."

Economic anxiety isn’t driving racial resentment. Racial resentment is driving economic anxiety

Much debate continues about whether support for Donald Trump has more to do with racial or economic anxiety. A key question in this debate — explored by Wonkblog’s Jeff Guo — is whether economic anxiety may actually cause racism. Guo shows, for example, that Americans who think the economy is getting worse currently score highest in racial resentment.

So which is the chicken and which is the egg? The evidence suggests that racial resentment is driving economic anxiety, not the other way around. [...]

Racial resentment was not related to whites’ perceptions of the economy in December 2007 after accounting for partisanship and ideology. When these same people were re-interviewed in July 2012, racial resentment was a powerful predictor of economic perceptions. Again, the greater someone’s level of racial resentment, the worse they believed the economy was doing.

Furthermore, additional analyses indicate that economic perceptions, whether measured in 2008 or even in 2012, did not cause people to change their underlying levels of racial resentment.

In fact, multiple studies, using several different surveys, have shown that overall levels of racial resentment were virtually unchanged by the economic crash of 2008. Some data even suggests that racial prejudice slightly declined during the height of economic collapse in the fall of 2008. The evidence is pretty clear, then, that economic concerns are not driving racial resentment in the Obama Era.

Of course, this doesn’t mean that economic anxiety has no influence on support for Trump. John Sides and I presented some preliminary evidence that economic insecurity was a factor in Trump’s rise.

Nor does it mean that racial resentment is the prime determinant of economic anxiety. It isn’t.

Nevertheless, in an era where racial attitudes have become increasingly associated with so many of the president’s positions, Obama’s race is largely responsible for the association between racial resentment and economic anxiety. And this racialized political environment undoubtedly aided Donald Trump’s rise to the top of the Republican Party.

On August 23 2016 01:22 KwarK wrote:

The accusation literally came from infowars. I don't know what you want at this point. Infowars is literally a conspiracy theory website, it only posts things which are conspiracy theories.

Not all evidence is equally valid. Infowars is not a sufficient rebuttal to the medical opinion of the doctor treating HRC.

Incidentally please respond to these fine pieces of journalism.
http://www.infowars.com/bernie-sanders-is-a-fraud/
http://www.infowars.com/bernie-sanders-the-socialist-dope/

On August 23 2016 01:50 GreenHorizons wrote:


Nothing I said was from info wars. They were my own observations, admittedly spurred by the more conspiracy angled story from infowars, but observing she's not in "excellent health" is something anyone with eyes can do.

The "medical opinion" of Hillary's health is in clear contrast to what I have observed, forget whatever infowars is spinning it as. She's not in excellent health and one doesn't need infowars to see it. Whether whatever health issues she's hiding would prevent her from fulfilling her duties I have no idea (though I doubt it), but her pattern of deception does indicate it's worse than she's pretending.

On August 23 2016 02:02 LegalLord wrote:
That time Hillary lost consciousness as SoS is cause for concern

On August 23 2016 01:57 Plansix wrote:


There, fixed that for you. Please avoid roping us into your own theories about Clinton's health when you know we disagree on your observations.

On August 23 2016 02:06 GreenHorizons wrote:


You can all observe that she almost always has a chair and that she frequently needs help up steps. You all can observe that's not exemplary of "excellent health". Though I suppose we could have (literally) blind posters who actually can't see it so there is that.

On August 23 2016 01:17 PassiveAce wrote:
The first female candidate for presidents strength and stamina is being questioned?
Color me shocked

On August 23 2016 01:28 Plansix wrote:

Soon we will be asking if she has the gravitas and ability to friendly and warm enough to deal with other world leaders. Why she doesn’t smile more when she speaks? Are pant-suits acceptable attire when visiting other nations? How can you be a good grandmother and president at the same time?

On August 23 2016 02:20 KwarK wrote:
Fortunately voters vote on the ticket of both president and replacement president so there is already a system in place to deal with any issue that prevents Hillary from her duties as president while still being democratic. And given Trump's call for her assassination I don't think anyone is ignoring whether Kaine is qualified to step in. This year, more than most, the whole ticket is important.

On August 23 2016 01:14 GreenHorizons wrote:


This comes from the fundamental misunderstanding of what people like me are about.

First the "conspiracy" line has been thrown out enough to render it meaningless as several times things excused as "conspiracy theory" were absolutely true.

Second, what I'm fighting for wasn't crushed, it outperformed every single person here's expectations.

Finally, what we're working toward hasn't stopped or even slowed down, we more than tripled the number of PCO's just in my surrounding districts, hundreds of people who previously weren't really engaged now taking and running for offices.

That there are so many "conservative" style Democrats clinging to an old corrupt and inadequate system because their preferred candidate mastered it's inner workings doesn't surprise me, that so many of them are on a forum like this, does surprise me some.

30 years from now it's not going to be the people who pushed to elect Hillary who will be running things, it will be the people who pushed for Bernie. Hillary and her supporters will be a pockmark on the history of the Democratic party. A signal that many Americans didn't want control of their government, that they willingly handed it over to corporate interests.

She put someone who thinks fracking doesn't harm the environment as the leader of her transition team, Hillary supporters are going to act surprised (or say she had to make that compromise) when she governs like a socially liberal Republican but it's quite literally what she's been showing anyone that cared to look.

The blinding irony for me is if it weren't Hillary, Republicans would be throwing a party for how right leaning the Democratic nominee is, the Democrats would be doing the same if Trump wasn't Trump.

On August 23 2016 02:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
If you want to talk about sexism then Clinton's perpetual play of the gender card is just as sexist than any of the stupid remarks Trump has made about public breastfeeding, Rosie, etc