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xDaunt
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Mohdoo
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TheTenthDoc
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Will his win be driven entirely by dumpstering Clinton, a woman whose face has ALSO been smeared across the media landscape for the better part of a decade and, just like Trump, also has everyone that will hate her already hate her? I mean, whose opinion is going to change come November? Is there a lot of room for late deciders between these two candidates? It's not like Trump has shown particular attack ad efficacy-his opponents have come undone by their own blunders as much as anything he's done, and who is waffling between Clinton and Trump that would be convinced by a Trump ad? I just don't get it. | ||
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LegalLord
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FiWiFaKi
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On May 04 2016 10:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Here's what baffles me about optimism for Trump's chances in the general: he's run a campaign on smearing his face across the media landscape for six months. People know about him. They've formed their opinion of him. Everyone that hates him today will hate him in November. Their minds are fixed thanks to his campaign strategy. Will his win be driven entirely by dumpstering Clinton, a woman whose face has ALSO been smeared across the media landscape for the better part of a decade and, just like Trump, also has everyone that will hate her already hate her? I mean, whose opinion is going to change come November? Is there a lot of room for late deciders between these two candidates? It's not like Trump has shown particular attack ad efficacy-his opponents have come undone by their own blunders as much as anything he's done, and who is waffling between Clinton and Trump that would be convinced by a Trump ad? I just don't get it. More time that Trump gets, the better he will do. As people spend more time on the Trump message, the more his ratings will go up. A lot of peoples opinions have been shaped based on a couple quotes taken out of context and reported in the media. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 04 2016 10:49 LegalLord wrote: Hillary and Trump have both already been smeared as much as they can go. I cannot imagine that there is any dirt on either candidate that could be released that has not already been released. The difference is that Hillary has quite a lot of important political alliances in place, and has developed a strong base of support for her specifically. I think that will matter a lot in the swing states. This election is not going to be decided by Hillary's strength. She is demonstrably weak, which should be obvious to everyone given Bernie's performance. | ||
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TheFish7
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On May 04 2016 10:53 xDaunt wrote: This election is not going to be decided by Hillary's strength. She is demonstrably weak, which should be obvious to everyone given Bernie's performance. No more than likely it's going to be decided if she can able to bring those independents/Sanders supporters which are women, and youth. They either go third party, stay home, or decide who they vote for. In which case it's anyone's game. | ||
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farvacola
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 04 2016 10:53 xDaunt wrote: This election is not going to be decided by Hillary's strength. She is demonstrably weak, which should be obvious to everyone given Bernie's performance. What selective reasoning. I can just as easily say this is all proof of Bernie being a strong candidate. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 04 2016 11:07 On_Slaught wrote: What selective reasoning. I can just as easily say this is all proof of Bernie being a strong candidate. If I wanted to be a dick I could say at a basic level Bernie and Trump are alike in that they are rhetoric with little substance but liberals tend to be more educated so they don't fall for it enough to actually have Bernie win his side  | ||
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Introvert
United States4659 Posts
On May 04 2016 11:17 Slaughter wrote: If I wanted to be a dick I could say at a basic level Bernie and Trump are alike in that they are rhetoric with little substance but liberals tend to be more educated so they don't fall for it enough to actually have win him Bernie won the young, educated vote. Or at least those in the higher education process. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 04 2016 11:19 Introvert wrote: Bernie won the young, educated vote. Or at least those in the higher education process. I would think it would be relatively easy for a really liberal to win that group as they still lack a lot of nuance and are still early on in their ideological development in regards to depth. | ||
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LegalLord
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pmh
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On May 04 2016 09:50 On_Slaught wrote: Well, the Republican party has made their choice and will reap what they sow, Trump victory or not. Sad day for America that one of the two parties has officially turned its back on critical thinking. As for the Dems, a Sanders victory tonight is unfortunate. Now Hillary has to take fire from both sides for months because the old man won't drop out. Though Trump's arguments to Sanders supporters to join him should be funny. He will pull quiet a few of them. Maybe that's why sanders stays in the race,to keep those people that support him tied to the democratic party as long as possible. He will probably endorse Clinton at one point in the future and then hope the supporters stay. Don't think sanders will ever be nominated,the democratic establishment seems to be firmly in control. Honestly think Clinton will get crushed,dont understand why people think she would be favorit in that race. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On May 04 2016 11:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Tomorrow's cover. I love it. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 04 2016 11:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Tomorrow's cover. Eh, it's way overstated. It's be more accurate showing the elephant getting a makeover. But whatever. Fuck the GOP. Those idiots are reaping what they sowed. | ||
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