US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3625

On April 18 2016 00:01 Gorsameth wrote:
Yeah I wouldn't call Obama a remarkable leader looking back, but I will say he could have been a remarkable and great leader if the other side did not make it their life goal to stick their heads in the sand for 8 years and hope the world would have ended by the time they got back out.

On April 17 2016 23:55 Sermokala wrote:
And you're such a good authority on this coming from france where I'm sure the media doesn't get anything lost in translation?

To say that Obama has been a remarkable leader is half the shit I blame you euros for. He doesn't lead on anything at all and thats been his problem from the health care reform days. that and him forgetting how to do speeches.

Backers of a 9/11 bill and family members of those lost in the attacks are urging the United States government to ignore economic threats from Saudi Arabia that aim to block the legislation, and are calling for the release of 28 pages of a Senate report that could shed light on the kingdom’s involvement in the terrorist plot.

“I think our first duty is to make sure the families and the loved ones that we lost on 9/11 receive justice and receive the truth,” said U.S. Rep. Stephen F. Lynch.

“I would say, release the 28 pages from investigation and pass the 9/11 act and let them recover in whatever way they can.”

Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir issued the warning to lawmakers last month that Saudi Arabia would sell up to $750 billion in U.S. assets if Congress passes a bill allowing families of victims of terrorist attacks to sue foreign governments, The New York Times reported yesterday.

The bipartisan bill, called the “Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act,” is co-sponsored by Democratic U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York and Texas U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, a Republican.

But the threats should not be a consideration in passing the bill, Lynch said, and lawmakers should not “be dissuaded from doing our duty.”

Lynch added that Saudi Arabia, fraught with threats against the royal family and the ongoing conflict in Yemen, “needs us more than we need them.”

“It sounds a little bit like extortion,” Lynch said.

“But I say let’s call their bluff.”

Lynch has consistently pushed to declassify 28 pages from the U.S. Senate report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that reportedly deal with Saudi Arabia’s role in the plot.

On April 18 2016 00:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Not to totally derail you here, but even I, as an unabashed liberal, absolutely cannot say that Obamacare was a "remarkable success". It does some things well but our healthcare system is still absolutely despicable.

On April 18 2016 00:07 Biff The Understudy wrote:

He's changed America completely by introducing the Obamacare, an absolutely remarkable success, has pulled a financial reform that we in Europe would only dream of, has had the country constantly creating jobs and doing economically better than most other major western nation, all of that fighting against a Republican party led by hysterical ideologues that care as little about the truth than about the welfare of the american people.

He has improved gigantically the image of the US abroad, which is kind of good considering how America was hated after 8 years of Bushism.

Well, I call that remarkable. Despite the right wing narrative that because he doesn't pull the macho crap that people seem to love that much, he is "weak".

On April 18 2016 00:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
The ACA should be considered a giant step just because of the pre existing conditions clause

More than six in 10 Republican voters believe that, if no GOP presidential candidate wins a majority of delegates before the convention, the one with the most votes should be the party's nominee, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

That's compared with 33 percent of Republicans who say the nominee instead should be the candidate whom convention delegates think would be the party's best standard-bearer.

These numbers come as it's possible that Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump won't secure a majority of delegates once primary voting concludes on June 7, despite having won more votes, states and delegates than his Republican rivals.

"I have millions of more votes than [Ted] Cruz, you know, if you add up the different primaries. Millions. And millions more than [John] Kasich," Trump said recently in Pittsburgh.

But Cruz counters that those millions more votes won't matter if Trump doesn't have a majority of delegates. "If we go to a contested convention where nobody has a majority, it will be the delegates who were elected by the people who make the final decision," he told NBC's Chuck Todd last Thursday at the MSNBC town hall in Buffalo, N.Y. "But [the delegates] have been elected by the voters in the first place, and this is a battle to earn the support of the American voters across the country."

The Republican National Committee says that the nominee is whomever secures a majority -- 1,237 -- of delegates at the Republican convention.

Asked about the poll result on NBC's Meet the Press Sunday, RNC head Reince Priebus noted that Trump has won a plurality - not a majority - of votes.

On April 18 2016 01:24 LegalLord wrote:

I wonder if you can skew opinion polls by asking a loaded question.

On April 18 2016 03:15 LegalLord wrote:

It is implicitly asking a question about a specific candidate because that's what will be inferred from context, and it makes a loaded assumption (that the majority don't want Trump and that they want someone else who is in the running).

You could also ask, "if no candidate receives the majority of votes and the candidate with the most votes is perceived to be a fascist, should someone else be nominated?" Not exactly the same, but it's also a claim that has been leveled against him, albeit stupidly.