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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 23:07:32
April 14 2016 23:04 GMT
#72161
On April 15 2016 07:59 Yoav wrote:
Can we all reflect for a moment on the indignity of the last remaining moderate Republican in the Senate's likely loss to a guy named "Tammy Duckworth?"

Tammy Duckworth is an Iraq War veteran and the first Asian American woman voted into Congress, with a stellar political career fighting for better funding for veteran's programs. You could not sound less informed if you tried.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 14 2016 23:05 GMT
#72162
shes a woman lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
April 14 2016 23:11 GMT
#72163
On April 15 2016 08:05 PassiveAce wrote:
shes a woman lol


Edited. Point stands.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 14 2016 23:13 GMT
#72164
yeah point stands, tammy is a really dumb name for a guy
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 23:19:00
April 14 2016 23:18 GMT
#72165
It's fun when someone's post displays self-answering recursive logic. How is it, Yoav asks, that a moderate Illinois Republican can stand to lose to someone with the name Tammy Duckworth? Well, it's because the Republican Party is populated with idiots who focus on the sound of someone's name instead of interacting with any of their substantive qualifications or policy perspectives. Wondrous stuff, isn't it?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 14 2016 23:25 GMT
#72166
whoa this thread is too hot for me bye
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2016 23:29 GMT
#72167
Embattled Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley (R) acknowledged Thursday that he once had his wallet delivered to him via state helicopter, reportedly after getting into a fight with his then-wife, because he needed money to eat.

AL.com and the local politics blog Yellowhammer News cited anonymous sources who said the retrieval mission was necessary because Bentley forgot the wallet when fleeing his Tuscaloosa home after fighting with the state's former first lady. Bentley has been wrapped up in scandal since a state employee he fired claimed to have proof that the governor had an affair with his top aide, Rebekah Mason, who has since resigned.

Bentley's acknowledgment came after AL.com confirmed that a helicopter belonging to the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency traveled for four hours on the day after Christmas in 2014, leaving Montgomery for Tuscaloosa before delivering Bentley's wallet to him in Gulf Shores.

Bentley said the helicopter delivery "looks bad," but insisted that he never requested that a helicopter be used, according to the news site. He said law enforcement opted for a helicopter because "they just got it to me as quickly as they could."

"I requested they deliver my wallet, I didn't know how they were going to do it. I did not request that a helicopter was used," Bentley said. "You have to have your wallet for security reasons. I'm the governor. And I had to have money. I had to buy something to eat. You have to have identification."

A group of legislators in the state House have started the motions to impeach Bentley, but the governor has said he won't step down. The state's Ethics Commission is investigating the validity of two complaints that question whether Bentley misused state property.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
April 14 2016 23:35 GMT
#72168
So much grump. Sorry for levity. Will take Duckworth jokes elsewhere.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 14 2016 23:39 GMT
#72169
On April 15 2016 08:04 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 07:59 Yoav wrote:
Can we all reflect for a moment on the indignity of the last remaining moderate Republican in the Senate's likely loss to a guy named "Tammy Duckworth?"

Tammy Duckworth is an Iraq War veteran and the first Asian American woman voted into Congress, with a stellar political career fighting for better funding for veteran's programs. You could not sound less informed if you tried.


She is a double amputee (as the result of war wounds) Iraq veteran. Her life story is pretty crazy, actually. I've met her and she is clearly the favorite over Kirk. IL is a blue state that happened to elect a Republican Gov. because of terrible incompetence and obvious cronyism by Dems for a decade, and elected Kirk because the Democrats ran a complete idiot who got smashed in the debates and was directly tied to the same people that got Rauner elected.

Kirk also was a workhorse when he won IL, but post-stroke hasn't shown the same energy. Duckworth, IMO is likely to be very much in the progressive wing of the Democratic caucus, similar to a Warren, Kennedy, etc.
Freeeeeeedom
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2016 23:44 GMT
#72170
On April 15 2016 08:25 PassiveAce wrote:
whoa this thread is too hot for me bye

This thread is very serious. But we are suffering from Trump Stumper PTSD.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
April 14 2016 23:46 GMT
#72171
I don't think we'll ever be the same after this election.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
April 14 2016 23:55 GMT
#72172
Y'all should check out the 2012 election thread. I think you'll find that we've all calmed down quite a bit since then lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 23:57:37
April 14 2016 23:55 GMT
#72173
i hope it was clear that i was only taking part in the fun, by extending the joke

also there seems to be a lull in the thread since the last "socialism leads to bolchevik genocide"-detour

i just watched an obama clip and am fascinated how he kept his oratory style in tact.. current (motion picture) media is all about soundbites, fanfare, and general trumpness, while he works that long winded, slow oration of an academic, with well presented pauses. all the other candidates look so unpresidential to me in comparison. even hillary, yeah she has some snark, a sharp wit (see benghazi hearing) and in general the right direction, but she (to me) tries too hard to be forceful and energizing (going with the times).

edit: @ farvacola, yeah somehow people got over the black president pretty fast.. have not seen "they are culturally inferior" in a long time in a political discussion on TL
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 15 2016 00:06 GMT
#72174
Twenty-seven marine biologists penned a letter to President Barack Obama on Thursday urgently asking him to defer seismic exploration in the Atlantic Ocean that could lead to the extinction of North Atlantic right whales.

Right whales are already one of the world’s most critically endangered whale species, two of the letter’s authors Douglas Nowacek and Andrew Read said in a Duke University statement. There are fewer than 500 whales, according to recent estimates. The decreasing number of right whales is “directly linked to the disproportionately high level of human activity” the letter said.

“This is an animal that has persisted through centuries of past whaling,” Howard Rosenbaum, one of the letter’s authors and the Wildlife Conservation Society’s Ocean Giants Program director, told The Huffington Post. The species “is no longer increasing in abundance and is declining in numbers. It also suffers from getting hit by ships and fishing gear entanglement. We also know that elevated noise levels in their environment cause stress.”

In addition to elevated stress levels, seismic surveys can “disrupt vital communication between mother and calf,” he added. The surveys are “adding yet another major stressor into their already-stressed environment.”

Seismic surveys are used to detect underwater fossil fuel deposits in order to map out future oil and gas extraction. Companies have applied to survey a 90,000-mile area off the East Coast, “running back and forth over the same area during the first year alone,” a Wildlife Conservation Society statement said.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
April 15 2016 00:17 GMT
#72175
On April 15 2016 08:55 farvacola wrote:
Y'all should check out the 2012 election thread. I think you'll find that we've all calmed down quite a bit since then lol


That was a different kind of emotion, though. It was an actual election. This election is an emotional roller coaster. 2012 was more like going to war.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
April 15 2016 00:17 GMT
#72176
Even in this thread we've calmed down a lot from the health care debate days. God those arguments went on for months and months at a time.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 15 2016 00:23 GMT
#72177
the number of unique posters following this thread is actually quite low, so everyone knows everyones position already quite well and most political problems have been talked about

now only watching the GOP failure cascade is left to do
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 00:28:41
April 15 2016 00:28 GMT
#72178
Universal daycare, paid family leave, minimum wage, universal healthcare, global warming, the environment, campaign finance, criminal justice reform, pharmaceutical prices etc. All are topics that are still being/up for debate.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
April 15 2016 00:28 GMT
#72179
On April 15 2016 09:23 puerk wrote:
the number of unique posters following this thread is actually quite low, so everyone knows everyones position already quite well and most political problems have been talked about

now only watching the GOP failure cascade is left to do


I think the prospect of New York is still hype on the left. Whoever loses NY loses the campaign. Sanders making a lot of really advantageous plays in New York is making me wonder if he can pull it off.
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
April 15 2016 00:28 GMT
#72180
On April 15 2016 02:04 Plansix wrote:
This is the same Verizon that the NYC almost had to sue because they didn't follow through on their agreement to provide Fios to the city because it started to cost real money. An agreement that scored them a lot of exclusive contracts and other perks, but they just stopped for some reason. I am willing to bet that they paid taxes, but I'm pretty sure its not the number the CEO is claiming either.

And I can't really feel bad for them if their wired division is shrinking when the US internet is so garbage. My home town has no high speed internet. None. You have to get satellite garbage. This is the same Verizon that still tries to charge us for any paper copy of bill, which is 100% not allowed in my state.

No reason to side with any national telecom in the US. They will bitch about this today and then push to have a law passed tomorrow banning cities from providing their own internet service tomorrow.


That's why I said this one. The CEO clarified some misrepresentation of facts by Sanders, that is a far cry from Verizon is infallible and can do no wrong. Sometimes I agree with labour in disputes.
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