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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 14 2016 06:30 GMT
#72121
Wow...Donald Trump is scum.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
April 14 2016 07:37 GMT
#72122
On April 14 2016 05:26 Naracs_Duc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 04:49 Simberto wrote:
I am constantly amazed by how much some conservatives care about other peoples genitals.

If i want to insert a 15-inch rubber horse cock into my anus, why does that matter to Ted Cruz? Controlling other peoples sex lives is a pretty weird fetish, and an actually dangerous one since it explicitly involves not getting consent of the other party involved.


Its about how literal that group or person takes the new testament right?


Pretty sure Jesus was pretty indifferent to the use of 15-inch rubber horse cocks. By any reading. Probably wouldn't have recommended making it the centerpoint of your existence, but other than that, who cares?
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 09:58:28
April 14 2016 09:52 GMT
#72123
Well not that I'm particularly defending the concept being your normal single guy but at least when I was growing up "Christian" teaching against masturbation is entirely based around the concept of lust. Which is definitely a biblical sin. There is modern literature that basically postulates if you could masturbate with a "pure mind" to relieve sexual tension it would in fact be a good thing but in most cases it has accompanying fantasies that are definitely sinful by biblical terms.

Again I'm your standard "sinful and fantasizing" guy but I'm just saying it's not as totally without base as you are making it out to be.

Edit: to clarify, personally I don't necessarily have a problem with people thinking it's wrong and you shouldn't do it, that's their prerogative. But you just can't make laws to force other people to your personal views. I mean it's same as gay marriage and other purely social issues. I really just think it's none of the governments business. Ofc ironically liberals also do this in other ways and they think it's fine for them to do it on their pet issues. Like most things both sides are retarded.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 11:29:54
April 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#72124
On April 14 2016 18:52 Atreides wrote:
Well not that I'm particularly defending the concept being your normal single guy but at least when I was growing up "Christian" teaching against masturbation is entirely based around the concept of lust. Which is definitely a biblical sin. There is modern literature that basically postulates if you could masturbate with a "pure mind" to relieve sexual tension it would in fact be a good thing but in most cases it has accompanying fantasies that are definitely sinful by biblical terms.

Again I'm your standard "sinful and fantasizing" guy but I'm just saying it's not as totally without base as you are making it out to be.

Edit: to clarify, personally I don't necessarily have a problem with people thinking it's wrong and you shouldn't do it, that's their prerogative. But you just can't make laws to force other people to your personal views. I mean it's same as gay marriage and other purely social issues. I really just think it's none of the governments business. Ofc ironically liberals also do this in other ways and they think it's fine for them to do it on their pet issues. Like most things both sides are retarded.

Sure, but at least liberals don't claim they want small government and people figure out their own shit. Liberal policies push towards big government that ensures everybody's liberties. Now you can disagree about what liberties should be protected, but the means, according to the left, is clearly through regulation.

This anti-dildo stance is particularly retarded not because we just disagree on whether using vibrators is should be forbidden or not, but because Ted Cruz spends most of his time yelling that government is too big and meddlesome. Apparently that only applies when the government is paying for medical bills (or tax collection). It's okay for the government to be meddlesome in the bedroom.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 14 2016 11:54 GMT
#72125
lol this bernie rally at washington sq park is so typical. white young and spoiled
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
April 14 2016 12:05 GMT
#72126
On April 14 2016 16:37 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 05:26 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On April 14 2016 04:49 Simberto wrote:
I am constantly amazed by how much some conservatives care about other peoples genitals.

If i want to insert a 15-inch rubber horse cock into my anus, why does that matter to Ted Cruz? Controlling other peoples sex lives is a pretty weird fetish, and an actually dangerous one since it explicitly involves not getting consent of the other party involved.


Its about how literal that group or person takes the new testament right?


Pretty sure Jesus was pretty indifferent to the use of 15-inch rubber horse cocks. By any reading. Probably wouldn't have recommended making it the centerpoint of your existence, but other than that, who cares?


15 INCH? I feel so inadequate.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
April 14 2016 12:25 GMT
#72127
Republican White House hopeful Ted Cruz said on Wednesday he is looking at who he might select as his vice presidential running mate should he become the party's presidential nominee, and that he thinks highly of former rival Marco Rubio.

Cruz, a U.S. senator from Texas, appeared on a CNN town hall with his wife, Heidi, and two daughters and showed a more personal side.

He trails front-runner Donald Trump in the race to get 1,237 delegates to seal the nomination, but he expressed confidence he can emerge as the winner if he can chip away at Trump's lead and force Republicans to pick their nominee at a contested convention in July.

Cruz said he and his team are looking at possible vice presidential running mates.

"We're in the process now of looking at a number of different options," said Cruz without mentioning names.

Asked about Rubio, Cruz called him an "amazing communicator" who inspired millions across the country in his presidential campaign.

"I consider Marco a friend," said Cruz, adding that "anyone would naturally look at Marco" for the No. 2 position on the Republican ticket.

Cruz and Rubio, a U.S. senator from Florida, engaged in bitter fights over illegal immigration during the campaign. Rubio was forced from the race after losing the Florida Republican primary on March 15. Cruz said they have now put those differences behind them.

The town hall included some exchanges that were aimed at showing what Cruz is like at home. Heidi Cruz said that shortly after they were married, her husband once brought home 100 cans of soup, a haul that was so big she took them back.

Asked if he had ever not followed his wife's advice, Cruz said he could not remember any examples, but Heidi Cruz had a ready response for him.

"Sometimes you don’t take out the trash when I ask you to," she said.

www.reuters.com
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 14 2016 13:43 GMT
#72128
I think Bernie is VERY smart to go yolo on this union strike thing. If he can be the undisputed champ for unions in New York, that could be pretty explosive. Imagine a bunch of unions endorsing Sanders this week. I think Bernie is making a play to win and I respect it. I'm not so sure it will work, as I really just expect Clinton to win anyway, but I predict Clinton winning by 7%. I think Bernie makes a massive upset no matter how you look at it. But unless he wins NY, this shit is so over.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 14 2016 13:46 GMT
#72129
a lot of these protesters or sandernistas in manhattan are just nyu kids paying 40k out of state lol. it's dumb as fuck
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 13:53:38
April 14 2016 13:51 GMT
#72130
last few weeks

"i want a debate"

"change ur tone"

"lol what tone"

proceeds to call clinton unqualified (sanders), murderer (sarandon) and a whore (song)

considering bill and hillary were responsible for getting his sister in law out of a north korean labor camp. maybe he just really dislikes his in laws. wonder if lisa ling made him sleep on the couch though
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 14 2016 13:52 GMT
#72131
as i've said at the beginning of this, the far left fringe is unhinged and cannot be trusted to run either a campaign or an administration.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 14:57:56
April 14 2016 14:51 GMT
#72132
On April 14 2016 22:52 oneofthem wrote:
as i've said at the beginning of this, the far left fringe is unhinged and cannot be trusted to run either a campaign or an administration.

While I ultimately agree, this verizon thing is pretty cut and dry. Profits skyrocketing and benefits decreasing? Absolutely not. That's bullshit. Bernie going ham on Verizon is such a welcome change. Imo, it highlights a key difference for me here. It would be improper for Clinton to do that, even if she agrees. I see the Sanders campaign as a statement that it makes no sense to pretend there aren't massive issues.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 14:58:52
April 14 2016 14:57 GMT
#72133
Oneofthem will tell you how a rising tide lifts all boats and how trickle down Reagonomics is the best thing since Adam Smith anyhow.

Paying a living wage is communism, protestors are unwashed layabouts, unions are the devil's anus. You know the drill.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 15:14:11
April 14 2016 15:11 GMT
#72134
yea no.

as far as verizon and the wire workers, it is monopoly vs union. a protest may highlight verizon unpopularity but effective change would involve more than giving these workers a bigger raise. it is a basic decline in wired service that is leading to some cuts

labor cost is pretty big as far as infrastructure underbuild goes.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12182 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 15:52:03
April 14 2016 15:50 GMT
#72135
On April 15 2016 00:11 oneofthem wrote:
yea no.

as far as verizon and the wire workers, it is monopoly vs union. a protest may highlight verizon unpopularity but effective change would involve more than giving these workers a bigger raise. it is a basic decline in wired service that is leading to some cuts

labor cost is pretty big as far as infrastructure underbuild goes.


Mobile traffic has a lot of requirements for infrastructure as well. Especially since it is being upgraded pretty often (10 year cycle) and thus some places can't just strap a new transmitter/receiver on a tower and be done with it. Not to the same degree as a wired service, on that I can agree though.

The constant climb in traffic volume also means infrastructure for it is a constant upgrade cycle. On top of that you have repairs and replacements. I can agree on a decline on the sellers/people setting things up at home though since the basic package is so easy to get working if no new wiring is needed.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 14 2016 16:02 GMT
#72136
I can understand the idea of wired service in decline. But profits are sharply increasing. If profits are sharply increasing, benefits should not be decreasing. I think Sanders is trying to push for our society not accepting such greed as ethical. We've always justified it as "business is business!", but I think that's baseless. The idea that we are entitled to get pissed off at demand more of corporations is a great thing. We are not subordinate to corporations. If we stand up, we always win.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 16:11:40
April 14 2016 16:02 GMT
#72137
they seem to have made those arguments in seeking transfer flexibility. i have not read about this in detail but basically the wired division is overstaffed and they want to convert some of the workers through retraining etc. this would make some people move though

there was a nyt piece on it and it claimed a median salary and benefits of 130000 which is pretty decent for a slow growth area
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 14 2016 16:23 GMT
#72138
Verizon CEO response to Bernie.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/13/sanders-says-verizon-in-a-given-year-has-not-paid-a-nickel-in-taxes-so-ceo-releases-inconvenient-numbers-in-scathing-response/
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
April 14 2016 16:51 GMT
#72139
Gotta side with Verizon on this one.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2016 17:04 GMT
#72140
This is the same Verizon that the NYC almost had to sue because they didn't follow through on their agreement to provide Fios to the city because it started to cost real money. An agreement that scored them a lot of exclusive contracts and other perks, but they just stopped for some reason. I am willing to bet that they paid taxes, but I'm pretty sure its not the number the CEO is claiming either.

And I can't really feel bad for them if their wired division is shrinking when the US internet is so garbage. My home town has no high speed internet. None. You have to get satellite garbage. This is the same Verizon that still tries to charge us for any paper copy of bill, which is 100% not allowed in my state.

No reason to side with any national telecom in the US. They will bitch about this today and then push to have a law passed tomorrow banning cities from providing their own internet service tomorrow.
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