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Verniy
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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JW_DTLA
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The better criticism his is willingness to lie freely. His speeches are fact check nightmares where every 5 minutes he says something demonstrably false. He also contradicts himself and runs back on policy positions on at a minimum a weekly basis. I want to see people going after him for his Trump Truths. Stuff he just says is true because it helps his sales pitch but is easily shown to be false. | ||
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m4ini
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On March 19 2016 12:12 JW_DTLA wrote: I think a lot of the criticisms about Trump are missing the mark. The racism thing will backlash because his white supporters will be feel like they are the victims (despite it being demonstrably true what with Trumps removal of blacks from his rallies and his anti-Mexican tirades). The better criticism his is willingness to lie freely. His speeches are fact check nightmares where every 5 minutes he says something demonstrably false. He also contradicts himself and runs back on policy positions on at a minimum a weekly basis. I want to see people going after him for his Trump Truths. Stuff he just says is true because it helps his sales pitch but is easily shown to be false. Nah he never lies or spreads false information. As we've seen over and over again here, it's that you miss the nuances in what he's saying. See the "he never incited violence", that turned into "he was right to incite violence", but somehow even then it was still argued that he didn't. It's twisted beyond belief. It makes me wonder if anti-intellectualism is actually THAT big in the US. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On March 19 2016 12:12 Mohdoo wrote: Are people actually trying to suggest that Trump is only capable of 4th grade speech? This whole idea of Trump being an idiot is getting old. He's a genius. A sick, twisted genius. Well, whether intentional or not, he does talk like a middle schooler. I'd agree his platform is genius, albeit in a fucked up way. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On March 19 2016 12:16 m4ini wrote: Nah he never lies or spreads false information. As we've seen over and over again here, it's that you miss the nuances in what he's saying. See the "he never incited violence", that turned into "he was right to incite violence", but somehow even then it was still argued that he didn't. It's twisted beyond belief. It makes me wonder if anti-intellectualism is actually THAT big in the US. Asked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” who he talks with consistently about foreign policy, Trump responded, “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things." Source. Yeah. I think it's fair to say we have a problem with anti-intellectualism in this country. Or maybe just thinking in general. I'm sure there's someone out there who found that statement persuasive, and if asked why he or she supports Donald Trump would respond with something absurd like "I'm a fan of Mr. Trump because he's said a lot of things." | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On March 19 2016 09:37 ticklishmusic wrote: that attitude was fucking awful its not the first time hes dodged a question for whatever reason he has like zero composure i dont take you seriously at all, because to do so would depress me tbh I think it was fine. I even like that attitude. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 19 2016 12:24 synapse wrote: Well, whether intentional or not, he does talk like a middle schooler. I'd agree his platform is genius, albeit in a fucked up way. Candidates have been adjusting their speech to cater to audiences through vocabulary and accent for a long time. Listen to a candidate speak in Texas and then listen to a candidate speak in Seattle. Two completely different people. Trump is a master at it. He is able to so effectively cater his message to his audience. Watching a GOP debate with 100% attention focused on how Trump maneuvers and speaks is a work of art. He is truly gifted at manipulation. The details regarding when he interrupts, when he attacks, when he raises his voice. It is all so incredibly well done. Edit: Getting off Trump's dick for a second, I can't believe Bernie is choosing not to speak to AIPAC. If you needed any more evidence that he's running this campaign for symbolic purposes, here ya go. This is about making a social movement, not going to the whitehouse. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 19 2016 12:47 Mohdoo wrote: Candidates have been adjusting their speech to cater to audiences through vocabulary and accent for a long time. Listen to a candidate speak in Texas and then listen to a candidate speak in Seattle. Two completely different people. Trump is a master at it. He is able to so effectively cater his message to his audience. Watching a GOP debate with 100% attention focused on how Trump maneuvers and speaks is a work of art. He is truly gifted at manipulation. The details regarding when he interrupts, when he attacks, when he raises his voice. It is all so incredibly well done. Edit: Getting off Trump's dick for a second, I can't believe Bernie is choosing not to speak to AIPAC. If you needed any more evidence that he's running this campaign for symbolic purposes, here ya go. This is about making a social movement, not going to the whitehouse. I think maybe you're giving him too much credit. | ||
Falling
Canada11486 Posts
If true, isn't that rather condescending to the general American public? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 19 2016 13:37 Falling wrote: If true, isn't that rather condescending to the general American public? It's not like America is really known for it's shining general education... | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 19 2016 13:37 Falling wrote: If true, isn't that rather condescending to the general American public? Well yeah, but to be fair the general American public deserves it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Just a friendly reminder, Bernie is not responsible for any of his millions of supporters. This falls directly on the shoulders of Donald Trump | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Trump sides with the police. And the police side with him. It's truly beautiful. They go down there, get one look at Bernie supporters and are like, "nope.jpg". After Chicago 90% of their police force supported Trump. "Trump incites violence" -> They go to his rallies and start shit every single time. Blocking ambulances and roads? Really? People who just want to get on with their day don't give a shit about your activism. It's just too obvious. The cops saw what they needed to see. They saw a bunch of rabid Bernie supporters acting like indignant children because they don't get to silence a voice. Something they are very used to in the places they can censor. If they can censor, they will. It's just their way. Trump's motto is pretty much, "if you get hit, hit back." Anyone looking to censor free speech disgusts me regardless of how it hurts your feelings. An excellent listen that should be stickied in SandersForPresident. Thousands of assassination comments on twitter and facebook, "lul it's because trump incites it". No. No one made you type that shit. You're personally responsible and only you. If I go to jail in my lifetime, I don't get to blame my parents, I don't get to blame society. I have only myself to blame. I hope that guy who rushed the stage is still getting charged. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
And for all of those making fun of Trump's comments, let's not forget how much of a master wordsmith our previous president was. In other words, I highly doubt anyone gives a shit. In case y'all still haven't figured it out, content doesn't matter. What the listener feels does. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
I hate that these things don't have volume control. Warning etc. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 19 2016 14:31 xDaunt wrote: Time to pepper spray some hippies. Whoa, that would be police brutality, and Trump would have another thing to answer for... | ||
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