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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 19 2016 05:40 GMT
#67981
Bernie may not have won the presidency, but at least he spurred some violent protests. Good job.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 05:56:01
March 19 2016 05:54 GMT
#67982
On March 19 2016 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:


Just a friendly reminder, Bernie is not responsible for any of his millions of supporters. This falls directly on the shoulders of Donald Trump


I mean, I could be wrong, but last I heard Sanders did specifically say that he discouraged any violence and disowned all violent protesters (I believe there was a "this is not what my campaign is about"). And as far as I know he's not paying any legal fees. In my book that puts him in a better place than Trump and I'm not sure how people could actually think otherwise.

Unless they think that's being a pansy or something.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 05:56:02
March 19 2016 05:55 GMT
#67983
On March 19 2016 14:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/711020105887383552

Just a friendly reminder, Bernie is not responsible for any of his millions of supporters. This falls directly on the shoulders of Donald Trump


I mean, I could be wrong, but last I heard Sanders did specifically say that he discouraged any violence and disowned all violent protesters (I believe there was a "this is not what my campaign is about"). And as far as I know he's not paying any legal fees. In my book that puts him in a better place than Trump and I'm not sure how people could actually think otherwise.




Kind reminder that Bernie Sanders has the moral high ground here. Trump does not. That's why Trump is getting blamed for all of this violence.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 05:59:11
March 19 2016 05:56 GMT
#67984
On March 19 2016 14:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 14:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 19 2016 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/711020105887383552

Just a friendly reminder, Bernie is not responsible for any of his millions of supporters. This falls directly on the shoulders of Donald Trump


I mean, I could be wrong, but last I heard Sanders did specifically say that he discouraged any violence and disowned all violent protesters (I believe there was a "this is not what my campaign is about"). And as far as I know he's not paying any legal fees. In my book that puts him in a better place than Trump and I'm not sure how people could actually think otherwise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaE3TZb5dgM

Kind reminder that Bernie Sanders has the moral high ground here. Trump does not. That's why Trump is getting blamed for all of this violence.


You realize that Sanders is saying that after going on TV and twitter and saying what he wants Trump to say right?

Or are you completely oblivious here and think that taking responsibility = discouraging your supporters from violence

Edit: Specifically saying that violence should not be part of the political process
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 19 2016 06:02 GMT
#67985
On March 19 2016 14:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 14:55 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 19 2016 14:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 19 2016 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/711020105887383552

Just a friendly reminder, Bernie is not responsible for any of his millions of supporters. This falls directly on the shoulders of Donald Trump


I mean, I could be wrong, but last I heard Sanders did specifically say that he discouraged any violence and disowned all violent protesters (I believe there was a "this is not what my campaign is about"). And as far as I know he's not paying any legal fees. In my book that puts him in a better place than Trump and I'm not sure how people could actually think otherwise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaE3TZb5dgM

Kind reminder that Bernie Sanders has the moral high ground here. Trump does not. That's why Trump is getting blamed for all of this violence.


You realize that Sanders is saying that after going on TV and twitter and saying what he wants Trump to say right?

Or are you completely oblivious here and think that taking responsibility = discouraging your supporters from violence

Edit: Specifically saying that violence should not be part of the political process


I agree, and thankfully despite the agitation from protesters, the violence has been kept fairly minimal. Considering the size of Trump rallies, there's been less violence than your typical concert.
liftlift > tsm
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 19 2016 06:02 GMT
#67986
Honest question: Why are people protesting a Trump rally? Why are they willing to get violent? Get a fucking job and find a better way to spend your time.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 06:07:45
March 19 2016 06:07 GMT
#67987
On March 19 2016 15:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Honest question: Why are people protesting a Trump rally? Why are they willing to get violent? Get a fucking job and find a better way to spend your time.


-College kids+weekends+booze

Judging by that twitter video anyway. And the ones like that ex-child actor who charged Trump on stage are probably driven by thirst for media exposure.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 07:22:49
March 19 2016 06:16 GMT
#67988
"Charged the stage for attention"
Charging into the secret service? They'd have every right to kill the man on the spot.

Meanwhile (from the last twitters).
"MSM Blackout: Ongoing: Violent Protestors attack Secret Service, Tear down Security Perimeter at Donald J Trump Rally, Exit Surrounded...CNN Live Cuts Away Feed, Fox News Ignoring..."


Cops: THIS IS A PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY
Animals: "SOME STRANGE ARCHAIC CHANT"
Another police department that is going to vote 90% Trump.
+ Show Spoiler +


User was temp banned for this post.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 19 2016 06:24 GMT
#67989
Exits blocked? Shoot these fucking children

User was temp banned for this post.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 19 2016 06:35 GMT
#67990
Yeah, if you guys could avoid advocating for the murder of protesters, that'd be great.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14056 Posts
March 19 2016 06:40 GMT
#67991
On March 19 2016 15:35 kwizach wrote:
Yeah, if you guys could avoid advocating for the murder of protesters, that'd be great.

I mean god damm guys. Theres one thing to try and blame someone other then drumpf for these protest and then that.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 07:05:42
March 19 2016 07:04 GMT
#67992
With the way Trump is driving the narrative of the campaign the protesters are really just playing into his hands. If you are that worried about Trump then ignore him and help out whatever candidate you support.

I don't mind it they are really that into the process do they do a protest....but if you want to not look bad then make it peaceful and more positive. Becoming belligerent and involved with violence kinda rekts the image of your protest. Side note: Why do people always think protesters have no jobs? Especially at a 1 time event like a Trump rally at the most you take a day off (not even if you are in the area...just go after work). You can still have a job and protest shit.
Never Knows Best.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23514 Posts
March 19 2016 07:39 GMT
#67993
On March 19 2016 15:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Exits blocked? Shoot these fucking children


Yeah... people wonder why there are protests...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 19 2016 07:41 GMT
#67994
On March 19 2016 15:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Honest question: Why are people protesting a Trump rally? Why are they willing to get violent? Get a fucking job and find a better way to spend your time.

Because its an easy way to get media, and if you do it in the right city you have 0% chance of being prosecuted. Its basically the same as being on a reality show, except its the NYT, Chicago Trib, and WAPO shilling for you instead of ABC/CBS. For example, there has been a trump protester making the rounds on local TV in Chicago Jedidiah Brown. He is basically on video committing a misdemeanor, and repeatedly has admitted to it on video. Not charged. In fact, leaks have it that Rahm ordered no charges for protesters without firearms.

On March 19 2016 15:35 kwizach wrote:
Yeah, if you guys could avoid advocating for the murder of protesters, that'd be great.

I agree, but the reality is that SS has an incredibly hard job with Trump security, and IMO if the things going on around Trump happened around Obama (candidate) there already would be a SS-related fatality.

On March 19 2016 16:04 Slaughter wrote:
With the way Trump is driving the narrative of the campaign the protesters are really just playing into his hands. If you are that worried about Trump then ignore him and help out whatever candidate you support.

Yes, arguably the best thing for the Trump campaign is the vitriolic response to him.

On March 19 2016 16:04 Slaughter wrote:
I don't mind it they are really that into the process do they do a protest....but if you want to not look bad then make it peaceful and more positive. Becoming belligerent and involved with violence kinda rekts the image of your protest. Side note: Why do people always think protesters have no jobs? Especially at a 1 time event like a Trump rally at the most you take a day off (not even if you are in the area...just go after work). You can still have a job and protest shit.

Because protesters usually have chants like "Hey hey ho ho ______" or "What do we want __, when do we want it ____"
The modern mass protest usually has some sort of idiotic slogan or violence associated with it, so people assume that it consists of people of mild intelligence (probably not wrong). Plus, protesters usually protest things that are "meh" for the average person so they say, "LOL college students" etc.

The reality is that effective protesting consists of people acting better than an average person, like thousands wearing formal ware in front of the White House during a blizzard, or something similar. Protests are pre-judged (mostly correctly) by the majority as selfish in nature because they are something most people wouldn't do for no reason, and because the most typical cause of a protest a person encounters is a teachers' (or other public sector) union protesting for wages.
Freeeeeeedom
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 19 2016 07:48 GMT
#67995
On March 19 2016 16:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 15:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Exits blocked? Shoot these fucking children


Yeah... people wonder why there are protests...

Regardless of why the protest exists, they are being labeled idiot savages and their message is not being heard. I don't have a clue why they are protesting besides "I hate trump"
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 19 2016 08:03 GMT
#67996
...idiots.

Violently protesting at a Trump rally is just going to incite more support for Trump.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 08:34:15
March 19 2016 08:17 GMT
#67997
Don't worry, Bernie's non-violent.

Surely his "inspiring" rhetoric against the rich boogeymen ruining the country isn't inciting people to do anything...
+ Show Spoiler +
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KOKs3lCdGp8/maxresdefault.jpg

At least this one has the peace symbol instead of a closed fist.
[image loading]


Call it a revolution.. and anything can become justified. A shame millions voted for him, and he can't be held responsible for the actions of a few.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 08:43:19
March 19 2016 08:40 GMT
#67998
bart twitter guy goes ham

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/us/bart-talks-back-agencys-twitter-account-responds-to-user-complaints.html


For commuters in the San Francisco area, the announcement of delays Wednesday on the Bay Area Rapid Transit network from the struggling system’s Twitter account was no surprise.

“We’ve come to expect rush-hour equipment problems and train delays from you,” one rider tweeted. “What you’re saying is that today ends with -day.”

Then, in an unusual move for an account belonging to a government institution, BART tweeted back, describing the system’s struggles with extreme candor. It seemed like a peek behind the institutional curtain, but the tweets were online for all to see.


The account responded promptly to users, explaining that the system was operating far beyond its capacity, that a significant amount of rail had to be replaced and that the windows of time available to conduct track maintenance simply were not long enough to be effective.


Some Twitter users applauded the frank approach, while others parodied the responses.



The person behind the tweets was Taylor Huckaby, 27, who has been a spokesman for BART for a little over a year. Mr. Huckaby is a relative newcomer to the Bay Area — he’s originally from Arlington, Tex. — but in an interview Thursday he talked confidently about the area’s problems and residents’ political attitudes.

“The Bay Area is historically characterized as the most liberal place in the United States,” he said, “but there’s an antigovernment sentiment, that government can do no right, that government is broken, that government doesn’t answer to anybody, is unaccountable and doesn’t care.”

Only about 10 percent of Bay Area commuters use public transportation, a testament to the system’s dysfunction. The San Francisco Chronicle reported this month that some of the system’s transit cars were being “mysteriously knocked out of service,” requiring it to run shorter trains.


More than 450,000 commuters rely on BART weekly, and the system has projected that it needs $9.6 billion over the next 10 years to fully fund its planned improvement program.

Mr. Huckaby showed a familiarity with the details of BART’s needs in his tweets.


His philosophical approach to social media runs counter to that of most government agencies, which he said use Twitter as a bullhorn.

“With the political climate, there’s a lot of focus right now on America’s crumbling infrastructure — why are our tax dollars not getting us anything; where’s our return on investment?” he said, explaining why he thought it was important for government to be responsive online.

Mr. Huckaby, who is pursuing a master’s degree in public transit administration at San Jose State University, worked as an undergraduate as the new-media director for the re-election campaign of Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.

But he said he lost his faith in the conservative cause after an argument with his supervisors in the campaign over a tax cut made him question his political orientation. He became a registered Democrat and grew to be passionate about infrastructure spending.


Mr. Huckaby said that he was not nervous about tweeting frankly from BART’s official account, describing the tone of the tweets as perfectly in line with discussions among his colleagues. He expressed admiration for his bosses, whom he called “fantastic and supportive,” and said they had faith in his understanding of his role. He has not been reprimanded.

“Most government social media folks are not really given the leeway to respond to people in a way that’s authentic,” he said. “They give the canned response, the ‘we’re sorrys,’ the automation.”

“They’re afraid of looking incompetent by saying the wrong thing, so they end up saying nothing, which ironically leaves them looking incompetent anyway.”


tho i think the reason for the low public transit usage % in the bay area is cuz te whole place is built around havin a car unless u only wanna go to urban areas pretty much
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 09:38:16
March 19 2016 09:37 GMT
#67999
On March 19 2016 17:17 SK.Testie wrote:
Don't worry, Bernie's non-violent.

Surely his "inspiring" rhetoric against the rich boogeymen ruining the country isn't inciting people to do anything...
+ Show Spoiler +
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KOKs3lCdGp8/maxresdefault.jpg

At least this one has the peace symbol instead of a closed fist.
[image loading]


Call it a revolution.. and anything can become justified. A shame millions voted for him, and he can't be held responsible for the actions of a few.

What an odd post. IDK if English is a second language for you or something, but revolutions don't have to be violent.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 19 2016 09:41 GMT
#68000
On March 19 2016 18:37 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 17:17 SK.Testie wrote:
Don't worry, Bernie's non-violent.

Surely his "inspiring" rhetoric against the rich boogeymen ruining the country isn't inciting people to do anything...
+ Show Spoiler +
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KOKs3lCdGp8/maxresdefault.jpg

At least this one has the peace symbol instead of a closed fist.
[image loading]


Call it a revolution.. and anything can become justified. A shame millions voted for him, and he can't be held responsible for the actions of a few.

What an odd post. IDK if English is a second language for you or something, but revolutions don't have to be violent.

I'm pretty sure Testie has gotten bored with life, so lately he's taken to seeing how ridiculous he can be in this thread.
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