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For February IIRC Bernie was 20/35 raised/spent with 15M cash and Hillary was 15/20 with 33M cash. Reporting deadline is the 20th on each month, the next set should be interesting to see
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
FEC website -> presidential filings For February IIRC Bernie was 20/35 raised/spent with 15M cash and Hillary was 15/20 with 33M cash. Reporting deadline is the 20th on each month, the next set should be interesting to see | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On March 16 2016 05:37 SK.Testie wrote: It's not preconceived. It's from just living life listening to them for the last 15 years. You can literally tell when they go on the news and when they are openly lying. There's a long list of lies in the attacks on Trump and the really genuine set-up to paint him as something he's not very often. The people voting for him are the ones seeing through that. The honesty angle comes from his base. Which are hyper informed reactionaries that believe capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've got so far. He speaks his mind, he doesn't talk like other politicians, he's talked about issues they are simply too afraid to even admit, let alone tackle. Where does the honesty angle comes from? Because they see him as speaking a lot of truth and then they see that truth misrepresented and distorted by the media. So they rally even closer to him. There's some really choice examples that are really great for this. As soon as way too many people compared him to Hitler, those people lost the publics trust and that trust was thrown more into Trump. ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUqZoumWsAAnupz.jpg) What is the long list of lies the media is telling about Trump? Most of what I have seen are direct quotes or clips from his rallies, where you can see he is an agitator who can barely string a sentence together. Plenty of people see him speaking the truth but the problem is they are seeing it wrong. The man is a liar. It has been proven over and over again. | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:14 ZasZ. wrote: What is the long list of lies the media is telling about Trump? Most of what I have seen are direct quotes or clips from his rallies, where you can see he is an agitator who can barely string a sentence together. Plenty of people see him speaking the truth but the problem is they are seeing it wrong. The man is a liar. It has been proven over and over again. He said that he wants to deport all illegal immigrants, they say that Trump is racist vs Mexicans. He says that "blood was coming at her w/e" which could mean w/e, they say that Trump is sexist. He says that we should not let in refugees until we figure out wtf is going in Middle East which the previous leaders have destabilized then the media says that he is a racist again. The man is not a liar no matter how much you want it to happen because you have nefarious interests in going against Trump. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Countless examples man. Do you want me to go through them all? "Donald sucks at business, he declared bankruptcy 4 times! LOL" No. He filed Chapter 11 on 4 different businesses he ran. http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/trump-biggest-media-lies/2015/07/25/id/658877/ http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/the_media_needs_to_stop_telling_this_lie_about_donald_trump_im_a_sanders_supporter_and_value_honesty/ It's bad when even Salon, which seriously hates Trump has to call him out on the "Mexicans are rapists" lie. The media made that controversy. Not Trump. He told the truth on an unsettling and hard to talk about issue. He did it bluntly and without tact, sure. But he did it. They've misconstrued almost everything he has ever said by taking soundbites and what not, and not his full explanations. They are literally trying to get him assassinated. I would say that what happened Chicago is 0% his fault but they constantly tried to pin it on him. What was it? A complete lack of maturity from that voter base. I was really happy when Trump didn't go to Chicago. Both major gangs in Chicago had made countless threats of violence towards him and a lot more violence happened there than just "5 arrests". The police were told to actively not arrest people. The media actually wants someone from the public to assassinate him. When CNN put that creep on who rushed the stage and gave him a voice as if he didn't just try to kill a man? Beyond disgusting. Journalism proved it was dead right there. "You're saying things we don't like!! We'll try to interrupt you and silence you." So many assassination threats have become mainstream, and so many of them think it's ok because it's Trump. No, it's not ok. So yes, Trump lies when he talks to Evangelicals, or has to pander to specific parts of the Republican base. But I think he's honest about what he sees are bad trade deals and jobs. I do not see him as a sociopathic liar. I see Ted Cruz as one. Hillary has always been a career politician as well. And I simply think Bernies utopia doesn't mesh with actual reality at this point in time. Maybe in the future, but not at this point in time. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Really, I find the entire whining about silencing Trump to be hilarious. Pretty much any criticism of him is unfair, media bashing, including when he tells his supporters he liked it when protesters left on a stretcher. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:07 Kipsate wrote: In Netherlands we have the the PVV but honestly The drama The "extreme" views The Donald The anti-establishment canidates The money The merchandise The american flags being waved everywhere. There is even a race on a state per state basis so you can gradually see how the competition unfolds. American politics hella entertaining compared to Dutch ones, we are too nice and don't have enough cash to throw around. Don't forget that Wilders is an ethnic asian who can't accept his ethnic curly dark hair. Don't forget that Wilders dropped out of college, never had a real job and is only in politics because that is all he can do. Outside of poltics, he was a loser. Don't forget that Wilders isn't only funded by doners. he is funded completely by foreign donors. Imagine if Trump was runing vs a candidate that was bankrolled by China or Saudi Arabia. Don't forget that Wilders is one of the longest sitting senators and has been working in the senate since 1990, yet he still brands himself as an outsider. Trump is actually an outsider. What did Wilders do most of that time? Take orders like the clerk his talent dictates he is. Don't doubt that if Trump and Wilders would ever meet, Wilders would be on his knees in seconds. Wilders is a beta, a follower. Trump turned a true pitbull like Christie into a submissive puppy in like a day. Imagine what he would do to Wilders. Yes, Trump is a bigot and an egomaniac. Yes, he got his father's money. But at least he did something. He ran huge businesses. During all that time Wilders was just working as a photo copyist or hiding away in his bunker. | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:36 Plansix wrote: Except for the part where he lies all the time. Gonna trust SK.Testie more than you buddy. | ||
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oBlade
United States6290 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:36 Plansix wrote: Except for the part where he lies all the time. Really, I find the entire whining about silencing Trump to be hilarious. Pretty much any criticism of him is unfair, media bashing, including when he tells his supporters he liked it when protesters left on a stretcher. Did Testie not just say "I think Trump's most definitely lying for political gain, but they all are proven liars by now. All of them." or why have you gone in a circle? | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
But I find it amusing to see Trump supporters incensed over the comparison. TL.net is better moderated than other sites and Hitler references outside of iPlay.Nettles are uncommon here relative to other message boards where politics are discussed. But I must say, after 8 years of hearing here (somewhat) and elsewhere (a lot) about "Liberal Fascism" and convoluted explanations for how Hitler was actually a liberal and how Obama supporters like unions and ACORN are jack booted thugs and how Jews guns were taken and that was how the Holocaust happened and Obama is trying to do that here and on and on with the crazed equivalencies peddled by many on the right, it tastes soooo sweet to hear the outrage over Trump/Hitler analogies. At least with Trump we have actual rallies, with actual hand-raised pledging, with actual (if mild by comparison) violence and incitement to violence. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:38 ErectedZenith wrote: Gonna trust SK.Testie more than you buddy. I would expect nothing more for you, really. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
The media made him, yet you people blame the media? For what? There's dozens of people richer than Trump who we have never heard of. He likes the spotlight. He even acted out his personae in a reality soap. Come on. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24121 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1458069128762.png) Dozens of reports about this. When anonymous hacks your voicemails, but all they find is people that like you  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trumps-voicemails-hacked-by-anonymous-a6913861.html + Show Spoiler + https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdmbzECWIAEPqNa.jpg | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
That is insane. The general is going to be such a cluster. Time to get ready!   | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22451 Posts
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:38 ErectedZenith wrote: Gonna trust SK.Testie more than you buddy. Liquid'Drone put up the link on the last page. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/trump-fact-check-errors-exaggerations-falsehoods-213730#_ga=1.9616181.163558985.1391020600 Trump can't go two days in a row without contradicting the last thing he said. All his numbers claims are wrong. And he relies on easily disproven information from chain emails. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:51 frazzle wrote: That is insane. The general is going to be such a cluster. Time to get ready! We're knee deep in shit already. We think it smells bad, but it's nothing compared to neck deep. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2016 06:57 ticklishmusic wrote: We're knee deep in shit already. We think it smells bad, but it's nothing compared to neck deep. And anything its shows the influence of the media and that they provided him with free air time in exchange for views. It blows illusion that they are trying to provided even, balanced coverage. Because they are not. | ||
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