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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 02 2016 03:31 GMT
#56441
nate silvers thoughts on democrat primary

My view before tonight was that Bernie Sanders’s campaign was in trouble if he lost Iowa to Hillary Clinton. But what if Sanders loses and the final margin separating the candidates is just 1 percentage point or so, as the current vote count has it now?

That could matter for Sanders, to the extent that it changes the spin coming out of the event. The media may bill the race as essentially having been a tie, especially if the state isn’t officially called for either candidate for another hour or two. And considering how far ahead Sanders is in New Hampshire, the scoreboard could begin to look pretty good for him after two weeks.

And yet: There was not yet any proof in tonight’s results that Sanders can expand his performance beyond his base of white and liberal voters, which are plentiful in Iowa and New Hampshire but less so elsewhere. Instead, Sanders’s supporters seem to have been exactly who we thought they were. Sanders did really well among “very liberal” voters and extraordinarily well among young voters, but not very well among moderates, women or older voters.

So, overall, a 1- or 2-point loss for Sanders might wind up being something of a wash. But if he pulls ahead of Clinton here at the end, that’s a different story, of course.
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
February 02 2016 03:31 GMT
#56442
So which vanity candidates apart from O'Malley drop out tonight? I know Carson really wants to resume that book tour that got interrupted by a better than expected showing in the campaign :D
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 02 2016 03:32 GMT
#56443
On February 02 2016 12:31 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
nate silvers thoughts on democrat primary

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My view before tonight was that Bernie Sanders’s campaign was in trouble if he lost Iowa to Hillary Clinton. But what if Sanders loses and the final margin separating the candidates is just 1 percentage point or so, as the current vote count has it now?

That could matter for Sanders, to the extent that it changes the spin coming out of the event. The media may bill the race as essentially having been a tie, especially if the state isn’t officially called for either candidate for another hour or two. And considering how far ahead Sanders is in New Hampshire, the scoreboard could begin to look pretty good for him after two weeks.

And yet: There was not yet any proof in tonight’s results that Sanders can expand his performance beyond his base of white and liberal voters, which are plentiful in Iowa and New Hampshire but less so elsewhere. Instead, Sanders’s supporters seem to have been exactly who we thought they were. Sanders did really well among “very liberal” voters and extraordinarily well among young voters, but not very well among moderates, women or older voters.

So, overall, a 1- or 2-point loss for Sanders might wind up being something of a wash. But if he pulls ahead of Clinton here at the end, that’s a different story, of course.


damnit you, beat me to it

tonight has been astoundingly entertaining as far as sitting at a computer watching numbers change goes
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 02 2016 03:33 GMT
#56444
out of whos left no idea. huackabee just dropped out
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
February 02 2016 03:33 GMT
#56445
holy schneikies that dem race :o
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 02 2016 03:34 GMT
#56446
On February 02 2016 12:31 frazzle wrote:
So which vanity candidates apart from O'Malley drop out tonight? I know Carson really wants to resume that book tour that got interrupted by a better than expected showing in the campaign :D


Huckabee dropped out a few minutes ago.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:35:15
February 02 2016 03:34 GMT
#56447
bernie crushing facebook which I guess is good for him in the long term (although considering facebook is probably primarily used by young people prob shouldn't be too surprising). from cnn

Facebook data

Facebook conversation in Iowa from midnight CST to 9 p.m.

Top candidates:

Bernie Sanders 42.2%

Donald Trump 22.4%

Hillary Clinton 12.4%

Ted Cruz 11.5%

Rand Paul 4.5%

Ben Carson 2.2%

Marco Rubio 1.8%



Democrats

Bernie Sanders 75%

Hillary Clinton 24%

Martin O’Malley 1%

Republicans

Donald Trump 50%

Ted Cruz 25%

Rand Paul 10%

Ben Carson 5%

Marco Rubio 4%
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23759 Posts
February 02 2016 03:35 GMT
#56448
Some people have been at the caucus for over 3 hours now, anyone still there is damn committed.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 02 2016 03:35 GMT
#56449
down to .6 boys
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:41:41
February 02 2016 03:36 GMT
#56450
OMG that Rubio 'victory' speech (smh)
Edit: He thanked God for getting 3rd, WTF
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#56451
Actually, a tie is terrible for Sanders:


two obstacles in this theory's way: demographics and delegate arithmetic.

In poll after poll, Sanders's best group within the Democratic Party is liberal whites. Unfortunately for Sanders, Iowa and New Hampshire couldn't be much further on the extreme end of the party's demographic or ideological spectrum. According to our estimates, based on past exit polls and Census data, there is only one state where whites who self-identify as liberals make up a higher share of the Democratic primary electorate than Iowa and New Hampshire.

You guessed it: Vermont.

In fact, 98 percent of pledged Democratic delegates will come from states with lower shares of liberal whites than Iowa and New Hampshire. Just 447 of 4,051 pledged Democratic delegates - 11 percent - are tied to results in states or districts with higher shares of college-educated whites than New Hampshire. Moreover, just 13 percent of pledged Democratic delegates will be awarded in caucus states like Iowa, which as 2008 proved, tend to bring out more liberal participants than primaries.

In other words, if Sanders prevails narrowly in Iowa or New Hampshire, his support among liberal whites and in college towns - essentially Portlandia - would be entirely consistent with a scenario in which he also gets clobbered by Clinton nationally.

As Cook National Editor Amy Walter wrote last week, this race will come down to whether Sanders is Howard Dean or Barack Obama. While Dean fizzled in Iowa, Obama's Iowa win solidified his burgeoning popularity among white liberals but also legitimized his candidacy in the eyes of many previously skeptical African-American voters. But so far, there are few hints of a Sanders "expansion" constituency beyond liberal whites.

There's another gigantic Sanders math problem the Post failed to mention: thanks to Clinton's early dominance of superdelegates, he effectively begins the race eight points behind in the delegate count, before any votes are even cast.

Unlike on the GOP side, 713 of Democrats' 4,764 convention delegates (15 percent) are unpledged superdelegates. By the AP's count last November, Clinton had the support of 359 superdelegates. Since then, according to FiveThirtyEight's endorsement tracker, Clinton has picked up 21 congressional endorsements, for an estimated total of 380. The most recent count has Sanders at 11.

This is a much different story from a comparable point in the 2008 primaries, when Obama had already amassed a respectable number of superdelegates and most were still uncommitted. Unless uncommitted superdelegates switch allegiances or flock to Sanders in droves, he wouldn't just need to edge out Clinton in primaries, he would need to beat her soundly just to offset this huge deficit.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:39:48
February 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#56452
my boy bernie is going to do it

rubio is hammering home #emailgate
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
February 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#56453
Gawd, I just can't stand to continue listening to Repub speeches beyond the 1 minute mark. The divorce from reality is too much for me.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45380 Posts
February 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#56454
Sanders has 20 delegates and Clinton has 19, but Clinton is still up 50% to 49% of the votes apparently. Christ it's close.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12420 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 03:42:08
February 02 2016 03:41 GMT
#56455
nevermind ~~
No will to live, no wish to die
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45380 Posts
February 02 2016 03:41 GMT
#56456
I'm absolutely shocked that Huckabee has dropped out /s

Impressed that Rubio made it within striking distance of Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
February 02 2016 03:41 GMT
#56457
All the superdelegates will prolly go to Hillary though.

Great showing for Bernie anyway.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
February 02 2016 03:42 GMT
#56458
would bernie have won if omalley dropped out sooner?
Cowboy64
Profile Joined April 2015
115 Posts
February 02 2016 03:42 GMT
#56459
Cruz wins Iowa, let's go to a speech from Rubio... Nice work, Fox.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 02 2016 03:43 GMT
#56460
On February 02 2016 12:42 Cowboy64 wrote:
Cruz wins Iowa, let's go to a speech from Rubio... Nice work, Fox.

A news channel is biased. Shocker.
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