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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 11 2015 03:47 GMT
#50121
On November 11 2015 12:44 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 12:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 11 2015 12:33 cLutZ wrote:
Anyone catch Kasich on the side shot desperately imploring to be allowed to speak?


I love the visual representation of the party created by placing the people desperately speaking reason to the party literally on the outside while putting the crazy/ignorant center stage.

Bonus:

+ Show Spoiler +
No one is to the *left of Kasich from the audiences perspective.

Well, Kasich's major problem is that he is a liar. So all the things he says that people claim make him into the "adult in the room" get Pinnochio ratings

do you have a link for those? I'd like to review those.
If I get to a high level in politics, I'd hope that my statements would rate as truthful, certainly that's my plan (of course it's very unlikely i'll ever get anywhere, what with being honest and willing to take necessary action).
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 03:52:01
November 11 2015 03:51 GMT
#50122
Cruz and the gold standard.

What does he think a "lender of last resort" is? That's literally bailing out a bank with lower-than-market interest rates.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 11 2015 03:52 GMT
#50123
On November 11 2015 12:47 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 12:44 cLutZ wrote:
On November 11 2015 12:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 11 2015 12:33 cLutZ wrote:
Anyone catch Kasich on the side shot desperately imploring to be allowed to speak?


I love the visual representation of the party created by placing the people desperately speaking reason to the party literally on the outside while putting the crazy/ignorant center stage.

Bonus:

+ Show Spoiler +
No one is to the *left of Kasich from the audiences perspective.

Well, Kasich's major problem is that he is a liar. So all the things he says that people claim make him into the "adult in the room" get Pinnochio ratings

do you have a link for those? I'd like to review those.
If I get to a high level in politics, I'd hope that my statements would rate as truthful, certainly that's my plan (of course it's very unlikely i'll ever get anywhere, what with being honest and willing to take necessary action).


No, I forget what site even does Pinocchio's. But I looked 2 debates ago and like all his "I'm the realistic guy" statements were rated poorly. The rest of what he talks about is complete non-sequitors.
Freeeeeeedom
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2015 03:53 GMT
#50124
Never mind the fact that inflation is under 1% and the dollar is pretty strong right now..
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 11 2015 03:53 GMT
#50125
Is this kasich tlaking now? I'm still not sure on all the faces. This guy doens't seem to get how FDIC works.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 03:56:03
November 11 2015 03:54 GMT
#50126
Crowd is booing banking insurance or government guarantees on savings?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2015 03:55 GMT
#50127
Also Ted Cruz earlier wanted to end several Government entities but just said he wanted the Fed to target Gold prices... I mean really?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 11 2015 03:55 GMT
#50128
Stupid Fiorina, using the word Socialism incorrectly, even considering how many different meanings it has she uses the one that means stuff she dislikes.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 11 2015 03:56 GMT
#50129
On November 11 2015 12:54 acker wrote:
Crowd is booing banking insurance?

No, they're booing Kasich's saying that government would decide who gets bailed out and who wouldn't. Cruz trapped him good, there.

The problem is that Kasich and Cruz were conflating FDIC insurance with bailing out a bank. The two aren't the same thing.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 11 2015 03:57 GMT
#50130
On November 11 2015 12:44 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 12:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 11 2015 12:33 cLutZ wrote:
Anyone catch Kasich on the side shot desperately imploring to be allowed to speak?


I love the visual representation of the party created by placing the people desperately speaking reason to the party literally on the outside while putting the crazy/ignorant center stage.

Bonus:

+ Show Spoiler +
No one is to the *left of Kasich from the audiences perspective.

Well, Kasich's major problem is that he is a liar. So all the things he says that people claim make him into the "adult in the room" get Pinnochio ratings

Kasich is guilty of way over-playing his hand in this debate. I don't think he's doing himself any favors.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#50131
Fiorina did a decent job articulating on such a short time the strategy of creating a problem with government programs, then proposing a second program to fix says problem.
Freeeeeeedom
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
November 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#50132
On November 11 2015 12:54 acker wrote:
Crowd is booing banking insurance or government guarantees on savings?

Cause you should never trust a bank, They've been known to fail.

Screw all those people who did. Gotta bury all your money in the backyard.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 04:00:32
November 11 2015 03:59 GMT
#50133
It's been the 21st century for a while Rubio. Also I have no idea what what you're saying has to do with Hillary Clinton's experience as Secretary of State.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5082 Posts
November 11 2015 03:59 GMT
#50134
I think it was mainly Kasich with the problem on that topic, but then again I was tabbed out at that time.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 04:01:17
November 11 2015 04:00 GMT
#50135
That was the greatest way to state "anti-homosexual".
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 04:01:40
November 11 2015 04:01 GMT
#50136
We shoulda bombed all those dudes - Cruz
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 11 2015 04:01 GMT
#50137
On November 11 2015 12:59 Introvert wrote:
I think it was mainly Kasich with the problem on that topic, but then again I was tabbed out at that time.

Kasich was actually in a good spot to score some points, then Cruz trapped him badly and Kasich said something truly stupid, which got him booed.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
November 11 2015 04:01 GMT
#50138
He's trying to convince the geriatrics in the audience they're the future.
LiquidDota Staff
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
November 11 2015 04:02 GMT
#50139
On November 11 2015 12:05 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 20:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 10 2015 15:15 IgnE wrote:
Is a white girl wanting to dress up as Pocahontas offensive? Or is Disney offensive?


Neither? (I mean, I think Walt Disney was a historically racist guy or something, but the company isn't necessarily racist for having a princess of a certain race or ethnicity.) I've seen white girls dress as Pocahontas before. They didn't use blackface or whatever the equivalent would be for Native Americans.


Sorry to necro this argument but the Yale email mentioned "Indian feathers." If a white girl was wearing Native-American garb and a feather that wouldn't be offensive in the slightest? I bet I can find people who disagree. What about a white girl dressing up as Tiana from the Princess and the Frog? Without blackface? Is your position here solely that blackface is the only thing that's off-limits because that is not what the Yale email was about.


I think this status sums up my position on the issue:

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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 04:04:02
November 11 2015 04:03 GMT
#50140
Politicians talked a lot about corporate aversion in 2012 and 2008 (and even 2004), Trump, I'm not sure you watched the elections.
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