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KwarK

United States44440 Posts

October 13 2015 22:37 GMT

#47781

Blair's religion certainly impacted his decision to lead armies to the Holy Land.

Jormundr

United States1678 Posts

October 13 2015 22:38 GMT

#47782

On October 14 2015 07:31 MotherFox wrote:

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On October 14 2015 07:26 Jormundr wrote:

On October 14 2015 07:22 MotherFox wrote:

On October 14 2015 06:55 KwarK wrote:

On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:

On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:

On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.html

When Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."

"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.

Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines.

I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything.

She started off asking him about his religion, and he is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia.

Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question.

Religion impacts policy.

But not in predictable ways, as evidenced by the widely different policies implemented by many presidents who seemingly share a religion. For instance, GW was Methodist and according to wiki Obama has attended mostly Methodist churches since he resigned from the Trinity United Church of Christ. Yet they have had pretty different policies.

It seems clear to me that religion is not a very important aspect of a potential president's decision making process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

That's not what Ben Carson supporters have been saying for the past 7 years when they say that Obama is a muslim.

It's probably fair to say that I disagree with Ben Carson supporters

Why? Because religion influences their political choices?

Krikkitone

United States1451 Posts

October 13 2015 22:58 GMT

#47783

On October 14 2015 07:37 KwarK wrote:
Blair's religion certainly impacted his decision to lead armies to the Holy Land.

However that wasn't really predictable from his religion.
It was only in that particular circumstance that his individual interpretation of his religion led to that policy.

Getting into great detail on someone's religious views would be interesting but not as much as their general social/political/economic views (which their religious views will tend to support assuming they think at all)

MotherFox

United States1529 Posts

October 13 2015 23:07 GMT

#47784

On October 14 2015 07:38 Jormundr wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 14 2015 07:31 MotherFox wrote:

On October 14 2015 07:26 Jormundr wrote:

On October 14 2015 07:22 MotherFox wrote:

On October 14 2015 06:55 KwarK wrote:

On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:

On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:

Religion impacts policy.

That's not what Ben Carson supporters have been saying for the past 7 years when they say that Obama is a muslim.

It's probably fair to say that I disagree with Ben Carson supporters

Why? Because religion influences their political choices?

An apparent belief in religious discrimination/islamaphobia being OK is a part of it, but mostly it's that I fall on the far left of the spectrum and have little in common politically speaking with any of the conservative candidates this year.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

October 13 2015 23:08 GMT

#47785

Well considering a lot of the GOP candidates have specifically tried to invoke religion as the primary foundation behind their opinions on the issues it does matter. Someone like Obama comes off as not being as influenced by his religion when making decisions, the opposite can be said for many of the GOP's candidates,

OuchyDathurts

United States4588 Posts

October 13 2015 23:32 GMT

#47786

Didn't Bush try and convince Jacques Chirac to join the invasion of Iraq because of Gog and Magog?

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46692 Posts

October 13 2015 23:33 GMT

#47787

On October 14 2015 08:08 Slaughter wrote:
Well considering a lot of the GOP candidates have specifically tried to invoke religion as the primary foundation behind their opinions on the issues it does matter. Someone like Obama comes off as not being as influenced by his religion when making decisions, the opposite can be said for many of the GOP's candidates,

I agree with that, and that makes me incredibly happy (with Obama) as both an atheist and as someone who recognizes that the government is supposed to be impartial and secularist. The Republican candidates invoke God every chance they get, and it's really annoying.

Danglars

United States12133 Posts

October 14 2015 00:16 GMT

#47788

Cmon lively debate. I don't think Hillary has a shot at making t so, unless somebody incites her to the Team Woman shtick. Trump promises a live-tweet. I want the two arguing at who's further left or authentically left (to each other or individually on questions and to the camera). Second best would be giggling at The Trump tweets and following media storm.

Epishade

United States2267 Posts

October 14 2015 00:48 GMT

#47789

Any of you guys trying to watch debate on cnn.com? My stream crashed as soon as the debate was about to start, but has been working for the past half hour before.

Acrofales

Spain18488 Posts

October 14 2015 00:50 GMT

#47790

wow. I have seen rocks with more charisma than Lincoln Chafee. Wtf was that terrible speech?!

EDIT: Jim Webb is only very marginally better with his desperate bid for the sympathy vote.

EDIT 2: O'Malley is nervous, but his speech is a billion times better than the previous two.

EDIT 3: Bernie Sanders knows how to speak

EDIT 4: Hilary putting me to sleep. She doesnt have Bernie's pzaz, despite hitting many of the same issues.

renlynn

United States276 Posts

October 14 2015 00:50 GMT

#47791

it's been working fine for me since 8:25, minus a couple of commercial breaks

The_Templar

your Country52798 Posts

October 14 2015 00:51 GMT

#47792

On October 14 2015 09:48 Epishade wrote:
Any of you guys trying to watch debate on cnn.com? My stream crashed as soon as the debate was about to start, but has been working for the past half hour before.

I'm in a lounge watching with ~15 other students, but I've heard the stream is not great. >.>

Leporello

United States2845 Posts

October 14 2015 00:57 GMT

#47793

Webb sounds like a nervous applicant in his first job interview.
I like the guy, but I can't imagine him Pres.

O'Malley sounds better.

Bernie is just railing issue after issue. Loving it.

Hillary's intro was smooth as well. And she's handled Cooper's jabs pretty well.

Brutaxilos

United States2634 Posts

October 14 2015 00:58 GMT

#47794

Can someone tell me if there's a stream somewhere that I can watch from abroad? The CNN stream is not available in Korea so I need to use an extension to make them think I'm in the US which makes it significantly slower.