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On October 13 2015 06:48 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 03:13 cLutZ wrote:On October 13 2015 01:22 Gorsameth wrote:On October 13 2015 01:13 oneofthem wrote:
facebook tax is a point against tax arbitrage and for more intl governance.
in the eu it means unified tax and probably fiscal union Fiscal union and/or unified tax does nothing so long as countries somewhere on the world are havens. If you really wanne fix it you would need a global fiscal union which eliminates taxes havens. It is amazing the lengths people want governments to go to so they can maximize tax revenue. Why is there never soul searching about why they are being out completed for profits. Why do you think that pretending like people are not human would lead to a better answer? Humans in general are greedy power hungry beings, to pretend otherwise is a recipe for failure. Was my option realistic? Hell no but a fiscal unions impact on tax evasion will be limited so long as there is a viable tax haven somewhere in the world. Because people are greedy and if they have the option they will use it.
The problem in this situation isn't greedy people acting rationally. Its greedy politicians lying rationally and getting upset over lacking a total control over every possible situation.
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On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything.
well to be fair If someone's running for president I'd kind of like to know if they think the biblical apocalypse is about to happen. That being said I actually think his answers not too terrible although I don't think any actual countries will think "well the apocalypse is coming I better nuke someone."
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On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything.
When you believe someone has strange/radical ideas you ask that person questions about those ideas to find out if your right.
During normal questions it became apparent that Carson had deeply religious ideas so future questions probe just how deep they go.
The crazier you are, the more crazy questions you will get.
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It is just a factual statement that there are groups out there who would like to bring on the end times and would use a nuke in an attempt to usher it in. To say that there is a current government with that ideology is probably a stretch but it isn't too hard to imagine a scenario where a radical group takes power and has this line of thinking.
Imagine cold-war era tension except one side doesn't have self-preservation as a concern.
edit: also the "we are always getting closer to it" or however he said it is just a true statement as well ^^. I mean I don't like Carson but his answer to that question was reasonable enough.
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You can't have factual statements about the end times. His answer is no better than if he'd started talking about the servants of Sauron.
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One does not simply *speak* of the Nazgul.
Plus there's 9 of them. There's only four horsemen. Oh, and the nine ride giant corrupted flying lizards. I know what I'm more scared of.
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The Democratic debate can’t come fast enough to free us of the current line of discussion.
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imagine that guy in control of a bazillion nukes. nope
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On October 14 2015 00:31 oneofthem wrote:
imagine that guy in control of a bazillion nukes. nope
Well considering it only took ~6-10,000 years for humans to accomplish everything mankind has accomplished what's the big deal? Humanity did just fine after the world was flooded and Noah and his family saved all of the animals and repopulated earth and that was only ~3,500 years ago.
So maybe a bunch of nukes go off, nbd, another 3,500 years and we'll be right back, maybe even faster if more than one family on a giant arc lives through it.
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You might want to read up about radiation (i know your not serious  ).
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Carson is just accepting what will happen when the moon explodes and the hard rain starts.
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I for one welcome my new career as a Vault Overseer.
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On October 13 2015 21:46 KwarK wrote:
You can't have factual statements about the end times. His answer is no better than if he'd started talking about the servants of Sauron.
The statement that we are getting closer to the end is a factual one(unless one believes that time is directionless/cyclic). As well as the fact that some people believe a type of end days is near. (that is a foundational part of IS theology for example)
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On October 14 2015 04:23 Krikkitone wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 21:46 KwarK wrote:
You can't have factual statements about the end times. His answer is no better than if he'd started talking about the servants of Sauron. The statement that we are getting closer to the end is a factual one(unless one believes that time is directionless/cyclic). As well as the fact that some people believe a type of end days is near. (that is a foundational part of IS theology for example)
Don't pretend to be an idiot. It wastes both of our time.
Firstly it was clear from context that the end of days was not the heat death of the universe but rather the biblical apocalypse. There was no ambiguity and pretending that you think there was ambiguity is just pretending that you have comprehension issues. You don't and you certainly don't need me to explain what "end of days' means.
Secondly,
he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
The issue is that he personally believes that we are approaching the apocalypse. He added some comments about the state of the world but the quote above wasn't about the opinions of ISIS, it was his own.
Thirdly, while getting closer could indeed simply be a statement of direction, that the distance, or in this case time, from A to B has been reduced any English speaker would infer that a degree of proximity is implied. Getting closer suggests that the subject is close already, and that the closeness has increased. But surely you already know this and you're just attempting to reframe it as "Carson was just trying to argue that time has a direction and therefore all future events are getting closer" to try and argue.
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On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything.
She started off asking him about his religion. He is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia. So I guess it was on-topic.
Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question.
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On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything. She started off asking him about his religion, and he is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia. Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question.
Religion impacts policy.
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On October 14 2015 06:55 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything. She started off asking him about his religion, and he is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia. Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question. Religion impacts policy.
But not in predictable ways, as evidenced by the widely different policies implemented by many presidents who seemingly share a religion. For instance, GW was Methodist and according to wiki Obama has attended mostly Methodist churches since he resigned from the Trinity United Church of Christ. Yet they have had pretty different policies.
It seems clear to me that religion is not a very important aspect of a potential president's decision making process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
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On October 14 2015 07:22 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 06:55 KwarK wrote:On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything. She started off asking him about his religion, and he is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia. Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question. Religion impacts policy. But not in predictable ways, as evidenced by the widely different policies implemented by many presidents who seemingly share a religion. For instance, GW was Methodist and according to wiki Obama has attended mostly Methodist churches since he resigned from the Trinity United Church of Christ. Yet they have had pretty different policies. It seems clear to me that religion is not a very important aspect of a potential president's decision making process. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
That's not what Ben Carson supporters have been saying for the past 7 years when they say that Obama is a muslim.
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On October 14 2015 07:26 Jormundr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 07:22 MotherFox wrote:On October 14 2015 06:55 KwarK wrote:On October 14 2015 06:53 MotherFox wrote:On October 13 2015 12:33 LuckyFool wrote:On October 13 2015 12:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Ben Carson being Ben Carson. Okay its not as bad as I originally thought (stupid thast actual news sites putting clickbait titles) but its still kinda out there. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/ben-carson-end-of-days/index.htmlWhen Carson was asked by journalist Sharyl Attkisson if he believed the "end of days" was near, he said, "You could guess that we are getting closer to that."
"You do have people who have a belief system that sees this apocalyptic phenomena occurring and that they are a part of it, who would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons if they gained possession of them," Carson told Attkisson, a former CBS News reporter, on her show, "Full Measure" that aired Sunday.
Why are people even asking him if he thinks the end of days are near. I swear these questions are coming out just to induce more clickbait headlines. I'm glad he said he's not backing down or changing anything. She started off asking him about his religion, and he is seventh-day adventist--- which is a denomination which believes in the imminent second coming of Christ, according to wikipedia. Of course why we still ask candidates about their religion is another good question. Religion impacts policy. But not in predictable ways, as evidenced by the widely different policies implemented by many presidents who seemingly share a religion. For instance, GW was Methodist and according to wiki Obama has attended mostly Methodist churches since he resigned from the Trinity United Church of Christ. Yet they have had pretty different policies. It seems clear to me that religion is not a very important aspect of a potential president's decision making process. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States That's not what Ben Carson supporters have been saying for the past 7 years when they say that Obama is a muslim.
It's probably fair to say that I disagree with Ben Carson supporters 
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