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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 16 2015 20:30 GMT
#45921
On September 17 2015 04:59 Plansix wrote:
The number chances the school had to not be complete idiots during this is mind boggling. The fact that the police and school are stilling doubling down that they didn’t show terrible judgment and common sense is also pretty amazing.

Amazing to no one who went to public school in the last 10 years.
Freeeeeeedom
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 16 2015 20:31 GMT
#45922
On September 17 2015 05:30 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 04:59 Plansix wrote:
The number chances the school had to not be complete idiots during this is mind boggling. The fact that the police and school are stilling doubling down that they didn’t show terrible judgment and common sense is also pretty amazing.

Amazing to no one who went to public school in the last 10 years.

Having taught in public schools, I am a little surprised it got so far that they called the police. But this is Texas.
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kornetka
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Poland129 Posts
September 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#45923
On September 17 2015 00:52 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Qatars royal family is terrorizing Beverley Hills residents with their diplomatic immunity
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/laferrari-driver-caught-terrifying-beverly-hills-129157052077.html
Show nested quote +
A YouTube video that went viral — showing a Ferrari LaFerrari and Porsche 911 GT3 tearing through residential streets of Beverly Hills; flying though stop signs while pedestrians waited to cross, narrowly avoiding other motorists — has caused outrage, with neighbors pleading with police to take action before someone gets hurt.

According to NBC4, the owner of said vehicles is claiming “diplomatic immunity,” telling a video journalist who asked for comment, “I could have you killed and get away with it.”

The name of the car’s owner has not been released, but he is rumored to be part of the Qatari royal family, and indeed the yellow LaFerrari — that boasts 950 hybrid horsepower and a price tag of $1.5 million — is registered to Qatar.

In the video the cars are seen screaming through residential streets, an area neighbors claim children play, before returning to the $10 million rented house in which the owner resides with smoke billowing from under the Ferrari’s hood. Video journalist Jacob Rogers told NBC4 he confronted the LaFerrari owner, and having been told he could effectively get away with murder due to his diplomatic status, he finished the brief interaction, according to Rogers, by saying, “’(Expletive) America’ and threw a cigarette at me.“

Local police are now investigating the incident which occurred last Saturday evening, telling Jalopnik that “It’s in the hands of the State Department now,” and, “Honestly, we don’t even know who was driving the Ferrari. All this driving occurred outside the presence of the police.”

Police did state that they have positively identified the driver of the Porsche.

As for the “diplomatic immunity” claims, if the correct credentialing is present, that could be a legitimate boundary to prevent the State Department from prosecuting the driver(s). It is possible for the official’s home country to waive immunity in the most serious of cases — such as in 2002 when a Colombian diplomat was prosecuted in London for manslaughter — but cases like this are rare. However diplomats may be expelled from a country where pleas to waive immunity have been denied.

In the case of the Beverly Hills LaFerrari/GT3 owner(s), time will only tell what punishment, if any, they receive. Despite the GT3 driver being identified, as of now, no charges have been made.





Hopefully something will be done about it before it's too late. In Poland attache of the Embassy of Kuwait did a hit and run, which resulted in a woman's death, and got away with it.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 16 2015 20:54 GMT
#45924
It has nothing to do with Texas. In my AP Comp Sci class (after the AP test we did basically nothing) the class Valedictorian for the year above me discovered a security flaw in the schools router and reported it. This flaw was so absurd anyone who looked could find it (the Comp Sci teacher replicated it to the Principal). The deans called him a hacker and suspended him, and tried to prevent him from walking at graduation. This is how schools operate. They overreact to everything, and the administrators are personally shielded from the financial repercussions caused by their idiocy.

Another kid got expelled for having a single loose shotgun shell in his trunk in the parking lot. The police tried to charge him for it as well, but the prosecutor declined the case.
Freeeeeeedom
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 16 2015 22:18 GMT
#45925
What an embarrassing intro to the debates on behalf of CNN. I know they are treating this like a reality TV show, but that doesn't mean it is one.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 16 2015 22:41 GMT
#45926
Graham is all over the place. He sounds completely incoherent.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 16 2015 22:43 GMT
#45927
True, but his back and forth with Santorum is hilarious.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 16 2015 22:55 GMT
#45928
Hah nice. Pataki calling out the conservative Christian hypocrisy on religious beliefs.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 16 2015 23:00 GMT
#45929
Santorum does know his shit, but I don't see him going anywhere. Republicans will make a huge mistake if they spit themselves on this Kim Davis crap.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22102 Posts
September 16 2015 23:06 GMT
#45930
On September 17 2015 08:00 xDaunt wrote:
Santorum does know his shit, but I don't see him going anywhere. Republicans will make a huge mistake if they spit themselves on this Kim Davis crap.

The usual problem with the Republican party.
Pandering to the outline while running away from the center and any chance to win an election.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 16 2015 23:08 GMT
#45931
Bobby Jindal is so disappointing.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 16 2015 23:09 GMT
#45932
It terrifies me that Santorum and Jindal have absolutely no idea what the Supreme Court is truly about.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 16 2015 23:11 GMT
#45933
Is Graham drunk?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 16 2015 23:12 GMT
#45934
That or he's having a minor seizure.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45286 Posts
September 16 2015 23:31 GMT
#45935
On September 17 2015 05:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:30 cLutZ wrote:
On September 17 2015 04:59 Plansix wrote:
The number chances the school had to not be complete idiots during this is mind boggling. The fact that the police and school are stilling doubling down that they didn’t show terrible judgment and common sense is also pretty amazing.

Amazing to no one who went to public school in the last 10 years.

Having taught in public schools, I am a little surprised it got so far that they called the police. But this is Texas.


Yeah same. I think it's far more of a Texas/ fearmongering/ cultural/ racist issue than something like "Psh typical public school." There are some awful and some amazing administrators and faculty in countless public and private schools.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45286 Posts
September 16 2015 23:33 GMT
#45936
On September 17 2015 05:51 kornetka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 00:52 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Qatars royal family is terrorizing Beverley Hills residents with their diplomatic immunity
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/laferrari-driver-caught-terrifying-beverly-hills-129157052077.html
A YouTube video that went viral — showing a Ferrari LaFerrari and Porsche 911 GT3 tearing through residential streets of Beverly Hills; flying though stop signs while pedestrians waited to cross, narrowly avoiding other motorists — has caused outrage, with neighbors pleading with police to take action before someone gets hurt.

According to NBC4, the owner of said vehicles is claiming “diplomatic immunity,” telling a video journalist who asked for comment, “I could have you killed and get away with it.”

The name of the car’s owner has not been released, but he is rumored to be part of the Qatari royal family, and indeed the yellow LaFerrari — that boasts 950 hybrid horsepower and a price tag of $1.5 million — is registered to Qatar.

In the video the cars are seen screaming through residential streets, an area neighbors claim children play, before returning to the $10 million rented house in which the owner resides with smoke billowing from under the Ferrari’s hood. Video journalist Jacob Rogers told NBC4 he confronted the LaFerrari owner, and having been told he could effectively get away with murder due to his diplomatic status, he finished the brief interaction, according to Rogers, by saying, “’(Expletive) America’ and threw a cigarette at me.“

Local police are now investigating the incident which occurred last Saturday evening, telling Jalopnik that “It’s in the hands of the State Department now,” and, “Honestly, we don’t even know who was driving the Ferrari. All this driving occurred outside the presence of the police.”

Police did state that they have positively identified the driver of the Porsche.

As for the “diplomatic immunity” claims, if the correct credentialing is present, that could be a legitimate boundary to prevent the State Department from prosecuting the driver(s). It is possible for the official’s home country to waive immunity in the most serious of cases — such as in 2002 when a Colombian diplomat was prosecuted in London for manslaughter — but cases like this are rare. However diplomats may be expelled from a country where pleas to waive immunity have been denied.

In the case of the Beverly Hills LaFerrari/GT3 owner(s), time will only tell what punishment, if any, they receive. Despite the GT3 driver being identified, as of now, no charges have been made.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knzz2gzJF30


Hopefully something will be done about it before it's too late. In Poland attache of the Embassy of Kuwait did a hit and run, which resulted in a woman's death, and got away with it.


I wish all the safety in the world to the people who have to be wary of those idiots
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 16 2015 23:38 GMT
#45937
Jindal's a rabid dog.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 16 2015 23:38 GMT
#45938
Jindal just sounds like another clueless Tea Party hack that wants to throw a temper tantrum whenever he doesn't get his way politically instead of actually doing a job and getting things done.

I really wish someone would call him out on how much of a shit hole Louisiana is when he talks about what he's done there.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 16 2015 23:42 GMT
#45939
On September 17 2015 08:38 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Jindal just sounds like another clueless Tea Party hack that wants to throw a temper tantrum whenever he doesn't get his way politically instead of actually doing a job and getting things done.

I really wish someone would call him out on how much of a shit hole Louisiana is when he talks about what he's done there.


That was what I was thinking. I don't actually know what kind of state Louisiana is in right now, but he boasts "People talk about gutting spending, but we actually did it in my state."

My first thought was "ok, that's fine, how has it worked out?"
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 16 2015 23:43 GMT
#45940
Where is The Donald??
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