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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#45901
The plan is idiotic because terrorist make up a very small portion of the population in the middle east. ISIS has around 30-40K fighters. Syria alone has a population of 30 million. The idea that violence alone will solve the problem is short sighted, overly simplistic and just the type of moronic advice you would see on the internet.
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 16:02:15
September 16 2015 15:52 GMT
#45902
Qatars royal family is terrorizing Beverley Hills residents with their diplomatic immunity
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/laferrari-driver-caught-terrifying-beverly-hills-129157052077.html
A YouTube video that went viral — showing a Ferrari LaFerrari and Porsche 911 GT3 tearing through residential streets of Beverly Hills; flying though stop signs while pedestrians waited to cross, narrowly avoiding other motorists — has caused outrage, with neighbors pleading with police to take action before someone gets hurt.

According to NBC4, the owner of said vehicles is claiming “diplomatic immunity,” telling a video journalist who asked for comment, “I could have you killed and get away with it.”

The name of the car’s owner has not been released, but he is rumored to be part of the Qatari royal family, and indeed the yellow LaFerrari — that boasts 950 hybrid horsepower and a price tag of $1.5 million — is registered to Qatar.

In the video the cars are seen screaming through residential streets, an area neighbors claim children play, before returning to the $10 million rented house in which the owner resides with smoke billowing from under the Ferrari’s hood. Video journalist Jacob Rogers told NBC4 he confronted the LaFerrari owner, and having been told he could effectively get away with murder due to his diplomatic status, he finished the brief interaction, according to Rogers, by saying, “’(Expletive) America’ and threw a cigarette at me.“

Local police are now investigating the incident which occurred last Saturday evening, telling Jalopnik that “It’s in the hands of the State Department now,” and, “Honestly, we don’t even know who was driving the Ferrari. All this driving occurred outside the presence of the police.”

Police did state that they have positively identified the driver of the Porsche.

As for the “diplomatic immunity” claims, if the correct credentialing is present, that could be a legitimate boundary to prevent the State Department from prosecuting the driver(s). It is possible for the official’s home country to waive immunity in the most serious of cases — such as in 2002 when a Colombian diplomat was prosecuted in London for manslaughter — but cases like this are rare. However diplomats may be expelled from a country where pleas to waive immunity have been denied.

In the case of the Beverly Hills LaFerrari/GT3 owner(s), time will only tell what punishment, if any, they receive. Despite the GT3 driver being identified, as of now, no charges have been made.



Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 16:56:41
September 16 2015 16:53 GMT
#45903
On September 16 2015 12:34 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 12:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:03 xDaunt wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:42 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
The path to failure is easy to avoid, if you acknowledge its existence, which America has failed to do recently.

Hey guys we have a five star general here who can end terrorism.


No I can't. I can know, however, that that is not a military goal.

Edit: By the way, the military generals will tell you that they could end terrorism if they got to do what they wanted.

No shit. This idea that we couldn't stomp out an insurgency if we wanted to is so damned myopic historically. Plenty of nations/countries/peoples have been successful at it -- including the US.

If by "successful" you mean conquered them for decades until the nation overthrew them and are today's communist, terrorist or militaristic dictactorships, then sure, so much success.


Not a lot of Native American terrorists. Or German. Or Japanese.

are we forgetting about this whole 9/11 thing? If I'm not ridiculously mistaken those guys were living in Hamburg?

google tells me
The Hamburg cell (German: Hamburger Zelle) or Hamburg terror cell (German: Hamburger Terrorzelle) was, according to U.S. and German intelligence agencies, a group of radical Islamists based in Hamburg, Germany that included students who eventually came to be key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Important members included Mohamed Atta, who led the four hijacking teams in 2001 and piloted American Airlines Flight 11; Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who conspired with the other three members but was unable to enter the United States; and Marwan al-Shehhi, who piloted United Airlines Flight 175, Ziad Jarrah, who piloted United Airlines Flight 93 and failed to hit a target in Washington D.C., claimed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to have been the Capitol. Less important members included Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar, Mounir el-Motassadeq, and Abdelghani Mzoudi.

(wikipedia)

Though granted, from a quantitive point of view, sure, there are very few crazies in Germany / Japan that are crazy enough for that given how good of a life they usually have with Germany / Japan being pretty wealthy in general.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 16 2015 17:32 GMT
#45904
The rate of uninsured Americans dropped to 10.4 percent last year, a decrease of roughly 3 percentage points from 2013, according to data released by the Census Bureau today. In addition, 33 million Americans were uninsured last year, 8.8 million fewer than in 2013.

The date from the Current Population Survey is the first released since the full implementation of Obamacare. The expansion of Medicaid in most states and the availability of subsidies to purchase private insurance through exchanges has made coverage more accessible for millions of Americans.

The Current Population Survey, which has been produced annually since 1987, is widely regarded as the most authoritative source for measuring the country’s uninsured rate. However, the Census Bureau changed its methodology last year, raising concerns from conservatives that the change was an effort to obscure the effects of Obamacare.

But with a second year of data now available under the new system, it’s clear that there’s been a significant reduction in the number and rate of uninsured Americans. Similar studies produced by the Urban Institute, RAND Corporation, Commonwealth Fund and Gallup have all produced similar results.

The Census Bureau will release another study looking at the health insurance status of Americans, the American Community Survey, on Thursday.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 16 2015 18:09 GMT
#45905
On September 17 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 12:34 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:03 xDaunt wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:42 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
The path to failure is easy to avoid, if you acknowledge its existence, which America has failed to do recently.

Hey guys we have a five star general here who can end terrorism.


No I can't. I can know, however, that that is not a military goal.

Edit: By the way, the military generals will tell you that they could end terrorism if they got to do what they wanted.

No shit. This idea that we couldn't stomp out an insurgency if we wanted to is so damned myopic historically. Plenty of nations/countries/peoples have been successful at it -- including the US.

If by "successful" you mean conquered them for decades until the nation overthrew them and are today's communist, terrorist or militaristic dictactorships, then sure, so much success.


Not a lot of Native American terrorists. Or German. Or Japanese.

are we forgetting about this whole 9/11 thing? If I'm not ridiculously mistaken those guys were living in Hamburg?

google tells me
Show nested quote +
The Hamburg cell (German: Hamburger Zelle) or Hamburg terror cell (German: Hamburger Terrorzelle) was, according to U.S. and German intelligence agencies, a group of radical Islamists based in Hamburg, Germany that included students who eventually came to be key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Important members included Mohamed Atta, who led the four hijacking teams in 2001 and piloted American Airlines Flight 11; Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who conspired with the other three members but was unable to enter the United States; and Marwan al-Shehhi, who piloted United Airlines Flight 175, Ziad Jarrah, who piloted United Airlines Flight 93 and failed to hit a target in Washington D.C., claimed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to have been the Capitol. Less important members included Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar, Mounir el-Motassadeq, and Abdelghani Mzoudi.

(wikipedia)

Though granted, from a quantitive point of view, sure, there are very few crazies in Germany / Japan that are crazy enough for that given how good of a life they usually have with Germany / Japan being pretty wealthy in general.

Very interesting theory: 9/11 was committed by German terrorists. Do you know what faction they are from? Are they neo-Nazis who want Germany to return to its Pre-D-Day borders? Are they Bismark loyalists advocating for 1914 borders? Or are they descendants of the Holy Roman Empire trying to reassert the bloodline of Friedrick Barbarossa?
Freeeeeeedom
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 19:03:24
September 16 2015 19:03 GMT
#45906
On September 17 2015 03:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:34 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:03 xDaunt wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:42 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
The path to failure is easy to avoid, if you acknowledge its existence, which America has failed to do recently.

Hey guys we have a five star general here who can end terrorism.


No I can't. I can know, however, that that is not a military goal.

Edit: By the way, the military generals will tell you that they could end terrorism if they got to do what they wanted.

No shit. This idea that we couldn't stomp out an insurgency if we wanted to is so damned myopic historically. Plenty of nations/countries/peoples have been successful at it -- including the US.

If by "successful" you mean conquered them for decades until the nation overthrew them and are today's communist, terrorist or militaristic dictactorships, then sure, so much success.


Not a lot of Native American terrorists. Or German. Or Japanese.

are we forgetting about this whole 9/11 thing? If I'm not ridiculously mistaken those guys were living in Hamburg?

google tells me
The Hamburg cell (German: Hamburger Zelle) or Hamburg terror cell (German: Hamburger Terrorzelle) was, according to U.S. and German intelligence agencies, a group of radical Islamists based in Hamburg, Germany that included students who eventually came to be key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Important members included Mohamed Atta, who led the four hijacking teams in 2001 and piloted American Airlines Flight 11; Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who conspired with the other three members but was unable to enter the United States; and Marwan al-Shehhi, who piloted United Airlines Flight 175, Ziad Jarrah, who piloted United Airlines Flight 93 and failed to hit a target in Washington D.C., claimed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to have been the Capitol. Less important members included Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar, Mounir el-Motassadeq, and Abdelghani Mzoudi.

(wikipedia)

Though granted, from a quantitive point of view, sure, there are very few crazies in Germany / Japan that are crazy enough for that given how good of a life they usually have with Germany / Japan being pretty wealthy in general.

Very interesting theory: 9/11 was committed by German terrorists. Do you know what faction they are from? Are they neo-Nazis who want Germany to return to its Pre-D-Day borders? Are they Bismark loyalists advocating for 1914 borders? Or are they descendants of the Holy Roman Empire trying to reassert the bloodline of Friedrick Barbarossa?

I thought my last paragraph made it obvious enough that it wasn't meant all that serious. I just found it funny and didn't want to outright say so giving the topic at hand.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 16 2015 19:10 GMT
#45907
On September 17 2015 04:03 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 03:09 cLutZ wrote:
On September 17 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:34 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 12:03 xDaunt wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:42 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2015 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 16 2015 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
The path to failure is easy to avoid, if you acknowledge its existence, which America has failed to do recently.

Hey guys we have a five star general here who can end terrorism.


No I can't. I can know, however, that that is not a military goal.

Edit: By the way, the military generals will tell you that they could end terrorism if they got to do what they wanted.

No shit. This idea that we couldn't stomp out an insurgency if we wanted to is so damned myopic historically. Plenty of nations/countries/peoples have been successful at it -- including the US.

If by "successful" you mean conquered them for decades until the nation overthrew them and are today's communist, terrorist or militaristic dictactorships, then sure, so much success.


Not a lot of Native American terrorists. Or German. Or Japanese.

are we forgetting about this whole 9/11 thing? If I'm not ridiculously mistaken those guys were living in Hamburg?

google tells me
The Hamburg cell (German: Hamburger Zelle) or Hamburg terror cell (German: Hamburger Terrorzelle) was, according to U.S. and German intelligence agencies, a group of radical Islamists based in Hamburg, Germany that included students who eventually came to be key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Important members included Mohamed Atta, who led the four hijacking teams in 2001 and piloted American Airlines Flight 11; Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who conspired with the other three members but was unable to enter the United States; and Marwan al-Shehhi, who piloted United Airlines Flight 175, Ziad Jarrah, who piloted United Airlines Flight 93 and failed to hit a target in Washington D.C., claimed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to have been the Capitol. Less important members included Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar, Mounir el-Motassadeq, and Abdelghani Mzoudi.

(wikipedia)

Though granted, from a quantitive point of view, sure, there are very few crazies in Germany / Japan that are crazy enough for that given how good of a life they usually have with Germany / Japan being pretty wealthy in general.

Very interesting theory: 9/11 was committed by German terrorists. Do you know what faction they are from? Are they neo-Nazis who want Germany to return to its Pre-D-Day borders? Are they Bismark loyalists advocating for 1914 borders? Or are they descendants of the Holy Roman Empire trying to reassert the bloodline of Friedrick Barbarossa?

I thought my last paragraph made it obvious enough that it wasn't meant all that serious. I just found it funny and didn't want to outright say so giving the topic at hand.


Oh it was clear. I was just illustrating what an actual German terrorist would be. Not an Islamic terrorist who happens to reside in Germany.
Freeeeeeedom
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 16 2015 19:11 GMT
#45908
Does Aum Shinrikyo not count? This is a stupid discussion.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 16 2015 19:16 GMT
#45909
Breaking: White House on lock down.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 16 2015 19:18 GMT
#45910
Looks to be related to a suspicious package in a nearby park.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 19:24:46
September 16 2015 19:24 GMT
#45911
Probably just a gift from the Pope that got lost in carriage.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 16 2015 19:30 GMT
#45912
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
September 16 2015 19:38 GMT
#45913
On September 17 2015 04:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656

He forgot the "again"
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 16 2015 19:39 GMT
#45914
I don't get it.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4998 Posts
September 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#45915
Trump slogan. Or are you pulling my leg.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
September 16 2015 19:50 GMT
#45916
On September 17 2015 04:39 IgnE wrote:
I don't get it.

Maybe you didn't get the back story? #IStandWithAhmed:

Fourteen-year-old Ahmed Mohamed is a kid who loves to tinker, and was excited to show teachers at his Irving, Texas High school his latest invention: a clock with “a digital display, built into a metal case with a circuit board.” For this offense he was handcuffed and arrested, while bullying cops persisted in pointing out that the contraption “looks like a movie bomb to me.”

The mad leap to criminalize Ahmed’s clock has drawn attention to the U.S.’ knee-jerk Islamophobia and led to thousands of Twitter users sharing stories of their own actually dangerous science experiments that they were not criminalized for carrying out. Users have also contrasted images of kids with guns against the picture of Ahmed, scared and handcuffed in his NASA t-shirt.


http://gizmodo.com/istandwithahmed-the-internet-is-outraged-over-14-year-1731056201
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 20:00:01
September 16 2015 19:59 GMT
#45917
The number chances the school had to not be complete idiots during this is mind boggling. The fact that the police and school are stilling doubling down that they didn’t show terrible judgment and common sense is also pretty amazing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 16 2015 20:04 GMT
#45918
this is a 12 on the how texas is it scale
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 20:14:45
September 16 2015 20:08 GMT
#45919
On September 17 2015 05:04 oneofthem wrote:
this is a 12 on the how texas is it scale

There is a pair of pictures floating around with two kids of about 10 years old holding rifles and this poor guy in hand cuffs wearing his NASA shirt. The pair is title "Yesterday in Texas." I considered getting it framed.

Also this: http://www.cnet.com/news/13-year-old-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor/

Just think if our poor boy had been working on that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 20:31:11
September 16 2015 20:29 GMT
#45920
On September 17 2015 05:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:04 oneofthem wrote:
this is a 12 on the how texas is it scale

There is a pair of pictures floating around with two kids of about 10 years old holding rifles and this poor guy in hand cuffs wearing his NASA shirt. The pair is title "Yesterday in Texas." I considered getting it framed.

Also this: http://www.cnet.com/news/13-year-old-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor/

Just think if our poor boy had been working on that.


Probably would have sent in the National Guard, but they're busy protecting from Operation Jade Helm

EDIT: Apparently manufacturers used to use uranium paint to make glow-in-the-dark clock faces (or something like that). There was a Boy Scout project that built a primitive fission reactor using old clocks to get uranium, was an interesting bit of trivia.
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