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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 01:32:21
September 15 2015 01:20 GMT
#45821
Trump gave a speech in Mark Cubans Stadium bashing Karl Rowe for the better part of 20 minutes
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 15 2015 01:33 GMT
#45822
On September 15 2015 10:20 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump gave a speech in Mark Cubans Stadium bashing Karl Rowe for the better part of 20 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBsY9eqJGQ


Trump is great. Finally we have political theatre that is actually entertaining. The elites are catching on.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 15 2015 01:38 GMT
#45823
"There should be no estate tax".

I hate it when people say this. Do you guys have any idea why it was created in the first place?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
September 15 2015 01:52 GMT
#45824
That tax ain't going anywhere so let folks like clutz huff all they like
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 02:07:51
September 15 2015 02:06 GMT
#45825
I dunno, Canada and other countries do not have it, and it really depends on its supporters. When they occasionally veer into vitriol with the rhetoric it plummets in popularity.

Overall, the post was designed to demonstrate that when talking to a Libertarian about gay marriage, you say, "Assume all the other shit you hate still exists, should gays also have the same ways to cut through all that shit?"

Then we say yes, and go play EVE.
Freeeeeeedom
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 02:21:36
September 15 2015 02:20 GMT
#45826
We can just let wealth travel upwards until we reach the natural conclusion where the poor kill the rich. it's the natural outcome on a long enough time line, and why should the government get in the way of nature.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 04:13:35
September 15 2015 04:10 GMT
#45827
On September 15 2015 11:20 Plansix wrote:
We can just let wealth travel upwards until we reach the natural conclusion where the poor kill the rich. it's the natural outcome on a long enough time line, and why should the government get in the way of nature.

I wish a was poor. I could work alot less and just complain about not having the things I want instead of working hard for them. Then I should spend all my time explains how the man is holding me down and how their isnt a level playing field and how the system is rigged against me. Except it isnt...but it is because of institutionalized racism, sexism, social hierarchy, political discourse, cultural insensitivity etc. How I wish I could do that but im to busy working

Sorry that the man is holding your people down Plansix. You should elect a president that will be champion for the middle class and give them a fighting chance!

Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 15 2015 04:11 GMT
#45828
Canada does not have an "Estate Tax", but that doesn't mean estates don't get taxed.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 04:31:16
September 15 2015 04:13 GMT
#45829
On September 15 2015 13:10 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 11:20 Plansix wrote:
We can just let wealth travel upwards until we reach the natural conclusion where the poor kill the rich. it's the natural outcome on a long enough time line, and why should the government get in the way of nature.

I wish a was poor. I could work alot less and just complain about not having the things I want instead of working hard for them. Then I should spend all my time explains how the man is holding me down and how their isnt a level playing field and how the system is rigged against me. Except it isnt...but it is because of institutionalized racism, sexism, social hierarchy, political discourse, cultural insensitivity etc. How I wish I could do that but im to busy working

The funny part is that you think you would work less.

Edit: kid, no one is holding me down. I own a house and have a more than full time job that supports me.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42654 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 04:19:50
September 15 2015 04:19 GMT
#45830
I'm amazed someone as illiterate as whatisthisasheep considers himself one of the elite. I'm desperately hoping he's just a child of rich parents whose prep school education was somehow unable to teach him the difference between too, two and to, or there, their and they're.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 15 2015 04:29 GMT
#45831
He stumps for Trump, but does it to get a rise out of people in the thread. H was convinced that South Korea should just invade North Korea to get it over with. He seems like a true Internet edgelord.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
September 15 2015 04:54 GMT
#45832
On September 15 2015 13:19 KwarK wrote:
I'm amazed someone as illiterate as whatisthisasheep considers himself one of the elite. I'm desperately hoping he's just a child of rich parents whose prep school education was somehow unable to teach him the difference between too, two and to, or there, their and they're.

I am a young impoverished woman of color born in rural south africa who is trying to etch out a meager living for my family by moving to the States. I have successfully overcame seemly insurmountable obstacles in my journey to fame and fortune and dont want others to go what I had to go through then in order to get where I am now becuase it was to difficult. I choose to devote my spare time making sure people big corporations are held accountable for both their rhetorical and ethical choices, because they wouldn't exist if it wasent for us hard working folk.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 15 2015 05:18 GMT
#45833
A Golden Valley woman is asking the courts to allow her to smoke marijuana for religious reasons — because she belongs to the First Church of Cannabis.

Through her lawyer, 31-year-old Ashley Firnschild is arguing to the Hennepin County District Court that the weed’s illegality places an “undue burden” on her “sincerely held” religious beliefs as a member of the Indiana-based church established earlier this year. The case is coming before the court because Firnschild is alleged to have smoked the weed in violation of a condition of her probation for a drug charge.

Firnschild’s use of marijuana is based on “guidance in the philosophies of her church” and her embrace of the church’s mission “establishes her dedication and sincerity to such ideologies,” the motion said.


http://www.startribune.com/defendant-cites-religion-seeks-reprieve-from-probation-ban-on-smoking-marijuana/327605281/

Holy shit I hope this works. I'd love to see what conservative evangelicals have to say about other religions being able to circumvent state (and federal) law because of their "sincerely held religious beliefs".
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 15 2015 05:26 GMT
#45834
There is...a completely on point case. Compelling interest + least restrictive means. With the existence of Obamacare, the government has a compelling interest in everything you put into your body.
Freeeeeeedom
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 05:33:42
September 15 2015 05:32 GMT
#45835
On September 15 2015 14:26 cLutZ wrote:
There is...a completely on point case. Compelling interest + least restrictive means. With the existence of Obamacare, the government has a compelling interest in everything you put into your body.

Odd. Nations with better universal healthcare coverage for longer periods seem to care a lot less about policing individual lifestyle's than your nation does.

The war on drugs has existed a lot longer than universal healthcare in your country as well.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 15 2015 05:42 GMT
#45836
On September 15 2015 14:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 14:26 cLutZ wrote:
There is...a completely on point case. Compelling interest + least restrictive means. With the existence of Obamacare, the government has a compelling interest in everything you put into your body.

Odd. Nations with better universal healthcare coverage for longer periods seem to care a lot less about policing individual lifestyle's than your nation does.

The war on drugs has existed a lot longer than universal healthcare in your country as well.


And there is a decent argument that it should be unconstitutional. But, the precedent is not there because a myriad of similar social programs have already been challenged and upheld based on how everything in the world may eventually affect everything.
Freeeeeeedom
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
September 15 2015 10:19 GMT
#45837
Bernie at Liberty University is about as much of a lion's den as a liberal or socialist (or non-Christian) can find, and I think that given the situation, he dealt with the Abortion question reasonably well. Not perfect by any means, but he didn't get booed and got a few small cheers. I just wish he would have hit his final point home with a clever statement summarizing his point, like "If you truly want to be in support of Life, that doesn't mean you give up on helping babies once they're born... you shouldn't just help children into this world and then leave them to suffer in poverty. Because that's not truly being Pro-Life; that's just being Pro-Birth and then not caring about what happens to them afterwards."



The video clip is from this article: http://deadstate.org/watch-bernie-sanders-slams-gop-pro-life-hypocrisy-on-front-of-thousands-at-christian-university/
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 15 2015 14:35 GMT
#45838
On September 15 2015 13:19 KwarK wrote:
I'm amazed someone as illiterate as whatisthisasheep considers himself one of the elite. I'm desperately hoping he's just a child of rich parents whose prep school education was somehow unable to teach him the difference between too, two and to, or there, their and they're.

Ironic, since one of the salient features of the elite is to look down on the masses and call them illiterate. Their unpolished views on immigration, economic freedoms, and self-government make them so. Elites hold the fiction that they advance the interests of the lower classes, and therefore must consider their opposition not sufficiently poor and marginalized for their notice.

If it wasn't endemic to the GOP ruling class, they wouldn't have a Trump problem.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 15 2015 14:42 GMT
#45839
On September 15 2015 23:35 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 13:19 KwarK wrote:
I'm amazed someone as illiterate as whatisthisasheep considers himself one of the elite. I'm desperately hoping he's just a child of rich parents whose prep school education was somehow unable to teach him the difference between too, two and to, or there, their and they're.

Ironic, since one of the salient features of the elite is to look down on the masses and call them illiterate. Their unpolished views on immigration, economic freedoms, and self-government make them so. Elites hold the fiction that they advance the interests of the lower classes, and therefore must consider their opposition not sufficiently poor and marginalized for their notice.

If it wasn't endemic to the GOP ruling class, they wouldn't have a Trump problem.


Projecting much? KwarK called sheep illiterate because he cannot communicate effectively. Don't read into it too much. The guy's posts are a garbled mess 100% of the time. Illiterate may be a stretch, since he can obviously read, but not by much.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42654 Posts
September 15 2015 14:45 GMT
#45840
On September 15 2015 23:35 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 13:19 KwarK wrote:
I'm amazed someone as illiterate as whatisthisasheep considers himself one of the elite. I'm desperately hoping he's just a child of rich parents whose prep school education was somehow unable to teach him the difference between too, two and to, or there, their and they're.

Ironic, since one of the salient features of the elite is to look down on the masses and call them illiterate. Their unpolished views on immigration, economic freedoms, and self-government make them so. Elites hold the fiction that they advance the interests of the lower classes, and therefore must consider their opposition not sufficiently poor and marginalized for their notice.

If it wasn't endemic to the GOP ruling class, they wouldn't have a Trump problem.

Hardly ironic, I'll freely admit to being an elitist. My parents are university graduates, I was privately educated, went to grammar schools and then university. In my home nation I'd easily be upper middle class and I'll deny neither my intelligence nor my privilege. But whatisthisasheep can barely string a coherent sentence together and yet seems to see himself as one of America's oppressed upper classes who bootstrapped his way up to the top only to be robbed of his achievements by the envy of those less talented than himself. I'm really struggling to see how someone who would need to employ full time help to proofread any email he were to send out professionally sees himself that way. Surely it can't be due to his own personal success, hence my conclusion that his delusion is rooted in vicarious family success.
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