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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 07 2015 01:52 GMT
#43201
"you don't owe me no tithes" oh Ben...
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 07 2015 01:53 GMT
#43202
I really like Dr. Carson in general, but damn is he not a convincing speaker. Looks bland compared to the others up there.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
August 07 2015 01:58 GMT
#43203
There are some really bad talking points they trained on. Walker has been to look at the border, so he's an expert on immigration? :/ Christie makes everything about 9/11? Pretty bad...
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5083 Posts
August 07 2015 02:01 GMT
#43204
tbh there isn't enough time, they just say something they can get out in 30 seconds. I'm still amused by this though. Much more entertaining than I anticipated.

Poor Carson though. I've said it before- he's simply too nice of a person. He's not combative. Stick to the brain.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:03 GMT
#43205
Only in the US would part of the political spectrum consider secular to be a bad word.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:04 GMT
#43206
Bush stumbling again.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24505 Posts
August 07 2015 02:05 GMT
#43207
Jeb just killed my beer in one answer... This is getting rough.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Refused.
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
August 07 2015 02:05 GMT
#43208
A black man running for president blaming progressive policies for our problems....unbelievable
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 02:09:09
August 07 2015 02:05 GMT
#43209
On August 07 2015 11:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
Jeb just killed my beer in one answer... This is getting rough.


Don't complain, I'm wine on drunk

EDIT: oops
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:06 GMT
#43210
Worst part of the answer was the spirit. You heard him workers believe the growth will happen!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:10 GMT
#43211
Pimps, Prostitutes, Immigrants they're all free loaders!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
August 07 2015 02:10 GMT
#43212
Christie vs. Huckabee was interesting. Wtf was that about pimps and drug dealers?! :'D
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 02:14:04
August 07 2015 02:12 GMT
#43213
It's a tiny bit old but I love when people say theuir going to get rid of the department of education. that'll help our test scores.

also i love how hugging the president is now an insult.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24505 Posts
August 07 2015 02:12 GMT
#43214
People do realize a flat tax raises taxes on homeless veterans and working children right?

Slapped Wallace down lol.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
August 07 2015 02:13 GMT
#43215
the two old religious dudes seem pretty cool, everybody else just sounds insane
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 07 2015 02:13 GMT
#43216
On August 07 2015 11:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Pimps, Prostitutes, Immigrants they're all free loaders!


You forgot drug dealers SB!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:13 GMT
#43217
Fox again tried to deflate Trump, and it doesn't work.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
August 07 2015 02:13 GMT
#43218
On August 07 2015 10:20 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 10:14 Yoav wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:49 KwarK wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:40 Yoav wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:17 KwarK wrote:Amazingly enough the bible actually makes a distinction between the value of a human life and the value of an unborn human, which it judges as being lower. But for those of us who don't rely upon the judgements of stone age Jews for morality, which includes both people like myself and also the entire pro-life lobby, that's not really relevant.
...
Exodus 21:22 states that causing a woman to have a miscarriage is not treated as murder. Instead the father of the unborn will exact a price from the party that caused the miscarriage which has to be approved as reasonable by the judges.


You're right on the point from Hebrew Law, and you even nod at the fact that Christians don't use it as the source of moral instruction except insofar as it contrasts with other contemporary codes. But let's try to be a little accurate on the history. The oldest parts of Hebrew Law are bronze age, so "stone age" is off by a good few millennia.

You're assuming there is no oral history predating the Bible. Given that the Bible goes back all the way to the foundation of the earth 7000 years ago that's a little silly. There had to be oral history predating the written Bible and it had to go all the way back through the stone age because otherwise how would the bronze age people have known about the creation of the earth? We know they lived for hundreds of years but even so none of them lived long enough to remember about creation.


I'm assuming no such thing. Just saying that you can't dismiss Hebrew ideas as "stone age" because that's a gross oversimplification of the history.

Either the bible is real or its not.
If its not real then its no more a guide for morality then the Ikea catalog.
If it is real then God surely told people how to live before the bronze age. And God being all knowing he is unlikely to change his world views on a regular basis, therefor making it a reasonable assumption that they are indeed 'Stone Age' idea's.


Yeah, that's not how Christianity works. Sure, some kinds of Judaism say that's how it works, but Christianity believes that while God is unchanging, humanity is really shitty at fully understanding God's messages, causing God to have to baby-step us along to the real answers. That's the whole point for the Old Testament (prepping us to be able to understand Jesus)
e.g.:
God: Slavery is bad.
Humans: So if I expel my slaves into the desert, you'll look after them? (Abraham)
God: No, slavery is bad.
Humans: So, Jews shouldn't be slaves in Egypt? (Moses)
God: No, you dumb shits, slavery is bad.
Humans: So we should release slaves after they work for us for seven years, providing for them financially afterwards? (Hebrew Law)
God: Did I fucking stutter? Slavery is bad.
Humans: So I should release my slaves and let them join my household as equals? (Philemon)
God: Finally. I'm gonna go get a beer.

On August 07 2015 10:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Is it safe to say that John Kasich is the Huntsman of 2016?


Yes, and I'm rooting for him as Rep. candidate on those grounds.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 07 2015 02:15 GMT
#43219
let's label everything the progressive movement and say its bad without giving any reasons.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2015 02:15 GMT
#43220
Breaking: Schumer comes out against Iran deal.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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