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A woman scaled a flagpole in front of the South Carolina Statehouse on Saturday morning and removed the Confederate battle flag.
The woman was identified as “Bree” in a news release by activist group Blackbird, an organization that was helping out with press but did not facilitate the event itself. She did not act alone, but was part of a larger group of activists who wanted to see the flag come down. Bree is black, but the group she was part of is multiracial, according to the release.
"We removed the flag today because we can't wait any longer,” Bree said in a statement. “We can't continue like this another day. It's time for a new chapter where we are sincere about dismantling white supremacy and building toward true racial justice and equality.”
The woman made it about halfway up the pole when authorities commanded her to come down, but she continued to go up and remove the flag, which was padlocked in place. She was arrested, along with a man and a woman who accompanied her to the Statehouse grounds in Columbia.
Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
Not setting himself on fire is kinda expected. There's no tradition of self-immolation protest in America. It's also not an issue really worth immolation over. Also, it woulda been a good publicity stunt to get one of those specialty suits for lighting yourself on fire that they use for movie stunts and light himself up (safely of course).
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Not everyone who likes the flag is racist though. Yes racists do adhere to it as a symbol, and therefore it is a problem, but a lot of people also identify with that flag and the Confederacy because that's the side that their ancestors fought for.
Yeah, well their ancestors lost and were traitors, so fuck them, to be entirely honest. The losers don't get to set the rules. Adding in the fact that those ancestors were motivated by a defense of slavery just makes it worse. This is what happens when you let states set their own education curriculum, particularly those states that have clearly demonstrated their inability to teach their own people history.
On June 28 2015 08:01 farvacola wrote: Yeah, well their ancestors lost and were traitors, so fuck them, to be entirely honest. The losers don't get to set the rules. Adding in the fact that those ancestors were motivated by a defense of slavery just makes it worse. This is what happens when you let states set their own education curriculum, states that have clearly demonstrated their inability to teach their people history.
So the strong should culturally and historically erase the weak?
That's, uh...just as stupid as people clinging to a lost war.
On June 28 2015 08:01 farvacola wrote: Yeah, well their ancestors lost and were traitors, so fuck them, to be entirely honest. The losers don't get to set the rules. Adding in the fact that those ancestors were motivated by a defense of slavery just makes it worse. This is what happens when you let states set their own education curriculum, states that have clearly demonstrated their inability to teach their people history.
So the strong should culturally and historically erase the weak?
That's, uh...just as stupid as people clinging to a lost war.
Nowhere did I say "culturally and historically erase," though you seem to have read that into "set the rules." Well, that's nonsense; there's a big reason why traditionally Northern states and those that vote Democrat in presidential elections have better performing education systems (with natural variation among urban centers) practically across the board.
The only people doing any erasing are those who pass textbook changes like those in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
On June 28 2015 08:01 farvacola wrote: Yeah, well their ancestors lost and were traitors, so fuck them, to be entirely honest. The losers don't get to set the rules. Adding in the fact that those ancestors were motivated by a defense of slavery just makes it worse. This is what happens when you let states set their own education curriculum, states that have clearly demonstrated their inability to teach their people history.
So the strong should culturally and historically erase the weak?
That's, uh...just as stupid as people clinging to a lost war.
Nowhere did I say "culturally and historically erase," though you seem to have read that into "set the rules." Well, that's nonsense; there's a big reason why traditionally Northern states and those that vote Democrat in presidential elections have better performing education systems (with natural variation among urban centers) practically across the board.
The only people doing any erasing are those who pass textbook changes like those in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
I actually didn't see your edit, and your initial post had nothing to do with education.
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Not everyone who likes the flag is racist though. Yes racists do adhere to it as a symbol, and therefore it is a problem, but a lot of people also identify with that flag and the Confederacy because that's the side that their ancestors fought for.
well if your ancestors were racists or fought for a racist government you probably shouldn't celebrate your ancestry.
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Are racists that powerful in the states? Do people really find the argument "You can't fly that flag, a racist crazy guy that posed with it killed a whole bunch people in church", so compelling?
Sounds more like people are just running high on emotions.
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Are racists that powerful in the states? Do people really find the argument "You can't fly that flag, a racist crazy guy that posed with it killed a whole bunch people in church", so compelling?
Sounds more like people are just running high on emotions.
Sounds like people with no clue are making assumptions based on their ignorance.
On June 28 2015 08:01 farvacola wrote: Yeah, well their ancestors lost and were traitors, so fuck them, to be entirely honest. The losers don't get to set the rules. Adding in the fact that those ancestors were motivated by a defense of slavery just makes it worse. This is what happens when you let states set their own education curriculum, states that have clearly demonstrated their inability to teach their people history.
So the strong should culturally and historically erase the weak?
That's, uh...just as stupid as people clinging to a lost war.
Nowhere did I say "culturally and historically erase," though you seem to have read that into "set the rules." Well, that's nonsense; there's a big reason why traditionally Northern states and those that vote Democrat in presidential elections have better performing education systems (with natural variation among urban centers) practically across the board.
The only people doing any erasing are those who pass textbook changes like those in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
I actually didn't see your edit, and your initial post had nothing to do with education.
If I can sneak the edit in before anyone else can quote it, then it counts Nevertheless, the mods can see every edit made so no one can hide in the end.
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Are racists that powerful in the states? Do people really find the argument "You can't fly that flag, a racist crazy guy that posed with it killed a whole bunch people in church", so compelling?
Sounds more like people are just running high on emotions.
"You can't fly that flag (which stands for a government that fought to maintain slavery), a racist crazy guy that posed with it killed a whole bunch people in church"
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Not everyone who likes the flag is racist though. Yes racists do adhere to it as a symbol, and therefore it is a problem, but a lot of people also identify with that flag and the Confederacy because that's the side that their ancestors fought for.
My ancestors fought for Hitler. Maybe some peole shouldn't admire their ancestors
On June 28 2015 05:22 killa_robot wrote: Kind of funny how people need big issues to happen to actually care about things. What the flag represents has never changed, yet only now people are like "I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER", to take it down, lol.
Seems like people just following whatever is popular at the time.
People have been talking about it for decades, it was just finally too loud to ignore. Also because of all the attention, the person might not get the book thrown at them like they might have otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.
Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?
How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?
Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?
It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.
Reminds me of any other moral panic.
Now, sure, it shouldn't have been flying over the city hall (nor should any non-official flag), and it has negative connotations associated with it.
But I don't see how saying "this shooter liked a flag, ban the flag!" is any less asinine than "this shooter played Call of Duty, ban Call of Duty!"
The confederate flag and Call of Duty are not even remotely comparable in the way that you are trying to compare them and misled outrage.
Suffice it to say, you just don't understand the issue so of course it doesn't make sense to you.
Gee then, thanks then for taking the time to make people understand how lashing out at an inanimate symbol is such an important matter.
I don't see how this is remotely different than any other moral panic ever. Video games make kids violent. D&D turns children into satanists. Rock & Roll is making everyone have sex. Flags are making people racist.
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