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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2014 23:57 GMT
#26881
since euros hate murica so much they'll be fine with fending for themselves. america should look towards asia
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 15 2014 00:08 GMT
#26882
All career Officers dread budget cutbacks as it means their pet projects can be put on the chopping block. Besides the US is starting to get back into is isolation mindset abandoned after WWII so Europe can complain all they want as it will soon be on them to foot the European portion of the NATO bill and handle situations in close areas such as the Balkans, Africa etc.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 15 2014 00:18 GMT
#26883
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has blocked Texas from enforcing key parts of a 2013 law that would close all but eight of the state's abortion facilities.

The justices largely granted the request of abortion providers Tuesday. With three dissenting votes, the court suspended a ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that allowed Texas to enforce a rule making abortion clinics statewide spend millions of dollars on hospital-level upgrades.

The appeals court's ruling suspended an August decision by U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel, who found that such upgrades were less about safety than making access to abortion difficult.


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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14135 Posts
October 15 2014 01:15 GMT
#26884
we could call up the militia and have a better armed military then most nations.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 01:36:05
October 15 2014 01:34 GMT
#26885
The story starts simply enough: African-Americans and Hispanics across Georgia were registered to vote at levels lower than their white state-mates, so the New Georgia Project was started by the non-profit Third Sector Development to register new voters, concentrating on minority communities.

And that is exactly what the New Georgia Project did.

Over the last few months, the group submitted some 80,000 voter registration forms to the Georgia secretary of state's office — but as of last week, about half those new registrants, more than 40,000 Georgians, were still not listed on preliminary voter rolls. And there is no public record of those 40,000-plus applications, according to State Representative Stacey Adams, a Democrat.

Oh, yeah, did we mention: Georgia's Secretary of State Brain Kemp is a Republican.

The secretary's office says they are not doing anything different than usual in processing the voter applications. These things take time, they say. (Apparently months and months of time — as that is how long some of those forms have been sitting with the state without being processed.)

That's Kemp's story, and he's sticking to it … except this is also Kemp's story:

In closing I just wanted to tell you real quick, after we get through this runoff, you know the Democrats are working hard, and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines, if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. But we’ve got to do the exact same thing. I would encourage all of you, if you have an Android or an Apple device, to download that app, and maybe your goal is to register one new Republican voter.

Kemp said that in July, and in September, Kemp announced he was launching a fraud investigation into the registration drive, though the secretary's office has not produced a reason as to why the state suspects fraud.

September was also the month when the Republican whip of the state Senate complained that DeKalb County, Ga., was making it too easy for minorities to vote by allowing early voting in an area mall close to many predominantly African-American churches. The whip, state Sen. Fran Millar, announced at the time that he was "investigating if there is any way to stop this action."


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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23982 Posts
October 15 2014 02:38 GMT
#26886
On October 15 2014 10:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
The story starts simply enough: African-Americans and Hispanics across Georgia were registered to vote at levels lower than their white state-mates, so the New Georgia Project was started by the non-profit Third Sector Development to register new voters, concentrating on minority communities.

And that is exactly what the New Georgia Project did.

Over the last few months, the group submitted some 80,000 voter registration forms to the Georgia secretary of state's office — but as of last week, about half those new registrants, more than 40,000 Georgians, were still not listed on preliminary voter rolls. And there is no public record of those 40,000-plus applications, according to State Representative Stacey Adams, a Democrat.

Oh, yeah, did we mention: Georgia's Secretary of State Brain Kemp is a Republican.

The secretary's office says they are not doing anything different than usual in processing the voter applications. These things take time, they say. (Apparently months and months of time — as that is how long some of those forms have been sitting with the state without being processed.)

That's Kemp's story, and he's sticking to it … except this is also Kemp's story:

In closing I just wanted to tell you real quick, after we get through this runoff, you know the Democrats are working hard, and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines, if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. But we’ve got to do the exact same thing. I would encourage all of you, if you have an Android or an Apple device, to download that app, and maybe your goal is to register one new Republican voter.

Kemp said that in July, and in September, Kemp announced he was launching a fraud investigation into the registration drive, though the secretary's office has not produced a reason as to why the state suspects fraud.

September was also the month when the Republican whip of the state Senate complained that DeKalb County, Ga., was making it too easy for minorities to vote by allowing early voting in an area mall close to many predominantly African-American churches. The whip, state Sen. Fran Millar, announced at the time that he was "investigating if there is any way to stop this action."


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Race relations in Georgia are especially disgusting... Though I guess this qualifies as getting better?

From April of this year... Yeah... This year....

Last week, for the first time in decades, students from Wilcox County, Georgia, attended a school-sponsored prom that was open to all students rather than a private, racially segregated prom.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/04/living/integrated-prom-wilcox-county-georgia/

Are there still reasonable people thinking there isn't a blatant attempt from republicans to disenfranchise black voters and other democratic leaning groups going on...?

Republicans are going to be responsible for intentionally disenfranchising record numbers of voters in an attempt to prevent something they can't even find happening (certainly not to any degree that would warrant how many legitimate voters they will be attempting to restrict).

At least Paul attempted to call Republicans out on it, the rest that stay silent disgust me.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 04:23:56
October 15 2014 02:52 GMT
#26887
On October 15 2014 08:38 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 08:17 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Odierno Warns Budget Cuts Puts Army Readiness at Risk

The U.S. Army's top officer spoke in his strongest terms yet about the harmful effects of automatic budget cuts on the military.

In comments that seemed directed more at lawmakers than soldiers, Army Chief of Staff Gen. Raymond Odierno said the service faces significant long-term challenges because of across-the-board spending reductions known as sequestration.

"Frankly, as I stand here, military risk is accumulating exponentially," he said during a speech on Tuesday at an annual conference in Washington, D.C., organized by the Association of the United States Army.

"We are reducing the size of our ground forces, we are not fully resourcing required readiness, and we are slashing our modernization and procurement programs," Odierno told a crowd of mostly military members and defense industry officials. "In my opinion, this is a time we should be increasing those investments. We should be reinvesting in order to rebuild and sustain a force capable of conducting the full range of operations."

Defense reductions will account for about half of the $1.2 trillion in decade-long spending cuts mandated by the 2011 Budget Control Act. While Congress agreed to undo some of those reductions in fiscal 2014 and 2015, the cuts are set to return in full in fiscal 2016.

After growing in size to 570,000 soldiers in 2008 at the height of the war in Iraq, the Army has about 510,000 soldiers today, according to Pentagon figures, and is on pace to shrink to 490,000 soldiers in fiscal 2015. It's bracing for even further contraction driven by sequestration and an end to the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where some 9,800 American troops will be serving by year's end.

The service's end strength is slated to decrease to 440,000-450,000 soldiers by 2017. If automatic budget cuts remain in effect, the number may fall to as low as 420,000 soldiers -- tens of thousands less than what Odierno has said is needed to adequately respond to conflicts around the world.
...

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/10/14/odierno-warns-budget-cuts-puts-army-readiness-at-risk.html

We have 300 million guns. We don't even need a military for defense.

And half of them can't even walk properly.

The primary issue is that we are extremely inefficient with military spending and management. Military gets a use-it-or-lose-it budget and all the contractors and companies they have to buy everything from know this, and jack up the prices on everything. The most ridiculous thing I've been told by guys still in the military wasn't even arms/equipment related. Itr was $50,000 printers sold to the air force that are probably like $300ish in the store XD.

Honestly, with better management and without the ungodly overpricing from defense companies and other organizations the military buys from, the military could do everything it does now with a $200 billion budget.

On October 15 2014 09:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
All career Officers dread budget cutbacks as it means their pet projects can be put on the chopping block. Besides the US is starting to get back into is isolation mindset abandoned after WWII so Europe can complain all they want as it will soon be on them to foot the European portion of the NATO bill and handle situations in close areas such as the Balkans, Africa etc.

I'm guessing we have some serious problems that we'd be willing to give up our hegemony, especially in Europe.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 15 2014 03:29 GMT
#26888
On October 15 2014 10:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
The story starts simply enough: African-Americans and Hispanics across Georgia were registered to vote at levels lower than their white state-mates, so the New Georgia Project was started by the non-profit Third Sector Development to register new voters, concentrating on minority communities.

And that is exactly what the New Georgia Project did.

Over the last few months, the group submitted some 80,000 voter registration forms to the Georgia secretary of state's office — but as of last week, about half those new registrants, more than 40,000 Georgians, were still not listed on preliminary voter rolls. And there is no public record of those 40,000-plus applications, according to State Representative Stacey Adams, a Democrat.

Oh, yeah, did we mention: Georgia's Secretary of State Brain Kemp is a Republican.

The secretary's office says they are not doing anything different than usual in processing the voter applications. These things take time, they say. (Apparently months and months of time — as that is how long some of those forms have been sitting with the state without being processed.)

That's Kemp's story, and he's sticking to it … except this is also Kemp's story:

In closing I just wanted to tell you real quick, after we get through this runoff, you know the Democrats are working hard, and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines, if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. But we’ve got to do the exact same thing. I would encourage all of you, if you have an Android or an Apple device, to download that app, and maybe your goal is to register one new Republican voter.

Kemp said that in July, and in September, Kemp announced he was launching a fraud investigation into the registration drive, though the secretary's office has not produced a reason as to why the state suspects fraud.

September was also the month when the Republican whip of the state Senate complained that DeKalb County, Ga., was making it too easy for minorities to vote by allowing early voting in an area mall close to many predominantly African-American churches. The whip, state Sen. Fran Millar, announced at the time that he was "investigating if there is any way to stop this action."


Source
Are we stepping down from news articles into blog posts doing masquerade? Kids, get seated in a circle, as I tell you the story of the evil Republican governor and the millions of innocent citizens in his state! Not every allegation of injustice from a Democrat-leaning voter group deserves such a yellow journalism tale of villainy.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
October 15 2014 03:57 GMT
#26889
On October 15 2014 12:29 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 10:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The story starts simply enough: African-Americans and Hispanics across Georgia were registered to vote at levels lower than their white state-mates, so the New Georgia Project was started by the non-profit Third Sector Development to register new voters, concentrating on minority communities.

And that is exactly what the New Georgia Project did.

Over the last few months, the group submitted some 80,000 voter registration forms to the Georgia secretary of state's office — but as of last week, about half those new registrants, more than 40,000 Georgians, were still not listed on preliminary voter rolls. And there is no public record of those 40,000-plus applications, according to State Representative Stacey Adams, a Democrat.

Oh, yeah, did we mention: Georgia's Secretary of State Brain Kemp is a Republican.

The secretary's office says they are not doing anything different than usual in processing the voter applications. These things take time, they say. (Apparently months and months of time — as that is how long some of those forms have been sitting with the state without being processed.)

That's Kemp's story, and he's sticking to it … except this is also Kemp's story:

In closing I just wanted to tell you real quick, after we get through this runoff, you know the Democrats are working hard, and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines, if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. But we’ve got to do the exact same thing. I would encourage all of you, if you have an Android or an Apple device, to download that app, and maybe your goal is to register one new Republican voter.

Kemp said that in July, and in September, Kemp announced he was launching a fraud investigation into the registration drive, though the secretary's office has not produced a reason as to why the state suspects fraud.

September was also the month when the Republican whip of the state Senate complained that DeKalb County, Ga., was making it too easy for minorities to vote by allowing early voting in an area mall close to many predominantly African-American churches. The whip, state Sen. Fran Millar, announced at the time that he was "investigating if there is any way to stop this action."


Source
Are we stepping down from news articles into blog posts doing masquerade? Kids, get seated in a circle, as I tell you the story of the evil Republican governor and the millions of innocent citizens in his state! Not every allegation of injustice from a Democrat-leaning voter group deserves such a yellow journalism tale of villainy.


I'm just going to reiterate that you post stuff exactly like that all the time, except with a different ideological perspective.
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
October 15 2014 05:06 GMT
#26890
On October 15 2014 08:44 KwarK wrote:
Fortunately we'll be able to set the police on the enemy. They've been training pretty hard.

You obviously haven't seen any cops recently.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
October 15 2014 11:57 GMT
#26891
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/12-charts-that-show-the-permanent-damage-that-has-been-done-to-the-u-s-economy

Interesting charts on an otherwise pretty bad website.
Comments also interesting,mostly the one about the velocity.
Velocity needs to go up but if velocity goes up inflation will go through the roof. So can make m2 smaller and raise velocity but that will still be a zero sum game. Its like a catch 22, no way out.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 15:26:29
October 15 2014 15:25 GMT
#26892
Well I can't believe I'm 1 year into a house, I paid points to get the rate down... and I'm within the realm of possiblity of refiniancing.

*** edit WTF 2.08% 10-year?
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 16:15:39
October 15 2014 16:13 GMT
#26893
It's funny, the Fed "tapering" its bond buying program was supposed to send rates soaring! Treasury 10 year notes are down to ~2% on the low side.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 15 2014 16:39 GMT
#26894
The interim nuclear accord negotiated between Iran and six world powers almost a year ago de-escalated a standoff that once seemed headed for a military confrontation: Seeking sanctions relief, Iran has eliminated the stockpile of 20 percent enriched uranium that could more rapidly be converted to bomb materiel, and has stopped enrichment to that grade; it has trimmed its supply of low-enriched uranium and has accepted more intrusive international inspections.

Meetings between U.S. and Iranian officials have become more commonplace, and the two sides have even tacitly cooperated in helping the Iraqi government fend off the threat of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant movement. But that interim agreement expires on Nov. 24, and as U.S. and Iranian negotiators who reconvened in Vienna on Tuesday face a number of major obstacles in their six-week race to conclude a final agreement.

Secretary of State John Kerry meets his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif on Wednesday, along with European Union foreign policy head Catherine Ashton. That meeting will be followed later in the week by a gathering of representatives from the so-called P5+1 group — the United States, France, Germany, China, Russia and the United Kingdom — which has been negotiating with Iran.

Last November’s deal had actually set a July deadline for a final agreement, but that was postponed for four months when the two sides expressed confidence in being able to reach a deal if given further time. But while Iranian and U.S. officials remain publicly optimistic, serious gaps remain between the demands of the two sides, and many officials and analysts question whether a permanent accord can be reach by the deadline.

“It is almost certain that a full-fledged agreement by Nov. 24 is no longer in the cards,” said Ali Vaez, a senior Iran analyst with the International Crisis Group, in an email. “What is still possible is a breakthrough that could justify adding more time to the diplomatic clock.”

Gary Samore, a former Obama administration official involved with negotiations and now at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, echoed that view.

“I expect an effort will be made, as we get down to the deadline, to see if there's a basis for another partial agreement,” Samore said in an interview with the Council on Foreign Relations. “Both sides will have an interest in trying to see whether it's possible to work out an extension, because the status quo, even though it's not perfect, is certainly tolerable,” he said.


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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2014 18:15 GMT
#26895
skunk works at lockheed martin revealed a new fusion reactor design with 10x the power to mass ratio of the big ITER project.

http://aviationweek.com/technology/skunk-works-reveals-compact-fusion-reactor-details

with how nuclear regulation works expect a game changing technology in 5 years and approval in 50 years.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 18:29:12
October 15 2014 18:28 GMT
#26896
Billionaire Tom Steyer's political group NextGen Climate is going to try to shame climate skeptics into changing their stance on global warming in a final midterm push before November.

NextGen is running a "science denier week" with events planned in the Senate and gubernatorial races it is involved in across the country.

"Today we are issuing a specific challenge to deniers, giving them one last time to come clean before voters vote," said Chris Lehane, Steyer's top adviser.

The "Stone Age Challenge" will ask candidates if they want to "protect the communities you represent" or "continue to support caveman-like policies from the Stone Age."

Lehane said this is the last chance NextGen will afford Senate candidates like Rep. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) and Terri Lyn Land (R-Mich.) the opportunity to change their stance on climate science before sending out a final barrage of attacks that will reach voters by TV, radio, emails, flyers, and door-to-door canvassing.

During the "science denier week," NextGen will issue a report called the "Stone Age," which documents every instance throughout the midterm cycle that a candidate denied the science behind climate change, or that it was caused by human activity.

There will also be a number of "teachings," Lehane said, in certain states where GOP candidates will be invited to participate in a town-hall forum with people to discuss climate change.


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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 15 2014 19:07 GMT
#26897
On October 16 2014 03:15 oneofthem wrote:
skunk works at lockheed martin revealed a new fusion reactor design with 10x the power to mass ratio of the big ITER project.

http://aviationweek.com/technology/skunk-works-reveals-compact-fusion-reactor-details

with how nuclear regulation works expect a game changing technology in 5 years and approval in 50 years.

Normally, I would agree, but with the rate that we're improving prototyping tools, I could very well see them having some very promising work done in ~5 years. I'm talking working prototype (unless they lack fuel).
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2014 19:50 GMT
#26898
im optimistic about their development cycle, it is a smaller device, but seems like it will be military use first then civilian use will come way later due to red tape on nuclear energy.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 15 2014 19:57 GMT
#26899
Fusion is different than fission. Not nearly as much to throw into NIMBY ideals.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 21:30:39
October 15 2014 21:23 GMT
#26900
On October 16 2014 01:13 aksfjh wrote:
It's funny, the Fed "tapering" its bond buying program was supposed to send rates soaring! Treasury 10 year notes are down to ~2% on the low side.

Because of weak economic indicators causing money to flow from stocks to safe bonds. The real economy has a massive impact on asset allocation whatever the monetary policy may be.

not to mention there still being an incredibly low interest environment in nearly all financial centers.
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