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Alright, I know I played like shit this game, but there's got to be more to it. I opened 1 Rax FE, delayed my CC to wall him off, just for lols, expanded, dropped 3 barracks for pure marines, doubled my gas, went immediately for mech, tanks, marines, hellions, eventually ravens with HSM. My micro was fuckin' awful, but my k/d still evened out much higher than his due to so much aoe on my part I'd say.
By the time he hit me with Mutalisks I knew it was over, he didn't know how to micro them, so I got lucky, he killed like a whole 6 scvs. I accounted for the Mutalisks, and made me some good ol' turrets. I did some trollzy stuff I wouldn't usually do in a ladder, like take his 3rd, etc, but I think the game came down to my shit micro, I had some pretty stout tech leads on him the entire time, I just couldn't manage to push into his natural. Once I saw the lings at my third I knew the game was over, that's why I didn't bother to pull them earlier.
http://drop.sc/252043
How could I have won this game.
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your micro was shit and fucking awful, and the things you did were really trollzy .. and you are wondering?
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Alright, I know I played like shit this game [...]
How could I have won this game.
Don't play like shit. Retard.
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Kids, don't hate.
The message is correct, but I don't think you need to speak to him like this. You are not his superior in any way.
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On September 14 2012 04:11 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Kids, don't hate.
The message is correct, but I don't think you need to speak to him like this. You are not his superior in any way.
I apologize. You are right. So much facepalm though.
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Not trying to be a dick but if you know what your problem was, then focus on your problem and play more games. If you think you have fixed your problem and still dont know why you lost, then make a help thread.
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Stop making stupid ass comments, you're all making this site look bad.
Other than my micro, I don't know why I lost.
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If you split your marines and seiged up in a better position, your first push would have killed him.
There are so many strange and stupid things in this game I'm not sure there's not much point analysing it further.
Why do you ebay block his natural?
Why are you only taking your third at 15 minutes?
Why are you taking a random base across the map?
Why don't you split your marines?
Where are your medivacs?
Why don't you respond to muta in your main?
Why are you making ravens?
Where are your bio armor upgrades?
Why are you going double armory, but not going mech?
Why do you queue up 10 supply depots after getting supply blocked?
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Okay, I went mech, that's why double armories, that's why marine DPS. I think that's pretty simple, armor is the weaker upgrade, so I took damage.
Idk why I made Ravens, I was experimenting.
I took his 3rd for fun, to see if I coulda pf'd it and stopped his expand to that base.
I ebay walled him to slow his economy, once again just for fun, I could have won had I 2 raxed and ebay walled but I wanted to macro up.
I don't know why I didn't split, just stupidity by me.
I made 10 at once so I would no longer have to make them, pretty fail but, just a safe so I don't forget.
I didn't defend the mutas because I knew the game was already over at that point, I couldn't secure my 3rd and 4th bases.
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You lost for many reasons-
-your build made no sense what so ever
-your upgrades were terribad
-2 based pretty much most the game
-didnt micro army for shit
-I know I said this but god the build... just so dumb. Just go for standard marine tank or bio and dont be a retard with the gimmicks.
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Ok. I have decided to do a video on this. Much of what was mentioned above is in it, but I think adding the visual of watching the replay while the suggestions hit, will help.
Not my best cast ever, but hey.
http://www.twitch.tv/niteshadesc2/b/332078972
Best,
Niteshade
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did some trollzy stuff I wouldn't usually do in a ladder, like take his 3rd, etc, but I think the game came down to my shit micro
So...why do you need TL's help? Youve created many help me threads and all of them say "i suck" "my micro" sucks, etc, etc, etc. You post a replay where you do trollzy things and want advice? how about you put up a replay where you feel you played your best and still lost, which is what the strategy guidelines ask for.
Edit: Every single one of your threads has a mod telling you that you need to read the strategy guidelines. Im guessing youre trollzy yourself.
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I feel like you already know the answer to why you lost...
"did some trollzy stuff I wouldn't usually do in a ladder, like take his 3rd, etc, but I think the game came down to my shit micro"
I agree with all the posters who said stuff like "if you played like a troll, no shit you lost". TL strategy guidelines say to put down a replay where you played somewhere in the vicinity of your best. I don't think this game is indicative of that.
I'll watch the replay and analyze, but I already feel like I know why you lost.
EDIT: I also took a brief glance through all of your last posts, and it's all threads that are filled with balance whine, "my micro sucks" "i played so much better than my opponent" "my macro was better" "my play was really good, don't see how i could have lost" shit like that. Just stop.
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pretty sure OP doesn't even deserve a "0/10" response but i just want to reply to the other people actually trying to respond to this thread and say that if you're curious what trollfood actually looks like in real life just pick up that mirror
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Have a clear plan and you'll be in a much better position.
When you push out with primarily marines and only a few mech units, what tech do you have finished/nearly finished? Siege Mode and +1 vehicle weapons. You only have a total of 7 mech units. Furthermore, all of your relevant aggressive tech isn't close being finish or not started (combat shield, +1 infanty attack, stimpack)
You've said in the thread that your intention was to go mech. Go mech, then! Go with 1 barracks to produce early marines and stay alive and go nuts with factory units/tech. Don't build more barracks. Don't build addons to the barracks. Don't research marine upgrades. Just go mech.
On the flipside, if you want to go marine-tank and hit a 2 base timing (which is what you were closer to in that replay) then get the necessary upgrades to allow you be successful with your aggression. Get the tech lab barracks earlier so you can have stim + CS before you push out.
I'm sure that if you just focused your spending that you could have had a much more nasty push 2-3 minutes earlier by just being more efficient with your money. This requires no micro, just planning.
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On September 14 2012 06:29 netherh wrote:
If you split your marines and seiged up in a better position, your first push would have killed him.
There are so many strange and stupid things in this game I'm not sure there's not much point analysing it further.
Why do you ebay block his natural?
Why are you only taking your third at 15 minutes?
Why are you taking a random base across the map?
Why don't you split your marines?
Where are your medivacs?
Why don't you respond to muta in your main?
Why are you making ravens?
Where are your bio armor upgrades?
Why are you going double armory, but not going mech?
Why do you queue up 10 supply depots after getting supply blocked?
This!! You must ask yourself the tough questions. In fact, if everybody asked themselves these questions, these threads would disappear :o
All of these questions are correct. 7 of them are econ questions... and answering one often links to another one. You'll get there 
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You didn't expand fast enough, you position your tanks improperly, your upgrades were strange/delayed. Rather than focus in depth on that game I would just try not to mess around as much as you did and just find a credible metagame build order here on TL and follow it until you feel comfortable with it.
That being said, if you had 1/1 bio upgrades when you pushed out the first time you would have crushed that army.
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I might have missed it but I didn't see you stim your units... ever. I don't think you researched the upgrade. Get it next time.
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On September 14 2012 03:31 xRiotZx wrote:Alright, I know I played like shit this game, but there's got to be more to it. I opened 1 Rax FE, delayed my CC to wall him off, just for lols, expanded, dropped 3 barracks for pure marines, doubled my gas, went immediately for mech, tanks, marines, hellions, eventually ravens with HSM. My micro was fuckin' awful, but my k/d still evened out much higher than his due to so much aoe on my part I'd say. By the time he hit me with Mutalisks I knew it was over, he didn't know how to micro them, so I got lucky, he killed like a whole 6 scvs. I accounted for the Mutalisks, and made me some good ol' turrets. I did some trollzy stuff I wouldn't usually do in a ladder, like take his 3rd, etc, but I think the game came down to my shit micro, I had some pretty stout tech leads on him the entire time, I just couldn't manage to push into his natural. Once I saw the lings at my third I knew the game was over, that's why I didn't bother to pull them earlier. http://drop.sc/252043How could I have won this game.
actually playing properly might have won you the game.
And just curious, so when did you know it was really over?
when you saw the muta? took his third? "shit micro" from start or the "shit micro" towards the end?
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