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On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Apparently he's getting his viewers to all back him up in this thread right now. I'll be damned if he gets my view. I feel really bad for desrow, now he's got a hate mob after him.
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On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Yeah, on his stream. The VODs should be up later, unless MB decides to delete them.
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On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Of course he did, hence the jump in people defending him in the past 15 minutes.
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DESROWS AN ASSSSS.
User was banned for this post.
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Technically MB didn't really do anything wrong, but he still lowballed Desrow like a motherfucker if those numbers are roughly accurate.
Pretty cold if you ask me.
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On August 11 2012 15:03 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Of course he did, hence the jump in people defending him in the past 15 minutes.
Well would someone care to tell me what was said?
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On August 11 2012 15:04 Gamegene wrote: Technically MB didn't really do anything wrong, but he still lowballed Desrow like a motherfucker if those numbers are roughly accurate.
Pretty cold if you ask me. I think that's what many people in this thread don't understand. In the business world, unless you're so big that people can't afford to *not* do business with you (Day9, who I'm mentioning incidentally, he seems like a good enough guy), this kind of stuff is just poison for future partnerships. There's a difference between being legally and morally right.
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On August 11 2012 15:03 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Apparently he's getting his viewers to all back him up in this thread right now. I'll be damned if he gets my view. I feel really bad for desrow, now he's got a hate mob after him. He didn't say anything about going on this thread and hating Desrow. He got linked to Desrows post by a viewer, told the stream what happened, and went back to his games. He seems pretty annoyed by it, but he constantly reiterated the fact that Desrow is a nice guy, and that you shouldn't attack him throughout.
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On August 11 2012 14:16 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:29 iNcontroL wrote: what happened between him and desrow? He mentioned it in the reddit thread but I heard nothing of this.. all I knew was desrow flew in to coach him some. This is basicly what happened Maximus offered me to go over to his house for 7 days and coach him. It was a great opportunity/event to promote myself and promote himself. He offered me 500$ and paid airfare and food which was 500$. On top of that, he gave me a 70$ microphone as a gift. Maximus made around 850$ off ad revenue and 4000$ off donations minus 1070 for aifare/salary/microphone. Once I got back, I talked with a few really close friends who work in e-sports for notable organisations and asked them their opinion of the whole affair. Most of them were shocked/surprised that he wasn't giving me more than that. I asked Maximus a week later if he thought I deserved more than what he gave me. He started flipping out and being agressive and calling me out for things that never seemed to be an issue while I was over there. Most of the jokes I made were to entertain sort of like 2GD. He kept claiming that he lost potential revenue from his youtube channel when he already had pre-recorded content for every channel. After he flipped out, I realize this wasn't going anywhere. Until I heard that CSN wanted to hire him. Being a acquaintance of John Clark, I thought it was only fair to inform him of how Maximus was behind the scene. After CSN telling Maximus what I told them, he realize that this whole story could get out and that his persona would be compromised. He then agreed to pay an extra 300$ out of spite.
Say i was Idra or something and i got offered 500 dollars to go down and coach someone i barely knew. I wouldnt go and ask for more money after what was agreed on top of making jokes that werent even funny and were hurtful to that persons wife along with him giving a microphone to me. But you would go out and ask for more? what a joke
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On August 11 2012 15:04 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:03 beesinyoface wrote:On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Of course he did, hence the jump in people defending him in the past 15 minutes. Well would someone care to tell me what was said? In essence, MB told "his" side of the story and all his fans are now up in arms and wanting to make desWOW suffer for it. Which, is weird, because all he did was tell his side and everyone believes MB over desWOW.
Eh, drama in SC2 never gets old I guess.
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On August 11 2012 14:16 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:29 iNcontroL wrote: what happened between him and desrow? He mentioned it in the reddit thread but I heard nothing of this.. all I knew was desrow flew in to coach him some. This is basicly what happened Maximus offered me to go over to his house for 7 days and coach him. It was a great opportunity/event to promote myself and promote himself. He offered me 500$ and paid airfare and food which was 500$. On top of that, he gave me a 70$ microphone as a gift. Maximus made around 850$ off ad revenue and 4000$ off donations minus 1070 for aifare/salary/microphone. Once I got back, I talked with a few really close friends who work in e-sports for notable organisations and asked them their opinion of the whole affair. Most of them were shocked/surprised that he wasn't giving me more than that. I asked Maximus a week later if he thought I deserved more than what he gave me. He started flipping out and being agressive and calling me out for things that never seemed to be an issue while I was over there. Most of the jokes I made were to entertain sort of like 2GD. He kept claiming that he lost potential revenue from his youtube channel when he already had pre-recorded content for every channel. After he flipped out, I realize this wasn't going anywhere. Until I heard that CSN wanted to hire him. Being a acquaintance of John Clark, I thought it was only fair to inform him of how Maximus was behind the scene. After CSN telling Maximus what I told them, he realize that this whole story could get out and that his persona would be compromised. He then agreed to pay an extra 300$ out of spite.
You don't agree to something and then go back and ask for more. You be smart about it from the beginning and if it is an issue.
you're in the wrong here. Oh and by the way.. Those jokes weren't funny.
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On August 11 2012 15:06 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:04 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 15:03 beesinyoface wrote:On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Of course he did, hence the jump in people defending him in the past 15 minutes. Well would someone care to tell me what was said? In essence, MB told "his" side of the story and all his fans are now up in arms and wanting to make desWOW suffer for it. Which, is weird, because all he did was tell his side and everyone believes MB over desWOW. Eh, drama in SC2 never gets old I guess.
Ok....but what did he say?
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On August 11 2012 15:01 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 14:58 Logun wrote:
....? I stand by my comment. imo it's pretty black and white I'm just saying sometimes it seems unfair that MB raises up this little army every time there's something coming up. You could say that players like IdrA have their own little armies too, but I've never seen IdrA going buck wild about some post on his stream, he just plays games. Some players seem to cultivate drama.
good post, I appreciate it when people actually want to have a discussion. I would agree with you on that MaximusBlack does seem to have a decent amount of drama, with him. I've got my own theories but that's just opinion - for instance he's an entertainer, he actively interacts with his audience on a very personable level. This is something I don't see from IdrA. He's very much a consumate pro and (imo) treats his stream as such. For him it's not about being entertaining. For him it's about practice and allowing eSports fans to have a peek
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desrow you are not very intelligent....
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On August 11 2012 15:05 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:03 pigmanbear wrote:On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Apparently he's getting his viewers to all back him up in this thread right now. I'll be damned if he gets my view. I feel really bad for desrow, now he's got a hate mob after him. He didn't say anything about going on this thread and hating Desrow. He got linked to Desrows post by a viewer, told the stream what happened, and went back to his games. He seems pretty annoyed by it, but he constantly reiterated the fact that Desrow is a nice guy, and that you shouldn't attack him throughout. I'm calling fucking bullshit on this one. It pisses me off when people say "oh no don't get me wrong I think he's a nice guy, but (insert 15 minute rant about him.)"
He knows his fanbase will go apeshit and try to ruin desWOW's name and reputation.
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On August 11 2012 15:08 desrowisafatfaggot wrote: Hahahaha desrow is a prick dude, he can go fuck himself. That fat triple chin faggot lmfao. Let's see how much revenue he makes after getting ddos'd for a month straight. And what do you think *this post* says about *you*? Or a segment of MaximusBlack's viewership, for that matter?
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On August 11 2012 15:07 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 15:06 beesinyoface wrote:On August 11 2012 15:04 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 15:03 beesinyoface wrote:On August 11 2012 15:01 TommyP wrote:On August 11 2012 14:57 ManiacL4160 wrote: Ok, desRow is saying the mic was $70, it was $130, and desRow thought it was a good amount of money. CSN had to question MB because they heard he was a dhasy dealer because of what desRow is spreading. desRow is an instigator. Look at LastShadow. desRow is the problem, not Maximus. MB isnt in the wrong, desRow is trying to make him look terrible. Im not jumping to conclusions on this. We dont know all the facts yet. Did maximus respond yet? Of course he did, hence the jump in people defending him in the past 15 minutes. Well would someone care to tell me what was said? In essence, MB told "his" side of the story and all his fans are now up in arms and wanting to make desWOW suffer for it. Which, is weird, because all he did was tell his side and everyone believes MB over desWOW. Eh, drama in SC2 never gets old I guess. Ok....but what did he say? You really think I'm going to bother typing out 15 minutes worth of ranting?
Watch the vod later or something, I'm sure you can get the gist of it from this thread.
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On August 11 2012 15:02 PballTy wrote: I've lost all respect for Desrow, and am quite disgusted with the way he acted, and the way he presented himself. Desrow, quite frankly, you are wrong in every single way. Maximus brough you under his own roof, did you a favour as on average he gets 5x more viewers than you, exposed you to 4000+ people each day during the boot camp, and you turn your back and do this to him. You're a grown man, show some respect and some class. You owe thousands of likes, follows and future views to Jeff. You made disgusting jokes, 99% about his fiance and are now blackmailing Jeff. He gave you everything you needed, wanted, could ask for + more, especially after trying to ruin his chances with CSN? You're sick. I hope you never get picked up by another team, as you don't deserve it, because people like you will get nowhere. You owe Jeff a huge apology, and if I was Jeff, i'd laugh at it, and tell you to get lost. honestly, the donations thingy shud have been split 50/50
there's nothing else to it, if jeff thinks he could have gotten a bigger part of it because he has more viewers on average or whatever the fuck else then he just had to make a MAXIMUS GOING TO MLG DONATION
not maximus + desrow
wtf common sense
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