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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 01:06:27
June 03 2012 22:32 GMT
#1
I have never been much of a thief. I never created a ponzi scheme or went to jail or am a criminal or anything. It all started when i was about 11-12. Hell, I don't even know how it started I just know that is the earliest that i started to borrow things without permission.

The first thing I ever "borrowed" was a pack of pokemon cards. Thought about the consequences and risk/rewards factor. How hard is it to see something you want (pokemon card pack) and slide it in your shirt and walk away? Risk = next to 0%. Reward = pokemon cards. After my first success, I would accompany my mother to the grocery store and everytime I would start to take more and more. 1 pack, 3 packs. a deck and a pack. 2 decks. A little asian kid thief, how amusing right? I don't remember the amount of cards I took, but I would have to estimate that I managed to obtain at least 1200 cards over the course of almost half a year's hard work.

There came a point, where I found out why it is bad to steal though. As short as my criminal career was, it was abruptly ended when a worker confronted me one day and asked what I was doing. Playing it cool I replied " i was just lookin at these pokemon cards sir". When asked if I put any of them in my pocket, I somehow managed to respond with a "seeing if I had any money and I didn't." Satisfied with my response, he let me be, but the psychological damage was done. The terror of almost being caught that day ended my career in petty smuggling within the year. i never stole again...


When I reached the age of 17, I was re-visiting the past and had started accumulating pokemon cards again at the cost of no money. I was too old to invest my hard earned money from a part-time job as a dishwasher into pokemon cards and I figured that I had such a great success earlier in my life that it could be replicated again. It was. For about a month, I hit the local wal-mart, target, and k-mart weekly getting about 35$ of card packs for every place I visited. One of my highest earnings during this time was bout 110$ when i hid all three of the stores, and balls to the wall, somehow managed to smuggle out an absurd amount of cards through my winter clothes.

Around this time, my Itouch broke. It was a christmas present several years ago and now, the screen wouldn't respond. I could press the "lock" button, but as for actually swiping my finger to unlock it, that task was dually impossible. I went to the Apple store, seeking expertise on my broken product and to see how great their customer service was. It was shit. They offered me a deal where I could recycle my itouch and buy a new one 100$ off (yea right). I said let me think about it and that was the end of that. Anyhow, before leaving and seething with anger, I'd thoguht that since I'm here, I should compensate myeslf fairly and rightly for my broken itouch (3rd gen 64GB = 599$). I looked around for a pair of nice-quality earbuds and found this gem, the Bowers and Wilkins C5 In-Ear Headphones for the small price of 179.99$. Took em and ran. Well not ran, but calmly walked out with the happiest look on my face as if I'd just bought a new apple product and become blinded by what is the huge conglomerate of Apple. This is where shit got real. This was the first thing of actual value that I had obtained through skill.

Later that year, I went to NYC with the rest of my school class for our senior trip. My profits were about 30$ worth of godiva chocolate and a 15$ french-vanilla coffee flavour, a syracuse hat from the nike store (30.00$), a couple lanyards from the NBC Studio to replace the Harry Potter World Griffyindor Lanyard that I had borrowed from florida about a year ago
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and a bunch of shot glasses. I got one that says "Dunder Mifflin" and one from the Empire State Building. I collect shot glasses, but because I am not 21 it looks weird buying a shot glass, so I just take them as souvenirs instead. Also because I was not 18 yet, I couldn't buy lighters so I just borrowed them from various stores when I needed them. I also managed to snag a zippo lighter, which is now broken, but was very awesome to have when it actually worked.

My last conquest has been a pair of these fantastic Bowers and Wilkins P5 Headphones for 300$

I had wanted a new headset pair and figured this would do the job (I absolutely love it, the frame is complete class and strength and the design is very ingenuitive and the sound is crisp and real.


Statistics

I have played around with the idea of how much i have obtained at a sale price of 0.00$ and I figure without adding in the costs of all the songs that I got, all the movies, and all the software, that in real objects, it adds up to be about 1,300$ over the course of my lifetime. Piracy however adds in about 10,000$ because programs like after effects and photoshop costs bank!

The end. or is it?

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Edit: - you might be wondering how I justify stealing because it does not belong to me right? Well, I justify stealing as if you are good enough to steal it, you are allowed to steal it. Just like with cheating on tests, its not cheating if you don't get caught. If you don't get caught, its not stealing. It is considered bad to steal a car, but ask yourself, do you even know how to steal a car? Chances are you most likely don't.


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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
June 03 2012 22:40 GMT
#2
Interesting stories. I think your justification is a little immature/misguided, but I would not condemn your actions outright; I don't really have a problem with what you've done.
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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 03 2012 22:41 GMT
#3
On June 04 2012 07:40 divito wrote:
Interesting stories. I think your justification is a little immature/misguided, but I would not condemn your actions outright; I don't really have a problem with what you've done.

It honestly is and I don't expect to have a mature kind of justification such as the classic stealing bread to feed your family.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#4
I hope you get caught it's easier for everyone if we can just trust each other on these things, stores that are too anal about making sure people don't steal from them are pretty obnoxious.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
June 03 2012 22:54 GMT
#5
On June 04 2012 07:32 Br3ezy wrote:
Well, I justify murder as if you are good enough to kill someone, you are allowed to kill someone. Just like with stealing, its not stealing if you don't get caught. If you don't get caught, its not murder. It is considered bad to kill a person, but ask yourself, do you even know how to kill a person? Chances are you most likely don't.



Your attempt to justify yourself is pretty pathetic. Changed the quote to show why.
WHyTePoWeR
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)132 Posts
June 03 2012 22:58 GMT
#6
sounds bad ass teach me how to steal shit
Deleted User 255289
Profile Joined March 2012
281 Posts
June 03 2012 22:58 GMT
#7
u can steal all u want, as long as its from the apple store.
otherwise u are bad.
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Knap4life
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Slovenia333 Posts
June 03 2012 22:59 GMT
#8
Wow , your logic for stealing is so bad. I have to agree with Nttea , i hope you get caught.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#9
jesus people like you make me sick.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 03 2012 23:03 GMT
#10
I would have simply regarded this blog as foolish, but grouping what you do with piracy is absurd and shows that there is not even a shadow of reason in your thinking.

I hope you keep thinking the way you do.
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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#11
On June 04 2012 07:54 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 07:32 Br3ezy wrote:
Well, I justify murder as if you are good enough to kill someone, you are allowed to kill someone. Just like with stealing, its not stealing if you don't get caught. If you don't get caught, its not murder. It is considered bad to kill a person, but ask yourself, do you even know how to kill a person? Chances are you most likely don't.



Your attempt to justify yourself is pretty pathetic. Changed the quote to show why.

During the ancient time periods of those old empires such as the Roman empire and the Hang dynasty, killing was a different matter. Now we are in a different century and there is strangely controversy to preserve life at the cost of overpopulating the world by disabling natural selection. With the overpopulationg of humans, many animals have become endangered and extinct. In the end, something is going to die, but we would rather it not be us because no one wants to die and since we are the highest on the food chain, we get the final say in who dies and who doesn't
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 23:08:44
June 03 2012 23:05 GMT
#12
The funny part is that I'm sure all of the people condemning you for stealing have pirated music or videos.

Also, here's some food for thought.

stealing:
-Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: "thieves stole her bicycle".

-Dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own: "accusations that one group had stolen ideas from the other were soon flying".

Whether or not you get caught is irrelevant.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#13
On June 04 2012 08:05 MrZentor wrote:
The funny part is that I'm sure all of the people condemning you for stealing have pirated music or videos.


Everyone is more then welcome to voice their opinions. I like to see what different people say because it gives insight into what kind of logic and reasoning they use is.
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
June 03 2012 23:09 GMT
#14
Cool for you that you managed to snag a bunch of more or less useful stuff and getting away with it. I don't approve of what you do, but such petty crimes don't strike me as anything special. Chances are everyone encounters people 10x worse than you on a daily basis...
A little piece of advice: Quit as soon as possible. Chances are you get away with it not because you're good, but because most stores' security is close to non-existent with them relying mainly on scaring potential thieves rather than tracking down actual thieves. That being said every now and then an unlucky thief gets caught due to unforeseeable circumstances. You don't want to be that guy...
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 03 2012 23:19 GMT
#15
I was expecting your story to end w/ you getting caught, surprised me there

Good job getting away with all that, but agreed with ggrrg, quit. When you get caught, stores start getting more secure and others have less luck
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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
June 03 2012 23:20 GMT
#16
On June 04 2012 08:05 MrZentor wrote:
The funny part is that I'm sure all of the people condemning you for stealing have pirated music or videos.

I think most of us aren't necessarily condemning him, but more so the reasoning behind why he thinks it's okay to do it.
Skype: divito7
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
June 03 2012 23:21 GMT
#17
Please stop before you turn 18 and get charged as an adult.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
June 03 2012 23:24 GMT
#18
Your parents failed.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 03 2012 23:33 GMT
#19
Bar the guy directly above me, people in here have been surprisingly nice. I kinda agree with him though, your actions are blatantly immoral, your justification ridiculous, and your response to the comparison to murder frankly quite scary.
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Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
June 03 2012 23:41 GMT
#20
First, you are a piece of shit.

Fortunately I know some pretty decent people who had a "stealing phase." On the other hand, most of the thieves I knew growing up became progressively shittier.

Make the right decision.
Make more anything.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 23:51:55
June 03 2012 23:51 GMT
#21
First thought: 'Only in America.'

It's not your skill that's getting you out of trouble, If you worked an honesty day in a cashiers job you'd understand that you can't really check everyone. If you do, the customers get weary, and it makes your job miserable. It's just not fun to mistrust people. I have two friends who used to steal, one got caught, so the other one stopped right away. I advise you do the same. Her criminal record makes it insanely hard to get a decent job, and that's overlooking her prison sentence.

Also: Inb4 OP is a troll.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
June 03 2012 23:54 GMT
#22
There is nothing scary or criminal about this guy. You peole really haven't realizes at all what is going on and why he posted it.

He's just a bit of a narcissist. He gets off on posting how awesome and cool he is by stealing Pokemon cards and headphones from an Apple shop. He's barely 20 for God's sake, how can you look at this and not pity him for being such a dumbass?

He's pathetic, not scary. That stupid talk about ancient Romans or whatever and how he thinks it's totally cool to steal and murder because "it should be allowed" (As an aside: this is what narcissists say, not criminals.).

Just a kid trying to buff himself up by being this awesome persona who "just takes shot glasses as souvenirs". Hey, Benze, admit that every time you're doing it you're shitting your pants because if they find out, you, and most importantly, everbody else will very quickly realize that you're not the cold-blooded criminal that you are but just a dumb kid.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 00:05:27
June 04 2012 00:03 GMT
#23
On June 04 2012 08:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
First thought: 'Only in America.'

Also: Inb4 OP is a troll.


lol
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 00:22:56
June 04 2012 00:12 GMT
#24
On June 04 2012 08:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
First thought: 'Only in America.'

It's not your skill that's getting you out of trouble, If you worked an honesty day in a cashiers job you'd understand that you can't really check everyone. If you do, the customers get weary, and it makes your job miserable. It's just not fun to mistrust people. I have two friends who used to steal, one got caught, so the other one stopped right away. I advise you do the same. Her criminal record makes it insanely hard to get a decent job, and that's overlooking her prison sentence.

Also: Inb4 OP is a troll.


I consider it a skill to realize that cashiers do not and cannot check everyone who walks into a wal-mart, the largest company in the world. Maybe skill wouldn't be the best word and maybe uh hindsight and planning would be better descriptory words?

Something that also just happened 'only in America'. The IPO of facebook, as you might have heard, was a huge let down. the IPO price was 38$, higher then what the ESTIMATED price would be. Furthermore, people have also started to try to sue facebook on being mislead. Facebook never said that it's stock would be the go to stock to buy. It was just assumed that it would be considering the similarities between other companies like Google and Apple and that a company as successful as facebook would probably be a good company to invest in. It's kind of funny because when you "invest", you don't invest in a short term. You invest long term. 2 weeks and people are already mad at facebook because they expected somehow that the supply/demand of it's stocks would somehow increase it's stock price because of its high demand...?
On June 04 2012 08:54 Jinsho wrote:
There is nothing scary or criminal about this guy. You peole really haven't realizes at all what is going on and why he posted it.

He's just a bit of a narcissist. He gets off on posting how awesome and cool he is by stealing Pokemon cards and headphones from an Apple shop. He's barely 20 for God's sake, how can you look at this and not pity him for being such a dumbass?

He's pathetic, not scary. That stupid talk about ancient Romans or whatever and how he thinks it's totally cool to steal and murder because "it should be allowed" (As an aside: this is what narcissists say, not criminals.).

Just a kid trying to buff himself up by being this awesome persona who "just takes shot glasses as souvenirs". Hey, Benze, admit that every time you're doing it you're shitting your pants because if they find out, you, and most importantly, everbody else will very quickly realize that you're not the cold-blooded criminal that you are but just a dumb kid.

Oh I'm sorry. Did I say how awesome and cool it was to steal petty shit from stores with lax security and then make a brag blog on teamliquid saying how awesome I am for doing it?

Why do you think I'm trying to be scary? I also never took the side for murder. I just used an example from history and a different time period where different values and morals were in place during that current society (such as slavery) and justified the fact that things are accepted as right or wrong based on what people think during that time period and not because it is actually right or wrong.
Another example would be the Aztecs. I certainly don't agree that it is right that they sacrified people to their gods, but I know that this happened and I accept that fact. Theres nothing I can do about it, except comment on it and maybe try to understand further why they did that and what factors, most likely geographical-based, drove them to these actions.



If I had justified my actions by stealing by saying that Wal-Mart and Apple are two very very successful companies with profits in the hundreds of billions each year and that they wouldn't miss a less then trivial value of that profit? Am I truly hurting hard-working americans by stealing products from large corporations that are so big that one might say they have almost a mini-monopoly over their niches in the global economy?
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thehepp
Profile Joined December 2011
United States67 Posts
June 04 2012 00:25 GMT
#25
i hope you get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail
people like you make me sick
and your justification for it is pathetic
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 04 2012 00:28 GMT
#26
On June 04 2012 09:25 thehepp wrote:
i hope you get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail
people like you make me sick
and your justification for it is pathetic

I get that people think I am a bad person and all, but

What exactly creates your pre-determined hatred against me?

What about my justification is pathetic?

Why do people like me make you sick?
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 04 2012 00:30 GMT
#27
deep thinker muses
'bout how he's the plato of
kleptomaniacs
?
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 00:33:31
June 04 2012 00:31 GMT
#28
Well, according to your "justification" on why you steal, I'm very much capable of telling you what you're doing is stupid/immature, and therefore, I have,
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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 00:36:40
June 04 2012 00:32 GMT
#29
On June 04 2012 09:30 419 wrote:
deep thinker muses
'bout how he's the plato of
kleptomaniacs

I just feel like he should explain why he is saying that more out of curiosty then anything

On June 04 2012 09:31 JerKy wrote:
Well, according to your "justification" on why you steal, I'm very much capable of telling you what you're doing is stupid/immature, and therefore, I have,

stupidity and immaturity usually go hand in hand because you aren't mature enough to make better and smarter decisions.


Hey I completely agree with you though. Hell, its borderline psychotic too isnt it?
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thehepp
Profile Joined December 2011
United States67 Posts
June 04 2012 00:34 GMT
#30
On June 04 2012 09:28 Br3ezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 09:25 thehepp wrote:
i hope you get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail
people like you make me sick
and your justification for it is pathetic

I get that people think I am a bad person and all, but

What exactly creates your pre-determined hatred against me?

What about my justification is pathetic?

Why do people like me make you sick?

Do you think it is alright that people can steal from you?
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 04 2012 00:38 GMT
#31
On June 04 2012 09:34 thehepp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 09:28 Br3ezy wrote:
On June 04 2012 09:25 thehepp wrote:
i hope you get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail
people like you make me sick
and your justification for it is pathetic

I get that people think I am a bad person and all, but

What exactly creates your pre-determined hatred against me?

What about my justification is pathetic?

Why do people like me make you sick?

Do you think it is alright that people can steal from you?

If someone steals something from me then it's my fault that I was sloppy and let the item get stolen so yea its alright that people can steal from me. Im certainly not going to condemn them for their actions
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
June 04 2012 00:45 GMT
#32
On June 04 2012 09:38 Br3ezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 09:34 thehepp wrote:
On June 04 2012 09:28 Br3ezy wrote:
On June 04 2012 09:25 thehepp wrote:
i hope you get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail
people like you make me sick
and your justification for it is pathetic

I get that people think I am a bad person and all, but

What exactly creates your pre-determined hatred against me?

What about my justification is pathetic?

Why do people like me make you sick?

Do you think it is alright that people can steal from you?

If someone steals something from me then it's my fault that I was sloppy and let the item get stolen so yea its alright that people can steal from me. Im certainly not going to condemn them for their actions


lol
I really wish I knew you irl then
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 04 2012 00:48 GMT
#33
I used to steal when I was young, so did all of my friends. When people are poor, they steal.

I finally stopped when I caught by an "ex-navy seal" turned "private investigator". It was pretty embarrassing at the time, to be caught by some old fat guy. I too believed I was God's gift to thievery.

It's not a big deal. Keep in mind though, once you turn 18 and you get caught stealing, you will get jail time and a record that will haunt you for the rest of your adult life.

Hard work and dedication is always superior to cheating.
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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
June 04 2012 00:51 GMT
#34
On June 04 2012 09:48 guN-viCe wrote:
I used to steal when I was young, so did all of my friends. When people are poor, they steal.

I finally stopped when I caught by an "ex-navy seal" turned "private investigator". It was pretty embarrassing at the time, to be caught by some old fat guy. I too believed I was God's gift to thievery.

It's not a big deal. Keep in mind though, once you turn 18 and you get caught stealing, you will get jail time and a record that will haunt you for the rest of your adult life.

Hard work and dedication is always superior to cheating.

what did you steal to get a PI on you ?
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 04 2012 00:56 GMT
#35
On June 04 2012 08:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
First thought: 'Only in America.'



You single out "America", yet you fail to realize shoplifting occurs in EVERY NATION ON EARTH.

I think you should learn a little basic history of your own country before posting such drivel..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Australia_(1788–1850)


LOL
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 04 2012 00:57 GMT
#36
On June 04 2012 09:51 Br3ezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 09:48 guN-viCe wrote:
I used to steal when I was young, so did all of my friends. When people are poor, they steal.

I finally stopped when I caught by an "ex-navy seal" turned "private investigator". It was pretty embarrassing at the time, to be caught by some old fat guy. I too believed I was God's gift to thievery.

It's not a big deal. Keep in mind though, once you turn 18 and you get caught stealing, you will get jail time and a record that will haunt you for the rest of your adult life.

Hard work and dedication is always superior to cheating.

what did you steal to get a PI on you ?



The store hired a PI because they had a big shoplifting problem. I got caught stealing food o_O
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 01:01:19
June 04 2012 01:00 GMT
#37
Lol, the one time you get caught with something expensive is going to suck for you.

I don't think stealing is hard, but you really have to never, ever get caught or it just won't be profitable in the long run.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24670 Posts
June 04 2012 01:04 GMT
#38
If you need to get caught to stop stealing things from stores, then congratulations, you just got caught.

We don't need people in our community who feel justified in stealing from us.
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