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GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
May 20 2012 02:42 GMT
#1
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What is this keyboard called that Mvp uses? I'm sorry i have to post such a meaningless thread, but this i the last resort, given that i couldn't find it anywhere else.

So what is it called?

Thank you in advance

The reason I'm looking for this keyboard is because it doesn't look too expensive and looks somewhat expandable, and good for gaming.
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 20 2012 02:43 GMT
#2
QSENN DT-35
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 20 2012 02:45 GMT
#3
yep its a Qsenn. Standard SC1 keyboard all the Korean pros use. FlaSh is even using it in that FPVOD that was released recently.
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 20 2012 02:45 GMT
#4
On May 20 2012 11:43 TR wrote:
QSENN DT-35

this


it's nothing special, in korea it is really cheap and even more cheap in bulk. so progaming houses usually have (or used to) have a ton of these. they are very worth the price but it is by no means a must have ke yboard
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 20 2012 02:46 GMT
#5
Its a DT-35 used by pretty much all Korean progamers, both in BW and sc2. Its fairly cheap here, and found everywhere. They come in white and black. I'm using one right now. there isn't anything amazing about the keyboard, just fuctions well and is easy to find if they break or get worn out. plus allow for a lot of customization, with the keycaps being able to be changed. Which is how mkp got his famous checkered keyboard he was using in the old GSL's
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
May 20 2012 02:47 GMT
#6
On May 20 2012 11:45 Grampz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 11:43 TR wrote:
QSENN DT-35

this


it's nothing special, in korea it is really cheap and even more cheap in bulk. so progaming houses usually have (or used to) have a ton of these. they are very worth the price but it is by no means a must have ke yboard


Most distributers selling these to outside of korea will charge $30 or more, which is not what it's worth. It's a cheap and robust membrane keyboard that has a good feel to it for the price you pay. Normally at it's price point keyboards that cheap feel like shit.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
May 20 2012 02:50 GMT
#7
Thanks for swift responses
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9022 Posts
May 20 2012 02:56 GMT
#8
I saw someone pouring water on it on Youtube so I copied trying to wash it, and it died.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 03:00:22
May 20 2012 02:57 GMT
#9
If you're looking to become a better player, brand of keyboard won't help you much. It's nothing special and it's pretty much the same thing as the cheapest logitech/microsoft keyboard.

protip: don't waste your money and just practice
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
May 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#10
^I don't know about that, I can't find another keyboard that has the nice smooth feel of the Qsenn DT-35. I think it's definitely the greatest priced keyboard out there
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
May 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#11
the sound of that keyboard...
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
May 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#12
Wow, that looks like a really nice keyboard.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#13
It's a membrane dome keyboard right?
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Basher_
Profile Joined January 2011
82 Posts
May 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#14
you can buy his keyboard, but not his special terran powers
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
May 20 2012 03:18 GMT
#15
On May 20 2012 12:14 QuanticTheognis wrote:
It's a membrane dome keyboard right?


Yeah,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korean-Hangul-Keyboard-QSENN-SEM-DT35-Black-PS-2-Key-Skin-/110826783936?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19cdca84c0#ht_6518wt_905

Heres it in black. I own one myself but the USB version, same thing. Best keyboard! :D
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 03:20:51
May 20 2012 03:20 GMT
#16
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 20 2012 03:30 GMT
#17
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


No! Don´t tell him that. MVPs fingers must be safe
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 03:34:54
May 20 2012 03:31 GMT
#18
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

But I can't buy those D;

It's a nice membrane keyboard, but only for the price you'd pay for it in Korean retail, I have a bunch of Korean friends who came back with 4 of these for ~$10 each. $30 (+$30 shipping?) for foreigners is too much imo.
andReslic
Profile Joined January 2012
216 Posts
May 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#19
thats the one BW pros use too
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
May 20 2012 03:38 GMT
#20
if bws and sc2 pros use it, then it must be good
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 20 2012 03:41 GMT
#21
I heard that This Keyboard has nothing special about it. Just cheap, durable, and easy to find. But even though I want one of these! Hehe! They are very cheap at NaDaMall Only 17$
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
May 20 2012 05:10 GMT
#22
On May 20 2012 12:30 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


No! Don´t tell him that. MVPs fingers must be safe


If they come with his wrists than fuck that lol
eSports for life.
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
May 20 2012 05:44 GMT
#23
qsenn dt-35 ftw! and i agree there is nothing special at all just probably one of the better membrane keyboards. definitely not worth it if you plan to spend more than 20 bucks(including shipping). i got mine in korea so i only spent around 15 or less.
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 20 2012 06:10 GMT
#24
How can MVP be so good with using just the arrows keys?! He needs to teach meeee....
Life?
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
May 20 2012 06:19 GMT
#25
funny story of the q-senn dt35

Once upon a time foreigners wonder why koreans are so gosu are bw. They came to the conclusion that all the korean players have something in common, they use similar keyboards (q-senn dt35). Bw players just get the keyboard cuz its cheap and easily obtainable. If they play all day, they are bound to destroy keyboards on a daily basis. So the following things happen

1. Foreigners start buying the keyboard because they want to be as gosu but still not able to
2. sale of the keyboiard sky rockets because of these foreigners and they sell online for mega high price compared to the original.
3. people actually do buy the keyboards for high price
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 06:29:39
May 20 2012 06:20 GMT
#26
Hint: It's not the keyboard.

+ Show Spoiler +
Second hint: It's not the wrists either :'(


Edit: Not criticizing, I got a Qsenn dt-35 myself :D
AethariA
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada22 Posts
May 20 2012 06:23 GMT
#27
OP isn't asking for MVP's skill, he's just asking what kind of keyboard it is. No idea why you guys would jump to that, especially considering he said that he wanted it because it looked like a nice, cheap keyboard that's good for gaming.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
May 20 2012 06:28 GMT
#28
Yeah i didn't mean to say it will increase my level of skill, what i meant to say was that it looks cheap and expandable, and is still good for gaming
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
May 20 2012 06:43 GMT
#29
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


Yeah, but dont buy his wrists tho.
I've got moves like Jagger
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 12:24:01
May 20 2012 12:22 GMT
#30
Even the best mech keyboard won't help you play better unless you are currently uncomfortable on your own keyboard.
Comfortable use is another thing entirely, though. It's up to you if improving this significantly is worth the money to you. The Qsenn probably won't help in this regard, either.
If you want to look like the Koreans, go for it.

As for the Dt35 - check out your school campus's computer rooms or offices. They probably all have similar Dell keyboards and mice. Ask yourself, is this because they are so super good that every campus wants them, or because they're simply reliable and cheap, and these facilities tend to burn through a whole lot of them?
Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
May 20 2012 12:30 GMT
#31
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo
Power of Human Will
NormandyBoy
Profile Joined May 2010
France200 Posts
May 20 2012 12:30 GMT
#32
a white keyboard
Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
May 20 2012 12:33 GMT
#33
I'm more curious to know what Mouse IMMVP is using though. its not logitech G1 anymore i don think...
anyone have any info on this?
Power of Human Will
Makelius
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
May 20 2012 12:33 GMT
#34
On May 20 2012 11:57 polyphonyEX wrote:
If you're looking to become a better player, brand of keyboard won't help you much. It's nothing special and it's pretty much the same thing as the cheapest logitech/microsoft keyboard.

protip: don't waste your money and just practice


Please read the OP before commenting something like this.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 12:35:35
May 20 2012 12:34 GMT
#35
On May 20 2012 11:47 Skytt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 11:45 Grampz wrote:
On May 20 2012 11:43 TR wrote:
QSENN DT-35

this


it's nothing special, in korea it is really cheap and even more cheap in bulk. so progaming houses usually have (or used to) have a ton of these. they are very worth the price but it is by no means a must have ke yboard


Most distributers selling these to outside of korea will charge $30 or more, which is not what it's worth. It's a cheap and robust membrane keyboard that has a good feel to it for the price you pay. Normally at it's price point keyboards that cheap feel like shit.


I buy them for $16 including p&p on ebay so that's not necessarily true.

Great keyboard though
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
May 20 2012 12:43 GMT
#36
i found 2 on ebay one gaming edition and one without the " gaming " tag and without the weapon at the numlock lights. where is the difference? both are called dt-35 qsenn....?
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
SaltTheWound
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany72 Posts
May 20 2012 12:46 GMT
#37
On May 20 2012 21:43 ntssauce wrote:
i found 2 on ebay one gaming edition and one without the " gaming " tag and without the weapon at the numlock lights. where is the difference? both are called dt-35 qsenn....?


no difference. I have both of them. One in white and one in black.
I used to play with a Steelseries 6gv2 Mech. keyboard but i can play way better with qsenn dt 35.
Makelius
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
May 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#38
On May 20 2012 21:30 Haustka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo


I don't really understand your point with dropping bombs. ._.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
May 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#39
rubber dome keyboards break very often; if you play 12 hours a day you're likely to go through 3 a year.

Get a mechanical keyboard; Filco Majestouch 2. I promise you'll thank me despite the price. Its sheer perfection.

I've had mine for a year now; it has blue switches and even after all this time i still feel the pleasure of typing and using it. It's amazing.
decemberTV
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#40
On May 20 2012 21:30 Haustka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo

Problem is, you're most likely the only one who wants to see that :D
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 20 2012 13:53 GMT
#41
Its funny that they aren't using steelseries ones since they are sponsored by them.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 20 2012 13:56 GMT
#42
On May 20 2012 21:30 Haustka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo


Uhm.. No.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
May 20 2012 13:58 GMT
#43
On May 20 2012 12:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
if bws and sc2 pros use it, then it must be good

No, it's just what they're used to, and they don't really care about durability when they can easily get new ones.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
May 20 2012 13:58 GMT
#44
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

dont by them theyre shitty fingers, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his brain, nervous system, muscles and tendons not his fingers
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 20 2012 14:01 GMT
#45
On May 20 2012 11:56 Garnet wrote:
I saw someone pouring water on it on Youtube so I copied trying to wash it, and it died.

hahaha oh god thats so stupid

RIP keyboard
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
May 20 2012 14:05 GMT
#46
i thought proz used mechanical keyboards. Weird hearing they play on a regular membrane keyboard
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
May 20 2012 14:05 GMT
#47
On May 20 2012 21:30 Haustka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo


I don't want to see that, because TT1 is a bad player, haven't had succes since the release of starcraft 2 sooo...

User was warned for this post
Hell, it's about time
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1366 Posts
May 20 2012 14:05 GMT
#48
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

buying a dt35 for $20 is definitely better than buying some random mechanic keyboard for $120


http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=qsenn dt35&_sacat=0&_odkw=dt35&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i love it
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 20 2012 14:07 GMT
#49
You can get one here:

http://nadamall.com/shop/list.php?ca_id=40

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imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1366 Posts
May 20 2012 14:07 GMT
#50
On May 20 2012 22:58 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
if bws and sc2 pros use it, then it must be good

No, it's just what they're used to, and they don't really care about durability when they can easily get new ones.

it should at least be a proof that mechanical keyboards dont give you a single advantage (except for placebo maybe)


as far as i know flash still used his dt35 when kt was sponsored by zowie
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
May 20 2012 14:07 GMT
#51
On May 20 2012 23:05 imperator-xy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

buying a dt35 for $20 is definitely better than buying some random mechanic keyboard for $120


http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=qsenn dt35&_sacat=0&_odkw=dt35&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i love it


It's literally just a key board though. Anyone who buys any gaming peripheral as they think that it is only that holding them back from being Grandmaster needs their head checked.
@followMVT
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 20 2012 14:11 GMT
#52
It's really weird that such a keyboard is not in the standard arsenal of most computer stores.
Anyways, what makes this keyboard so special compared to the others that are available?
medic_ro
Profile Joined July 2011
Romania105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 14:13:33
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#53
--- Nuked ---
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#54
On May 20 2012 23:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
i thought proz used mechanical keyboards. Weird hearing they play on a regular membrane keyboard


Well ive never tried the Qsen one but apparently its a really soft touch and that is why they like it. I like mechanical keyboards because I like the feedback thats all really and the steelseries one I bought actually is pretty indestructible.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 20 2012 14:14 GMT
#55
I don't think buying a keyboard is going to significantly improve your gameplay. I would focus on practicing with the keyboard you're comfortable with =]
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#56
On May 20 2012 23:05 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 21:30 Haustka wrote:
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


did TT1 just dropped the bomb on IMMVP?

BO9 and see who wins? anyone? I wanna see IMMVP vs TT1

gogogo


I don't want to see that, because TT1 is a bad player, haven't had succes since the release of starcraft 2 sooo...



Dat callout..
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#57
On May 20 2012 12:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
if bws and sc2 pros use it, then it must be good


Most of them are also asians, so you should get some sort of surgery.

This kind of answer is dumb, they're good because they practice like no tomorrow; It's not the race, the keyboard or the chair that makes them good.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
May 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#58
If i get this keyboard I WILL BE MVP!!!!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 20 2012 14:23 GMT
#59
On May 20 2012 23:14 Holytornados wrote:
I don't think buying a keyboard is going to significantly improve your gameplay. I would focus on practicing with the keyboard you're comfortable with =]


Yup, but if plenty of people agree that this one particular keyboard is very comfortable, and you intend on wasting many hours with gaming, I think one could give it a try. Anyways, I'm using wireless equipment exclusively. As far as I heard, that's the worst equipment for competitive gaming. :-/
Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
May 20 2012 14:25 GMT
#60
On May 20 2012 23:15 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
if bws and sc2 pros use it, then it must be good


Most of them are also asians, so you should get some sort of surgery.

This kind of answer is dumb, they're good because they practice like no tomorrow; It's not the race, the keyboard or the chair that makes them good.

im pretty sure he was being sarcrastic >.<
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 20 2012 14:27 GMT
#61
On May 20 2012 23:11 JustPassingBy wrote:
It's really weird that such a keyboard is not in the standard arsenal of most computer stores.
Anyways, what makes this keyboard so special compared to the others that are available?

It really is nothing special. It uses a membrane like all other cheap keyboards. It is a Korean brand and can be bought in Korea. Where you are from, you will be able to get something similar and cheap from some other brand, perhaps Logitech, Cherry, Dell, Microsoft, Keysonic, Fujitsu, etc. Just get the cheap keyboard on which you make the least mistakes while typing fast, where you do not hit the wrong keys and the keys do not get stuck easily, and it will be just as good for you as the DT-35 is for Koreans. And do not buy a wireless keyboard or mouse.
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Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
May 20 2012 14:40 GMT
#62
The keyboard doesn't matter! Anyone below High GM can't play with every 5$ Keyboard, it makes no difference -_-
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 20 2012 14:46 GMT
#63
Keyboards, mouses and all that stuff really don't matter at all T_T.
I hate it when people buy the same gear as progamers just because they saw progamers use it.

Just get something u like.
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
May 20 2012 14:47 GMT
#64
I bought a few of these years ago.. still use it.

The main difference is that the keys are slighly smaller / closer together.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
May 20 2012 14:47 GMT
#65
Rubber dome bad keyboard
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Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
May 20 2012 15:53 GMT
#66
Of course getting some pro gaming equipment will not make you a significantly better player but it can be a motivation to put in some effort to actually get better.

The reason I tend to buy gaming eq is that these companies are pretty high up on the sponsor list for the ESports scene and I want to support them while I can.
Not enough energy
Darkman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States64 Posts
May 20 2012 15:57 GMT
#67
Just buy the cheapest possible keyboard you can find. It doesn't matter if it's a logitech or a qsenn or whatever, Just buy the cheapest model they make and that's what the pros use. Keyboard has absolutely nothing to do with skill.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 20 2012 15:57 GMT
#68
On May 20 2012 22:53 FlukyS wrote:
Its funny that they aren't using steelseries ones since they are sponsored by them.


They sponsor Rapha (Quake Live) but he actually uses a Microsoft WMO with a SteelSeries sticker on it
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
May 20 2012 15:59 GMT
#69
It's really good. I switched from Blackwidow to DT-35, like almost a year ago. Totally worth it.

Although, its a dome keyboard it feels a lot better than normal ones. Buttons are really easy to press, and its quiet. Really great keyboard.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
May 20 2012 16:07 GMT
#70
On May 20 2012 23:47 Thylacine wrote:
Rubber dome bad keyboard


Bad for what? Holding down 20 keys at the same time? That happens very often so mechanical is obviously better. O_O
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polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 20 2012 16:19 GMT
#71
On May 20 2012 21:33 Makelius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 11:57 polyphonyEX wrote:
If you're looking to become a better player, brand of keyboard won't help you much. It's nothing special and it's pretty much the same thing as the cheapest logitech/microsoft keyboard.

protip: don't waste your money and just practice


Please read the OP before commenting something like this.

No shit son. I was giving advice.
Darkman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 16:22:46
May 20 2012 16:21 GMT
#72
On May 20 2012 23:11 JustPassingBy wrote:
It's really weird that such a keyboard is not in the standard arsenal of most computer stores.
Anyways, what makes this keyboard so special compared to the others that are available?


Let me sum it up for everyone.

1. Korean pros buy this cheap keyboard because it's cheap and easily replaceable.
2. Korean pros get really good at Starcraft, primarily by playing it 24/7.
3. Foreigners want to become pro at Starcraft without actually developing any real skills.
4. Foreigners come to the conclusion that the brand of keyboard used by the Korean players is a contributing factor in success.
5. Demand for said cheap keyboard develops amongst Western gamers.
6. Importers sell the keyboard onto the hapless masses, sometimes for as much as 10 times the price that it retails for in Korea.
7. People actually buy them.

Moral of the story: Go to your local supermarket and buy the cheapest keyboard you can find. Same difference.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
May 20 2012 16:31 GMT
#73
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


Thanks Mr. Obvious..
Arghnews
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 16:39:06
May 20 2012 16:37 GMT
#74
I don't think that many people really believe having the same keyboard as their favourite pro gamer will allow to become much better at the game, however, please remember, we do actually need people to buy hardware from sponsors to appease the sponsors :D !

And also, this thread was started more of curiousity, I do not the think the OP thinks he can become MVP overnight by buying his keyboard, and anyone trying to state that people who do this are stupid are really just stating the obvious about a minority

That said, if you are going to spend a lot of time at the comp and do have the cash, I see nothing wrong with going mechanical for comfort, considering the amount of time you spend pressing the keys (although still on my £15 10 year old Logitech Keyboard )
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
May 20 2012 16:39 GMT
#75
On May 20 2012 23:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
i thought proz used mechanical keyboards. Weird hearing they play on a regular membrane keyboard



A few of them used to/still do. Alot of them use the keyboard listed here, but a couple of guys like Nada have dabbled/still use mech keyboards.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 16:52:06
May 20 2012 16:51 GMT
#76
On May 20 2012 23:05 imperator-xy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

buying a dt35 for $20 is definitely better than buying some random mechanic keyboard for $120


http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=qsenn dt35&_sacat=0&_odkw=dt35&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i love it


How is it better than that? Have you actually tried a mechanical keyboard yourself?

I don't really think there's something called "better". People buy a mechanical keyboard because it is more comfortable, which is a fact.
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tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
May 20 2012 16:51 GMT
#77
Why do people buy Jordan's?? do they think they can dunk like him?

who cares, buy whatever you want. people who are judging are dumb, he's just askin what kind of keyboard.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
May 20 2012 16:53 GMT
#78
On May 21 2012 01:07 JeffGoldblum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:47 Thylacine wrote:
Rubber dome bad keyboard


Bad for what? Holding down 20 keys at the same time? That happens very often so mechanical is obviously better. O_O

The only differences that I know of between mechanical keys and domes is their life span(mechanical keys have an estimated 50 million keystroke life span, while domes only have 5 million), and the response(you don't have to press the key down completely for a response on mechanical keyboards).
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slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
May 20 2012 16:53 GMT
#79
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=260143#1

Consult the OP.
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:00:46
May 20 2012 16:58 GMT
#80
On May 21 2012 01:51 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:05 imperator-xy wrote:
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

buying a dt35 for $20 is definitely better than buying some random mechanic keyboard for $120


http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=qsenn dt35&_sacat=0&_odkw=dt35&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i love it


How is it better than that? Have you actually tried a mechanical keyboard yourself?

I don't really think there's something called "better". People buy a mechanical keyboard because it is more comfortable, which is a fact.

No, that is not a fact. How something feels is subjective, so because you and other people think its more comfortable, that doesn't mean they are more comfortable to everyone. In fact, to me, dome keyboards are more comfortable to use, but I use the shit out of keyboards and wanted to stop buying a new one every year because they stopped working.
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sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
May 20 2012 17:18 GMT
#81
On May 21 2012 01:58 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 01:51 sereniity wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:05 imperator-xy wrote:
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard

buying a dt35 for $20 is definitely better than buying some random mechanic keyboard for $120


http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=qsenn dt35&_sacat=0&_odkw=dt35&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313


i love it


How is it better than that? Have you actually tried a mechanical keyboard yourself?

I don't really think there's something called "better". People buy a mechanical keyboard because it is more comfortable, which is a fact.

No, that is not a fact. How something feels is subjective, so because you and other people think its more comfortable, that doesn't mean they are more comfortable to everyone. In fact, to me, dome keyboards are more comfortable to use, but I use the shit out of keyboards and wanted to stop buying a new one every year because they stopped working.


Perhaps saying that they feel better was wrong by me, but I mean it's more tactile (better response) which most ppl think is way more comfortable.
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 20 2012 17:21 GMT
#82
Does anyone know what website Mvp is looking at?
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#83
I can recommend (if you can spare the extra cash) a mechanical keyboard. If you don't know what that is, simply google it and know that steelseries, filco, razer etc. make awesome keyboards (recommend the steelseries, or even better the filco, I ahve razer blackwidow myself). They feel fantastic, the tactile feel of a mech. keyboard is amazing. Having said that, I have never tried MVP's keyboard, but I'm quite happy with mine....
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ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:49:22
May 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#84
Koreans use them because it's cheap (in Korea) and it's Korean made (patriotic to buy your country's own products)

The keyboard doesn't magically make you better, those that sell for $50 each are ripoffs
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 20 2012 17:50 GMT
#85
Does anyone know what earplugs he uses?
DoA
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:57:12
May 20 2012 17:56 GMT
#86
The DT-35 is the best non-mechanical keyboard I've ever used. The key height, resistance, etc all feel pretty much perfect. They're a bit expensive to obtain in the US because they aren't normally sold here, but if you ever get to Korea I recommend picking up a couple. They were the equivalent of about $15 USD while I was there. There's a reason people pay $50 - $70 to get them shipped to the US. They really are that good.

That said, I do prefer my mechanical keyboard more. A lot of the progamers over there have been using DT-35s for years and years though so not many want to switch. Some do because of sponsorship reasons, but a lot (like MVP) still prefer to stick with what they're used to.

*EDIT* I'm somewhat of a keyboard nerd so I felt the need to jump in.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:58:34
May 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#87
On May 21 2012 02:48 ppshchik wrote:
Koreans use them because it's cheap (in Korea) and it's Korean made (patriotic to buy your country's own products)

The keyboard doesn't magically make you better, those that sell for $50 each are ripoffs

Hahahahaha. That patriot thing was really funny. Thanks.

Progamers use it because it's cheap and they're familiar with it, especially for ex-BW progamers.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 18:03:14
May 20 2012 18:02 GMT
#88
i'd love to get my hands on two cheap of these to make a checker keyboard. Apparently they have good enough quality/price to buy two of them and create my own checker keyboard :D
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
May 20 2012 18:04 GMT
#89
How has this not been closed yet -_-
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
May 20 2012 18:09 GMT
#90
bought mine on ebay for ~25 dollars (CAD)
better than any other non mechanical keyboard imo
and 1/3 of the price of a good mechanical keyboard
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Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
May 20 2012 18:12 GMT
#91
On May 21 2012 03:02 Mithriel wrote:
i'd love to get my hands on two cheap of these to make a checker keyboard. Apparently they have good enough quality/price to buy two of them and create my own checker keyboard :D

You actually get two checker keyboards
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
May 21 2012 11:52 GMT
#92
On May 21 2012 03:04 Karliath wrote:
How has this not been closed yet -_-


Because it's a perfectly viable and respectable thread where people are discussing the subject that is relevant?...
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
May 21 2012 11:54 GMT
#93
On May 20 2012 11:56 Garnet wrote:
I saw someone pouring water on it on Youtube so I copied trying to wash it, and it died.


you may have tried to plug it back in before it was completely dry.
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JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
May 21 2012 12:04 GMT
#94
On May 21 2012 01:53 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 01:07 JeffGoldblum wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:47 Thylacine wrote:
Rubber dome bad keyboard


Bad for what? Holding down 20 keys at the same time? That happens very often so mechanical is obviously better. O_O

The only differences that I know of between mechanical keys and domes is their life span(mechanical keys have an estimated 50 million keystroke life span, while domes only have 5 million), and the response(you don't have to press the key down completely for a response on mechanical keyboards).


Bought a Steelseries 6Gv2 a little over a year ago. Piece of shit broke a couple of months ago. The rubber dome kb I'm using now came with a computer I bought in 2003 and has been in use ever since. No problems with it.
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Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
May 21 2012 12:17 GMT
#95
On May 21 2012 03:04 Karliath wrote:
How has this not been closed yet -_-


For all we know this might turn into a Nada's Body kind of thread...
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 21 2012 12:19 GMT
#96
Let just say, not the mouse or keyboard makes a pro pro
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DDKz
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia188 Posts
May 21 2012 12:21 GMT
#97
On May 20 2012 12:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
dont buy it its a shitty keyboard, if u want mvp's skill lvl u need his fingers not his keyboard


First TT1 post I've seen in awhile that hasn't been complete shit, he's absolutely right. The keyboard is just a cheap standard keyboard, the reason it's popular with pros in Korea is that it's super cheap (not the case if you're a foreigner), easy to find and they're used to it because a lot of them have been using them for years.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 21 2012 12:37 GMT
#98
On May 21 2012 21:04 JeffGoldblum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 01:53 Ercster wrote:
On May 21 2012 01:07 JeffGoldblum wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:47 Thylacine wrote:
Rubber dome bad keyboard


Bad for what? Holding down 20 keys at the same time? That happens very often so mechanical is obviously better. O_O

The only differences that I know of between mechanical keys and domes is their life span(mechanical keys have an estimated 50 million keystroke life span, while domes only have 5 million), and the response(you don't have to press the key down completely for a response on mechanical keyboards).


Bought a Steelseries 6Gv2 a little over a year ago. Piece of shit broke a couple of months ago. The rubber dome kb I'm using now came with a computer I bought in 2003 and has been in use ever since. No problems with it.

You might have gotten a bad copy, my 6Gv2 is working perfectly and feels extremely robust.

That said, 6Gv2 isn't exactly the keyboard people have in mind when they think of the high quality of mechanical keyboards... 6Gv2 is so cheap that it's questionable if you can even call it a mechanical keyboard, even though it obviously is
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 21 2012 14:00 GMT
#99
I would not call the Steelseries keyboard cheap, and the price does not have to mean a keyboard is bad. At least the key switches themselves are all the same, so the most important part of the keyboard will be fine, no matter the price. The Steelseries feels much more robust than my Cherry G80-3000 I bought about ten years ago. A new Cherry G80-3000 only costs around 55 € at the moment (in Germany), and it still works and feels the same it always did after ten years of use.
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TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
May 21 2012 14:33 GMT
#100
Q-Senn DT-35, used only because it is very economical and does the job over there ( I think $5 a keyboard over there ) not because there is anything special about it. It costs $35 to get it in the US, this pretty much eliminates its value and thus there is no reason to really get one.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
May 21 2012 14:51 GMT
#101
MOD SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN NOOOOOW
+ Show Spoiler +
Or change to "Keyboard Discussion Thread"
Stop procrastinating
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
May 21 2012 15:24 GMT
#102
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.
Vita`
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden55 Posts
May 21 2012 15:40 GMT
#103
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.
GUTS
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 21 2012 15:44 GMT
#104
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 21 2012 15:51 GMT
#105
On May 21 2012 23:51 padfoota wrote:
MOD SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN NOOOOOW
+ Show Spoiler +
Or change to "Keyboard Discussion Thread"

lol trying to backseat mod?
GG good luck with that
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Vita`
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden55 Posts
May 21 2012 16:01 GMT
#106
On May 22 2012 00:44 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?


Well you see most of the pro-gamers with flashy stuff so I find that intresting. Im personally playing on a logitech crap from 2003 that I bought for what would be about 10 dollar or less. I find it fantastic.
GUTS
melty
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 16:41:55
May 21 2012 16:41 GMT
#107
On May 22 2012 01:01 Vita` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 00:44 Zoler wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?


Well you see most of the pro-gamers with flashy stuff so I find that intresting. Im personally playing on a logitech crap from 2003 that I bought for what would be about 10 dollar or less. I find it fantastic.


Players use the keyboards that they have to use due to their sponsors, none of them actually cares about macro buttons and all that stuff.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
May 21 2012 16:44 GMT
#108
On May 22 2012 01:01 Vita` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 00:44 Zoler wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?


Well you see most of the pro-gamers with flashy stuff so I find that intresting. Im personally playing on a logitech crap from 2003 that I bought for what would be about 10 dollar or less. I find it fantastic.

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a Korean progamer with a so-called "flashy" keyboard. Almost all of them use the DT-35, though i know that the Startale team uses Zowie Celeritas.
What a player
Vita`
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden55 Posts
May 21 2012 17:15 GMT
#109
On May 22 2012 01:44 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 01:01 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:44 Zoler wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?


Well you see most of the pro-gamers with flashy stuff so I find that intresting. Im personally playing on a logitech crap from 2003 that I bought for what would be about 10 dollar or less. I find it fantastic.

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a Korean progamer with a so-called "flashy" keyboard. Almost all of them use the DT-35, though i know that the Startale team uses Zowie Celeritas.


I guess neither have I tbh. Mostly seen western programers with that kind of stuff when I think about it.
GUTS
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 21 2012 17:24 GMT
#110
On May 22 2012 02:15 Vita` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 01:44 MentalGNT wrote:
On May 22 2012 01:01 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:44 Zoler wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:40 Vita` wrote:
On May 22 2012 00:24 Shrewmy wrote:
I don't understand why people immediately get obsessed with a specific keyboard that a player has.

The keyboard does not make the player.


Did someone even say that? I think its intresting that he doesnt have one of those flashy logitech or razer crap with like a thousand macro buttons.


How is that interesting? Is it interesting that Starcraft pros are actually smart enough to understand that the mouse and keyboard you use doesn't mean shit?


Well you see most of the pro-gamers with flashy stuff so I find that intresting. Im personally playing on a logitech crap from 2003 that I bought for what would be about 10 dollar or less. I find it fantastic.

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a Korean progamer with a so-called "flashy" keyboard. Almost all of them use the DT-35, though i know that the Startale team uses Zowie Celeritas.


I guess neither have I tbh. Mostly seen western programers with that kind of stuff when I think about it.


To be fair to western pro-gamers nearly every team on the scene has a gear sponsor and who wouldn't take what is probably a free keyboard that normally costs anywhere from $60 to $100? Also I'm sure some of the bigger teams require their players to use their sponsors equipment during big events (see SK forcing their players to use Gunnars during live events or be fired)
Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
May 22 2012 01:16 GMT
#111
On May 20 2012 11:57 polyphonyEX wrote:
If you're looking to become a better player, brand of keyboard won't help you much. It's nothing special and it's pretty much the same thing as the cheapest logitech/microsoft keyboard.

protip: don't waste your money and just practice


The type of hardware does matter as it's a manner of being comfortable. If you're able to be comfortable with a QSENN, that's great. I wouldn't play without a mechanical keyboard anymore as that's comfy for me. That's why it's not "pretty much the same thing"

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gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
May 22 2012 01:28 GMT
#112
On May 20 2012 11:57 polyphonyEX wrote:
If you're looking to become a better player, brand of keyboard won't help you much. It's nothing special and it's pretty much the same thing as the cheapest logitech/microsoft keyboard.

protip: don't waste your money and just practice


This.

However for those who are loaded, its not wrong to spend some bucks and get yourself a black widow ultimate or something, Its gaming afterall u want urself to feel good when you are gaming isn't it? a keyboard can really makes u feel good
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gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
May 22 2012 01:33 GMT
#113
By the way i agree that keyboard is not so much a priority for the gamers. However its better that u invest some money in a good mouse. The accuracy of a mouse is really important on face paced gaming
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Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 22 2012 01:45 GMT
#114
On May 21 2012 23:51 padfoota wrote:
MOD SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN NOOOOOW
+ Show Spoiler +
Or change to "Keyboard Discussion Thread"

At 6 pages, I think the mods have seen it, talked about it, and decided to leave it open for a reason. Also i hear they dont like back-seat modding.
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
May 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#115
On May 22 2012 10:45 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 23:51 padfoota wrote:
MOD SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN NOOOOOW
+ Show Spoiler +
Or change to "Keyboard Discussion Thread"

At 6 pages, I think the mods have seen it, talked about it, and decided to leave it open for a reason. Also i hear they dont like back-seat modding.


A bad OP is still a bad OP.
Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
May 23 2012 22:07 GMT
#116
I heard the Nada's Body thread started with a bad OP too
Anyway, would a Filco be good purchase for me? (never had a mechanical keyboard but thinking about buying one)
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 23 2012 22:20 GMT
#117
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