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deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
May 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#1701
On May 02 2012 04:44 Vlare wrote:
He should have just called Warden a retard or something, rather than throwing in terms like faggot and gook. No point starting up all this bullshit drama when he could have taken an extra 5seconds to think about it and just tell warden he was an idiot or whatever he felt.

Oh well /sigh.

I'm curious to see how this pans out.



lol so retard is ok!!

this whole thread is ridiculous..it's the internet.

there are 2 reasons i started watching destiny

1. his rage / attitude
2. stream quality

everyone has a high quality stream these days..
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
May 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#1702
It's good to know some things never change, such as Destiny, his fans or the delusional characters that think they can change the word by declaring they got offended over something someone said over the internet.

This has been discussed before and the results of these types of discussions are ALWAYS the same in that we can conclude two things afterwards, sometimes Destiny uses curse words and it offends people.

Literally that's it, i don't know why you would bother bringing it up again seeing as the same thing is going to happen.
I'm probably being ironic
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:51:05
May 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#1703
its funny to see some teams taking this mattr srsly and then some who do nothing about it at all. EG took the orb thing seriously, so y not quantic. people saying that they do care about it saying its bad for esports, its almost the opposite. when new sponsers are looking to sponser a team, do u think they want to go into something that is open to racism without consequences? If anything it will drive sponsers away and fause the scene to decay before it even reaches its peak. Destiny should be punished or suspended from tournament play. plus how old is he? and hes still making childish remarks and being a sore loser. there are other ways to be a sore loser.

new sponsers comming into esports will be driven out because they dont want to be associated with people or teams who do not discipline their players. quantic should punish him if they want to look like a reputable team, and have destiny come out and apoligize to the fans, the community.


my 2 cents
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
May 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#1704
On May 02 2012 04:40 ePLocust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:31 Argolis wrote:
If you don't like it, don't watch it....? Why would you contact a sponsor?

User was warned for this post

The person being offended was playing ladder not watching destiny's stream. Also, this type of action is pretty inappropriate for someone who wants to be a professional


Question, does the mature language filter block filter the word "gook", I assume it does since it blocks basically every other word that is even close to being inappropriate. If you don't have the mature language filter checked you shouldn't really be complaining if someone uses a word you find inappropriate. Especially given the option is default to marked sothat words are filtered out meaning you had to manually go into the options and say you wanted to see words that were considered inappropriate..
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:53:43
May 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#1705

Ok, honestly, who cares? The reality is this is a topic people will always be torn on. If Destiny's words offend you then great, that's your prerogative. Don't support him, don't watch his stream, don't watch his games or showmatches. If it offends you that Quantic carries a player like him then don't support them, don't buy from their sponsors, etc. Personally I would think you're overreacting, but again it's entirely your call.

Why is it so hard to do that and move on with your life? It's ludicrous to to demand Destiny stop his actions, be unfeatured, be kicked from his team, etc, because at that point you're trying to impose your highly subjective (and honestly thin-skinned) views on an entire community. Quantic will do what they want to do. Again, if the player offends you don't watch and support him, but also don't try to impose your ideas on everyone and stop those of us who feel differently, or who simply don't care, from enjoying his stream.

Also the notion that one player can reflect on the community in any meaningful way is stupid. If people are going to think less and draw generalizations about the sc2 community because 1 player out of hundreds behaves a certain way on his stream then those people are stupid and in the vast minority.
Dodge arrows
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
May 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#1706
I think that destiny should watch what he says. I know he does it to entertain his stream watchers, but for those who dont know it makes him look like a terrible racist person.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#1707
On May 02 2012 04:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
What the fuck guys.

If you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that ONE RACE is SUPERIOR to another - you are an IGNORANT FUCKING LUNATIC.

THE ONLY reason that these words were EVER offensive was the CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY WERE USED.

Its fucking 2012 - the most fucking offensive term these days in the US is probably "sandnigger" because racist fucking lunatics actually think that people of Middle-Eastern/Arabic descent are inferior. And that's just pure, dumb, stupid, ignorance. And honestly it stems from the fact that these idiots are pants-shitting xenophobics. They are SO AFRAID of a group of people that they resort to dehumanizing them.

That makes you a racist. It also makes you a fucking dumbass.

Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE that Destiny is like "Oh God, not another Korean! I hate these guys, they all look alike and they've got no Seoul cause they Seould it to get good at SC!"?

If so than you're fucking dumb.

Seems suspicious that he happened to land on the word "gook" while playing vs. a korean huh?
Maruprime.
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#1708
On May 02 2012 01:11 chatuka wrote:
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On May 02 2012 01:07 Destiny wrote:
Sigh, I promised myself I wouldn't dive into this thread, but I can't resist...

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:So just because you are a player means you can act like an immature teenager, ignorant to other people's feelings and devoid of any human empathy? Destiny doesn't have empathy because if he knew what the words meant to some people, he would stop using them. His opinions that either its "stupid" or "illogical" to have such negative feelings attached to racial words just means that he simply does not understand individuality.


"Ignorant to other people's feelings"? Maybe if I spammed him with messages after the game, or added him and told my stream to harass and stalk him. Maybe if I messaged him on Skype or sent him e-mails. Calling someone a nigger/faggot/gook/cheese/piece of shit/queer/mother fucker/step-mother fucker etc...at the end of a game before leaving? You honestly think that people who rage at the end of games lack empathy? You should be a psychiatrist!

If I knew what WHAT words meant to WHAT people? Lots of people find different words offensive. List of possible offensive words -

faggot - offensive to the gay community
nigger - offensive to the black community
gook - offensive to asians(?)
spic - offensive to hispanics
retarded - offensive to mentally challenged
rape - offensive to rape victims
snipe - offensive to war veterans
nuke - offensive to descendants of hiroshima survivors
grammar nazi - offensive to descendants of concentration camp survivors
murdered - offensive to people who've experienced death in family
cancer on the community - offensive to people who've suffered from cancer

Now, here's the fun part. Without sounding like a bigot, I want you to tell me which words I can and cannot say, and why certain groups of people are special enough to have certain words not said for them, and the others are unworthy of said "protected status". Good luck!

I love this at the end..."His opinions that either its "stupid" or "illogical" to have such negative feelings attached to racial words just means that he simply does not understand individuality."

Because nothing says individuality like taking offense to a simple word spoken out of context that at one point in time was used to insult a collective group of individuals.

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:Destiny holds that his opinions are right and really does not have any room to be wrong because of how "logical" and "good with people" he is.


Eh, I could be humble here, but nah, fuck that. I'm pretty damned good with people. Ask anyone who sees me at any MLG, I'll stop and sign anything or take a picture with anyone, regardless of the length of the line. People that you guys hold to much higher "friendly" standards, though, such as Day9, Huk, Nony, and others? They SPLIT the second they think a crowd is gathering and they do their best to stay away from any places where they could be mobbed.

So how do you judge whether someone is "good with people"? Is it based on the facade they put up when they know they're under the public eye? Or is it based on how they actually interact with other people?


On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:Clearly any human being would understand that just because you feel like they are just words, doesn't mean they aren't hundreds of years of history for person.


Ah, my bad. I was unaware of the several hundred year old stream viewers I have. I'll try to cater to that audience more.

Seriously, though? You want me to cater to an audience of people that define themselves based on some insulting words that someone said about their ancestors hundreds of years ago? If we played that game, there are tons of other words we should cut out of our dictionary (for just black people, I can think of the word "boy", "negro", and "colored", and I'm sure there are many more for many other groups of people).

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:I really hope this man (yes, sadly he is a man, not a child, or we could forgive his foolishness without a second thought) experiences some of the hardship that others have experienced in the past. Maybe it will come in the form of income inequality or maybe in the form of his child being bullied at school. Maybe then he will learn his lesson that he should respect other cultures and other people if he wants to be respected himself: that respect is earned and not a right.


Ah, now here, I'm going to have to call you a brainless fucking piece of shit. I can't even believe you would have the audacity to fucking call me out on something like that. You have absolutely no fucking idea what I have or haven't experienced in my past. A lot of the immature and childish bullshit that you call "hardship" (OH NO SOMEONE SAID NIGGER, OH GOD HE SAID FAGGOT, OH NO HE MADE FUN OF MY PANTS) PALES in comparison to a lot of the shit I've had to deal with in my life. Maybe the difference in perspective is one of the reasons why I'm able to look past absolutely pointless bullshit like this and someone like you turns it into the focal point of a huge discussion. You want my child to get bullied in high school? Seriously, I would dedicate all 130 lbs of my tiny frame into the beating the shit out of you if I ever saw you in person wishing that on my son. If you think the only way to learn respect about someone else is to suffer, then you're sadly misguided, and incredibly stupid.

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:That's my two cents. I don't watch his stream because it provides him income to continue what he's doing.


Honestly, this should have been the only thing you wrote in your post. I agree 100% with this. If you don't like the things I say or the way I act, don't watch my stream. Less people watching me = less money for me, meaning I either A) have to change the way I behave, or B) fade away from the public eye.

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:I think any community that is a community at all would see his stream has a negative impact on it and would seek to prevent it by de-listing his stream.


Negative impact on the community? I have the most viewer hours of any current SC2 streamer. You don't think that counts for anything?

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:Clearly he does not paint an accurate picture of our community of gamers and e-sports.


Ah, that's why so many people watch me. I understand now.

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:Why would we want to be associated with such a bigoted person with such ignorance that encompasses many of the stereotypes that non-gamers have against us. That we are trash-talking immature button mashers that rage and argue like children.


ITT: someone wishing that someone else's child gets bullied in high school, then calling that person ignorant because he uses bad words on the internet.

On May 02 2012 00:44 SherlockTV wrote:Seriously people, stop watching his shit. Its not entertaining and its not funny and its not even educational. Its a waste of time and its very negative just to listen to his logic and world views.


Educational...I lol'd.

how lame of you trying to defend yourself. I already contacted quantic and razer about this. You have no excuses whatsoever as a professional gamer. if you want to act like Destiny on your own personal streams, that's great, welcome to the freedom of expression. Otherwise, you are accountable as a team-member of Quantic. you will be held accountable.

So you say he can act how he wants on his own personal stream while complaining about what he is doing on his own personal stream. Good post, bro.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#1709
On May 02 2012 04:48 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:40 ePLocust wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:31 Argolis wrote:
If you don't like it, don't watch it....? Why would you contact a sponsor?

User was warned for this post

The person being offended was playing ladder not watching destiny's stream. Also, this type of action is pretty inappropriate for someone who wants to be a professional


Question, does the mature language filter block filter the word "gook", I assume it does since it blocks basically every other word that is even close to being inappropriate. If you don't have the mature language filter checked you shouldn't really be complaining if someone uses a word you find inappropriate. Especially given the option is default to marked sothat words are filtered out meaning you had to manually go into the options and say you wanted to see words that were considered inappropriate..


How about being insulted while 4000 people are watching? Can he be complaining then?
#1 Grubby Fan.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1710
EG set the precedent by responding to this mindless internet babbling, and now the "community" expects Quantic to do the same.

We'll see.

Are the pitchforks really pointy?
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1711
for the people who felt offended, email quantic gaming and tell them you think destiny's a racist asshole.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1712
Okay, so you clicked on it and you didn't like it. Turn it off and don't watch it again.

If you turn on your TV guide, you tune into a show you've never heard of before. Family Guy, that sounds wholesome and family oriented. 30 seconds in, you are offended, what do you do?

Contact the station/companies involved and tell them you are no longer buying any products featured in the commercials because you are offended?

OR

Just don't watch it

Again with this. You can't compare the two.

Compare this to someone who is a big face in some other sport. Say a Derek Jeter for baseball or a Kobe Bryant for basketball. Do you think they wouldn't see any action against them if they said these choice words to someone they were playing against while thousands of people watched? No, they WOULD see some sort of action against them for its been done in the past and present.
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Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1713
It is amazing the lengths people will go to to deny or excuse racism. Some of the relations made in this thread just wow...MKP crying in booth to chatting Racial slurs after a game...really?

I have my opinions about destiny as a player/person, but just as a paid professional player/and indirect spokesman for sc2 community as a professional player...he should be reprimanded in some way for his behavior. I am sure that other players have a skeleton in their closet or haven't acted always in the correct manner, but not EVERYONE knows about it, and it certainly isn't their main appeal. Destiny has every right to say whatever he wants and act however he wants, but he should not expect to be considered a professional in sc2 or be supported by team or mainstream companies for doing so. It lies with those parties to decide how he is representing their company and sc2.

I would not personally go as far to write razer or Quantic about destinys actions, because I am lazy, don't care, and am not overly offended ( even though i think it was wrong and he should not be saying those things anywhere... However I don't agree with the argument that its going to hurt esports by holding players accountable for their actions in their professional setting ( yes playing sc2 for them is a professional setting no matter practice or tournament). Do we honestly think that we are going to sweep all this blatant immaturity and racism under the rug and just become some mainstream sport? This stuff needs to be purged from the community and scene if any of that ever wants to happen, and sorry to say, personalities like destiny have to go with it, at least in the professional end of things.
I guess i would say that while destinys behavior is completely unacceptable on so many levels, the community has been just as bad attacking the OP. He didn't do anything but bring this to the publics attention. Also condeming people for speaking out to sponsors or teams is just as legitamate a response as saying its ok, i dont care. So just chill out, let people decide for themselves what the proper course of action is, and I am willing to bet that there will be repercussions. If not, sc2 isn't ready for the mainstream, and thats probably fine too.
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1714
On May 02 2012 04:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
What the fuck guys.

If you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that ONE RACE is SUPERIOR to another - you are an IGNORANT FUCKING LUNATIC.

THE ONLY reason that these words were EVER offensive was the CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY WERE USED.

Its fucking 2012 - the most fucking offensive term these days in the US is probably "sandnigger" because racist fucking lunatics actually think that people of Middle-Eastern/Arabic descent are inferior. And that's just pure, dumb, stupid, ignorance. And honestly it stems from the fact that these idiots are pants-shitting xenophobics. They are SO AFRAID of a group of people that they resort to dehumanizing them.

That makes you a racist. It also makes you a fucking dumbass.

Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE that Destiny is like "Oh God, not another Korean! I hate these guys, they all look alike and they've got no Seoul cause they Seould it to get good at SC!"?

If so then you're fucking dumb.



Regardless of if its racist or not, this attitude is close to as bad as the one of Destiny. You need to calm down, posting emotionally fueled stuff like this doesn't help anyone.
willll
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States73 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1715
On May 02 2012 04:33 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:29 SimDawg wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:20 Primadog wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:08 Derrida wrote:
It's incredible this is still being labeled as a witch hunt of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin an "established figure" of Starcraft II scene.

Those of us who think this kind of behavior should not be tolerated are not arguing with people who are okay with it. Most of the people who are offended would turn to Destiny for an explanation. And Destiny said he doesn't give a fuck. So, if people are still offended and not persuaded by the offenders' justification/response/apology, it is within their power to pursue this as they wish.

However, most of the people who are okay with this behavior are just arguing through ad hominems, or trying to prove that being offended by this behavior is a sign of no-lifers. If you are okay with it, how about trying to understand that some people genuinely have a problem with this kind of language in general, or this kind of language in starcraft II as an e-sports in particular. You don't really help the situation by saying "ur trying to fuck destiny in the ass."


Nobody say it should be condoned. Majority of the ones against this witchhunt is against it because the proponents are explicitly targetting sponsors. These type of vigilante justice will result in significant collateral damage to the scene, as explained by iNcontroL, Alex Garfield, and Jason Lake.


On May 02 2012 02:03 iNcontroL wrote:
On May 02 2012 01:55 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 02 2012 01:54 noidontthinkso wrote:
On May 02 2012 01:52 iNcontroL wrote:
mailing sponsors instead of the team is so completely fucked up and horrible.

mail the SHIT out of quantic. If they don't do anything or say anything for a few weeks.. make threads, tweet, write more letters to quantic.. but by no means at all should you mail sponsors with things like that.

Razer sponsors a lot more than just destiny or even quantic.. by one man's error you are potentially making it worse for a LOT of people.

Even if you disagree with what I said you could probably agree that quantic deserves a chance to respond before you start emailing sponsors.



well, when its enough then its enough

and for me, the absolute limit is reached

so u aim for the head, since quantic does not seem to care about destiny at all


did the orb story hurted esports sponsoring? no.



Yes, you just don't see it.
What doesn't come forward or public doesn't mean it didn't have the intention to do so before.


I know everyone has the ability to post on TL so I guess I shouldn't be responding but it's important that other people know I guess: Yes, emailing EG's sponsors with the orb situation DID have a negative effect.

EG is fortunate enough to have amazing fans who on a regular basis email our sponsors and tell em they love em and appreciate what they do for eSports. That was needed because of the people that emailed saying EG sponsors/supports a racist. Sponsors don't read every thread, they don't check forums, they don't watch every tweet.. when they get an email there is a dangerous possibility that is the ONLY message from that situation they are getting. Emails aren't filtered or edited for fairness they are 90% the emotional response from someone (when the situation is like an orb/destiny) and it's the first draft. Those emails can cause real damage in a industry (SC2) that isn't shitting gold.. we are fighting for survival.

I understand you hear all the time: email sponsors! Tell em you love em! and I could understand the argument "well they need to hear the good with the bad." But that is dangerous for us. Destiny doesn't represent all of Quantic nor does he represent all of the community but when you email the sponsors about a relatively small issue you can potentially cause gargantuan ripples in a place where we can't afford said ripples.

Just please trust me on this.. email the shit out of quantic. Tweet the shit out of them. Post on TL about how upset you are.. but do NOT email sponsors threatening them with things and telling them one side of a small story.



On March 09 2012 12:42 ottersareneat wrote:

*For those of you who complained to our sponsors: if you're satisfied with what I've written here, please re-contact them to let them know you're happy with us - really, please do it.

For those of you who didn't initially complain, but are satisfied with this post nonetheless, I'd also ask that you contact our sponsors to let them know you support us.

I would also ask that, in the future, if you're unhappy with something that happens in eSports, you guys give the offending party a chance to respond and/or act before seeking vigilante justice via contacting said party's sponsors.



starting 3:30


You're pretty naive. Now I'm not really picking sides in this debate, but the hypocrisy from these guys on this subject is ridiculous.

They're getting sponsored by these companies!!!

These guys are saying that because anything they do, they get the ability to apologize, explain it away, or deal with their managers instead of the real world. Their livelihood directly depends on this crap. But does it actually effect esports?? Of course not. Orb getting removed from casting the MC doesn't mean anything. And the fact is esports is moving so fast that sponsors aren't going to leave the scene, they're going to transfer their loyalty from one team/person to another.

By bringing this to sponsors you're causing these people additional headaches, you're not hurting esports.

Think for yourself man, don't listen to these talking heads constantly. They're great if you need to brush up on your PvZ but in real life they're out for themselves, just like everyone else.


Sponsors' first decision is not one team over another (or one player over another), it's whether they want to spend marketing dollars on esports or sports or tv marketing. There's nothing misleading about anything they said.

Trust me on this. I was one of the first sc2 competition sponsors, and my company exited the scene for good reasons (it aint worth the effort).

Contacting sponsors forces team action. If sponsors leave, then teams will be a lot more responsible about who they bring on their team. Emailing Quantic brings distant pain (loss of a fan/viewer), emailing their sponsor brings more direct pain (loss of money). While it may hurt the scene in the short run, it will also make it clear that sponsors have no stomach for racial slurs.
"A true man's pride should be his zealots." -Reach
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1716
On May 02 2012 04:49 Corrosive wrote:
Seems suspicious that he happened to land on the word "gook" while playing vs. a korean huh?

But that's not true.
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TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
May 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#1717
This guy is a piece of shit. I will never watch nor respect him ever as a pro gamer. If he wants to become better he needs to change his attitude and his vision. Otherwise he's just another average pro gamer who can't win anything.

User was temp banned for this post.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
ownyah
Profile Joined April 2012
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:53:31
May 01 2012 19:51 GMT
#1718
I wonder why no mod has closed this thread yet.. It has no meaning or value whatsoever..
Filled with flame, bias and overly exaggerated posts..


On May 02 2012 04:50 TriO wrote:
This guy is a piece of shit. I will never watch nor respect him ever as a pro gamer. If he wants to become better he needs to change his attitude and his vision. Otherwise he's just another average pro gamer who can't win anything.


Do you actually know what the word ``pro`` means?
Also please refrain from contradiction... I'm not sure about the two parts, how they hold any value in the comment..?

User was warned for this post
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
May 01 2012 19:52 GMT
#1719
On May 02 2012 04:02 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:55 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.


So when you see people like MKP sit in the booth and cry after a loss, they shouldn't be doing that? Destiny is expressing his displeasure in a different way. If the original poster really got offended over what some one on the internet said to him, he needs to take a step back and examine his life. The problem isn't with Destiny, it's with him.


so crying in your booth out of happiness you won a championship is the same thing as calling someone a fucking nigger ?
Awesome logic bro.
Ppl who need to use racial slurs and BM their enemys in hurtfull manner should be outcasts in this community but some (mainly americans) seem to enjoy BM way to much.
I also noticed this in other games, and even sports....
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On May 02 2012 04:08 DKR wrote:
I agree with the view that the orb reaction/Destiny reaction are at odds with one another for the same thing. The Orb reaction was too far, the destiny one not far enough. the bronze through gold redditers who hang off destiny's every word seem to be dominating this, the guy should loose his featured streaming for a period of time at the very least. Let Quantic deal with his status as their player however.

I fear the reasonable posts will be lost in a sea of reddit-style idiocy tbh though :/


I agree with this. Granted the difference is orb denied doing what he did (which turned out to be a lie) but when the screenshot came up everyone started digging in to find more cases of orb doing it to crucify him. Here all those same people are defending destiny. Here I will bring up the same question I brought up in that thread about maximusblack or whatever the guy is. Does TL.net, and SC2 in general REALLY want to be represented by streamers who's only real reason for popularity is their bad manners and racial slurs and insults and childish behavior?

Does TL.net REALLY want to be featuring a guy who's only real "offer" is his BM childish behavior that draws in a bunch of the reddit people and kids who still think swearing is cool? Is this the kind of thing that we want to feature and highlight as something that brings in viewers? I personally think destiny should be de featured or completely taken off TL and/or twitch.tv until he can prove that he is capable of acting like an actual adult instead of like a child.
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