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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
Is he institutionally racist? Yes. The difference? He says racist things because he lives in a culture that is okay with saying those things aloud--it isn't with malicious intent that he says those things. Is it still a problem? Yes. Is the problem with Destiny? No--the problem is with the community he is in. What community is that? American gamers. How do you fix American gamers? Fix america. That sounds stupid. Because it is. | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:16 nullmind wrote: If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com. No, this is exactly what EG hated about the orb situation. This is Quantic's problem and contacting their sponsor harms the entire eSports scene, contact Quantic directly instead. If you're one of the people considering doing this DON'T. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:19 Meshu wrote: Uhhh, noone said he wasn't allowed to 'be human and do mistakes'. It's not like this is a one-off, dude. Nothing about what I said insinuated he wasn't allowed that. I'm just curious as to why you think it should be promoted and why he shouldn't be held accountable for what he says? Not a loaded question at all. | ||
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m2e
United States108 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:16 nullmind wrote: If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com. Seriously, you're an ASSHOLE if you start going after sponsors. Get that lame ass pitchfork wielding bullshit out of here and go back to reddit with that mentality... | ||
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thingULTRA
United States48 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Manske
United States3 Posts
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:16 nullmind wrote: If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com. No dammit, the same issue was brought up before. At least give QxG a chance to respond before e-mailing sponsors, which are so pivotal in the growth of the scene at this point. There's the old saying that gets tossed around 'hurting esports', but directly e-mailing sponsors as a knee jerk reaction to something you don't like is actually potentially so harmful to the scene. Please, at least wait. | ||
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noidontthinkso
Greece94 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:35 tomatriedes wrote: If Destiny had said 'nigger' rather than 'gook' would everybody be so blasé? he does say it.. alot of times lol | ||
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-KarakStarcraft-
United States258 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:19 lorkac wrote: Is he intentionally racist? Probably not. Is he institutionally racist? Yes. The difference? He says racist things because he lives in a culture that is okay with saying those things aloud--it isn't with malicious intent that he says those things. Is it still a problem? Yes. Is the problem with Destiny? No--the problem is with the community he is in. What community is that? American gamers. How do you fix American gamers? Fix america. That sounds stupid. Because it is. This is actually a rather cogent post. Well said. | ||
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partisan
United States783 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:17 ssg wrote: Please don't email razer. Hit destiny and quantic hard if you must, but the last thing this scene is less sponsors If the community is aware of the effect this has on sponsorships, then teams will avoid signing players with baggage in the future. | ||
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SCampbell
Canada5 Posts
Additionally, he represents Razer and Quantic Gaming. We should put aside our personal biases and see this as a case of such a representative using a racial slur within the context of his professional work. Realistically, Destiny should be expelled from Quantic Gaming, and sponsorship pulled by Razer. SC2 has a reputation for relative politeness when compared with other gaming communities. Destiny's actions, and those who defend the use of such racial slur, are equally culpable in dragging SC2 in a direction which helps nobody, and harms the community in spirit and reputation. | ||
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SolidSMD
Belgium408 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:03 nullmind wrote: I can't believe how some people are defending him with statements like 'he was always like that so who cares' 'get over it' 'grow up and stop bitching about little thing'. Not to offend who are new to TL but I've noticed most of the people who make these ignorant posts are people under 100 posts.. Lol, I'm offended! So because some people have less than 100 posts their opinion is worthless? Most people above 100 posts are the ones that have to say something about everything, everyone should know their opinions. So in comparison, your post here is less worth because you have made so many posts in total (see how that makes as much sense?). I don't speak up that often, although I've followed discussions on this forum for a long time, so say what you want about my <100 posts. Destiny is funny when he rages and like everyone can notice, he isn't serious about the things he says and doesn't lie about saying those things. Half this community rages hard on ladder and bm's all the time, should we now pull off a witchhunt on them by making a blacklist of those people? I mean come on, loosen up a little. Best friends call each other names for fun, because they know it doesn't mean shit. To OP, if you would actually try to bond with destiny by acknowledging you play cheesy, you actually would like him. Instead, you play like a dick and rub it in people's faces by throwing out an aggressive gg, in my eyes, you're as bad as destiny. Whole this thread ins't necessary... | ||
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Meshu
Australia17 Posts
Well he responded to my post regarding other public figures, so I assume there's a reason for that aside from it just being 'a mistake'. The promotion part was my mistake, really. I'd made another post regarding that and with all the quotes I got a bit confused. Still, without the promotion aspect it's a valid question I would've thought. | ||
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-KarakStarcraft-
United States258 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:21 MegaFonzie wrote: No dammit, the same issue was brought up before. At least give QxG a chance to respond before e-mailing sponsors, which are so pivotal in the growth of the scene at this point. There's the old saying that gets tossed around 'hurting esports', but directly e-mailing sponsors as a knee jerk reaction to something you don't like is actually potentially so harmful to the scene. Please, at least wait. Because, of course, QxG was unaware of this issue before? I'm trying not to take a stance for or against, but this line of logic doesn't make sense. I think if the user genuinely feels the way he does, his action is fine. QxG is well aware of all of this and was when they signed him. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:17 Zaqwert wrote: And the ironic thing is you're probably one of those people who considers yourself a bastion of tolerance and understanding. awesome ad hominem  Nice way to not have an argument | ||
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Qwix
531 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:21 Aunvilgod wrote: I really dislike Quantic for allowing Destiny to stay on their team.They pretty much trade professionalism for money. Horrible team. As for the above comment and many others, in nearly every foreign team popularity > everything. They are a business, there's a reason Quantic hires people like Destiny and that's definatly not because of his skill. | ||
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AKomrade
United States582 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:21 partisan wrote: If the community is aware of the effect this has on sponsorships, then teams will avoid signing players with baggage in the future. Thats dumb, people change. | ||
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noidontthinkso
Greece94 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:18 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh it's "our" scene? What do you contribute to it exactly? I know that Destiny has contributed a lot more than you did. Funny to hear you calling him scum yet you're offended by what he says? Cool logic bro. That being said, I'm not a fan of his racial slurs and I'd rather if he stopped using them but who the hell am I to tell him wtf he should or shouldn't do? I don't have to watch him if I don't want to. Scum is a racist slur now? Saying our does not in any way imply that I contribute more than he does. We are all a part of the SC2 community, believe it or not. | ||
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