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Manske
Profile Joined November 2011
United States3 Posts
May 01 2012 15:14 GMT
#461
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partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
May 01 2012 15:14 GMT
#462
On May 02 2012 00:14 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:11 Karak wrote:
The stark contrast between this thread and the Orb thread is rather amazing. Both are "community figures" who profit off of pushing their personality. In fact, a majority of Destiny's success is based off of his personality, not his results in tournament play.

Destiny is open about his choice of words and defend against it.
Orb lied several times about the usage of racial comments.

There is a huge difference :S


Only if you think lying is the issue
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
May 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#463
On May 02 2012 00:14 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:11 Karak wrote:
The stark contrast between this thread and the Orb thread is rather amazing. Both are "community figures" who profit off of pushing their personality. In fact, a majority of Destiny's success is based off of his personality, not his results in tournament play.

Destiny is open about his choice of words and defend against it.
Orb lied several times about the usage of racial comments.

There is a huge difference :S


This is a fair point, but had he admitted to it and continued to use such language, do you think Orb would have lasted in EG?
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#464
I think what the eSports scene needs is a instructional video by Sheth on how players should act.

Only then could we avoid issues like this!
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
nullmind
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
1303 Posts
May 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#465
If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
May 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#466
On May 02 2012 00:07 sereniity wrote:
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On May 01 2012 23:49 chatuka wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:39 v4de wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:
To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +
and other places I suppose
surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game.

Blows my mind.


it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much.

I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion.

slurs for

Polish
English
Irish
Italians

etcetera

none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity.


Are you saying i will get mad if someone calls me a polack? or Cracker? lol i dont care, it is just name calling and was invented for making fun of people based on nationality and race. There are black people at my school calling everyone a nigger. These words don't mean anything

I applaud you for your tough skin. I certainly wouldn't like it if Destiny called me a gook or whatever I was. that's my angle.
If the slur came from some nobody,it wouldn't hurt that bad. But Professional SC2 players who use racial slurs, that is pretty shocking.


Why would you take offense from him? The only thing he does better than you is play starcraft 2 most likely, so why would you take offense from him, but not some random?


i know, what you are trying to get it. I see your point. We should treat humans equally and if life was fair,
everybody would be evaluated equally for what actions and decisions they commit to.

However the truth is far from your utopian society that you have suggested. Professional players =/= normal casual gamers. When money and sponsorship is on the line in a global sport like SC2, there has to be a CODE of Conduct from
Professional Players.

The goal of any team is to Earn $. In order to earn the money, they need sponsors. Sponsors want
a successful team that is openly marketable to all global markets. If some player upsets that business model and
offends a huge asian fanbase, sponsorship will decrease, the Team will make less money, and eventually the team dies.
Offending asian companies like Samsung is also a huge risk that QUantic is also exposing themselves to by not
disciplining Destiny. Samsung would be a great sponsor for any SC2 team. That asian company has more money than
a greedy Dragon. They would make any team rich.

That is the reality that SC2 faces. Ordinary gamers do not have that kind of responsibility. They do not have to be the
bread-winners for a team/organization.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#467
Holy shit, just leading the first page this thread disgusts me. People get Orb fired from his job with a witch hunt that lasts for a whole month for saying the n word. Destiny says something similar and people are telling the guy he said it to, to grow some balls.

Destiny fanboys are fucking hilarious. Can't wait for this scum to disappear from our scene.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
May 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#468
On May 02 2012 00:14 Manske wrote:
People actually get offended by racial slurs?

The average destiny fan right here
canSore
Profile Joined November 2010
132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:17:46
May 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#469
On May 01 2012 22:16 WardenSC wrote:
I was playing vs QuanticDestiny a few hours ago where he was calling me a "gook" and a bunch of offensive words. Now I understand that one may get frustrated if he/she loses in a game (I've been there myself). I also understand that it is his stream and he may say that he can do whatever the hell he wants in his stream. However, he stands now as a "community figure" who has the reach to influence thousands of viewers daily and can skew the public's view of sc2 community in an extremely negative direction.

Isn't it reasonable to expect a level of professionalism from a player that plays on a professional team? I just don't think spurting out racial slurs left and right in front of a large audience is why Quantic sponsors Destiny to market their team.

As a note, I don't think QuanticDestiny is a true racist. However, I do believe that ignorance towards his excessive use of racial slurs would eventually lead to tolerance within the community and that would be a very dangerous outcome.






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WardenSC

I agree with you. I'm offended by his language as well. Destiny is popular and featured on this website. I've seen people get in trouble for a lot less. It's unacceptable behavior, and it's too bad TL is ignoring this issue.
bad with girls, good with zerg
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
May 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#470
Can't wait for this scum to disappear from our scene.


And the ironic thing is you're probably one of those people who considers yourself a bastion of tolerance and understanding.
iwearcapes
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
France157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:19:33
May 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#471
please mods just remove this pointless thread. we all get it . destiny is a racist(or he isnt) IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER KEEP DESTINY'S NAME OUT OF UR MOUTH OP

and if people say they are offended they just want to look important to the community cause in all honest. its jsut words that have no value to the world. grow up. dont watch destiny if u find him obnoxious. this is ruining e-sports by making threads like this

/thread


User was warned for this post
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
May 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#472
On May 02 2012 00:16 nullmind wrote:
If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com.

Please don't email razer. Hit destiny and quantic hard if you must, but the last thing this scene is less sponsors
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#473
On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote:
Destiny?

Racial slurs?

Woah, I never expected this.


Yeah this really isn't anything special ;p

If he personally came up to you and called you a gook then I can understand how that is offensive because he would know if you were Asian or not. But its over the internet, you are just some random faceless kid and he choose such an insult because of this.

You have to think why a word is being said. Is it being said because it simply releases frustration? i.e calling someone a cocksucker doesn't actually imply that they suck a lot of penis. Its just a way to vent.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#474
On May 02 2012 00:17 canSore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:16 WardenSC wrote:
I was playing vs QuanticDestiny a few hours ago where he was calling me a "gook" and a bunch of offensive words. Now I understand that one may get frustrated if he/she loses in a game (I've been there myself). I also understand that it is his stream and he may say that he can do whatever the hell he wants in his stream. However, he stands now as a "community figure" who has the reach to influence thousands of viewers daily and can skew the public's view of sc2 community in an extremely negative direction.

Isn't it reasonable to expect a level of professionalism from a player that plays on a professional team? I just don't think spurting out racial slurs left and right in front of a large audience is why Quantic sponsors Destiny to market their team.

As a note, I don't think QuanticDestiny is a true racist. However, I do believe that ignorance towards his excessive use of racial slurs would eventually lead to tolerance within the community and that would be a very dangerous outcome.






[image loading]



WardenSC

I agree with you. I'm offended by his language as well. Destiny is popular and featured on this website. I've seen people get in trouble for a lot worse. It's unacceptable behavior, and it's too bad TL is ignoring this issue.


I don't believe TL are ignoring the issue, this thread has only been up for 2 hours or so.
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BestFriends
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:19:36
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#475
I don't really care for orb or destiny but does anyone else find it funny that this is np but orb got shit flamed?
It's not about winning but the prevention of defeat.
noidontthinkso
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece94 Posts
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#476
nothing new OP
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#477
On May 02 2012 00:16 Dexington wrote:
Holy shit, just leading the first page this thread disgusts me. People get Orb fired from his job with a witch hunt that lasts for a whole month for saying the n word. Destiny says something similar and people are telling the guy he said it to, to grow some balls.

Destiny fanboys are fucking hilarious. Can't wait for this scum to disappear from our scene.


Oh it's "our" scene? What do you contribute to it exactly? I know that Destiny has contributed a lot more than you did. Funny to hear you calling him scum yet you're offended by what he says? Cool logic bro.

That being said, I'm not a fan of his racial slurs and I'd rather if he stopped using them but who the hell am I to tell him wtf he should or shouldn't do? I don't have to watch him if I don't want to.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wyk
Profile Joined March 2011
314 Posts
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#478
On May 01 2012 23:50 Bellazuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:49 lolspoon wrote:
Destiny must laugh really a lot right now, and he is not the only one


I agree, all those kids crying makes the thread stupid.

Yeah, and this has nothing to do with his mother taking it up the ass as we speak.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:21:57
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#479
On May 02 2012 00:14 partisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:14 ETisME wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:11 Karak wrote:
The stark contrast between this thread and the Orb thread is rather amazing. Both are "community figures" who profit off of pushing their personality. In fact, a majority of Destiny's success is based off of his personality, not his results in tournament play.

Destiny is open about his choice of words and defend against it.
Orb lied several times about the usage of racial comments.

There is a huge difference :S


Only if you think lying is the issue

one is acknowledging the amount of potential hate it might cause but defend the use of these words with legit reasons and sources to back it up.
Destiny spent a long time discussing it with some high up members of the team right when he joined the team. I watched it live, he has probably spent a lot more time dealing with these issues than you have ever think about it.
This shows a part of his opinion on his usage of words and how he isn't hiding it. If he has a legit reason and faith and argument, why can't he stand up for himself? The team is aware of these types of comments.


another is using it without thinking it through and tried to lie himself out of the way.
[I can't be bothered to link to all the screen cap of the racial comments and his lies]

So yea, it is a big issue here and that is why there is a big contrast.
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Meshu
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia17 Posts
May 01 2012 15:19 GMT
#480
On May 02 2012 00:10 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:58 Meshu wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:52 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:48 partisan wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:46 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:46 partisan wrote:
This thread has basically just turned into people being apologists for racial slurs because they like Destiny, and the rest of us that think that's insane.

This community will never grow if we don't call this kind of garbage out.


So you saying Destiny are killing Esports!!?


Nope. I'm saying racial/ethnic/homophobic slurs will cause issues with the growth of the community, regardless of who says them.


What about a useless post meant to defame a public figure while hidding its true purpose under a political correct theme. I think that would be a greater threat to the community?

So if you guys keep up with this we might get to a point where people are so affraid of saying anything becuase of the horde of angry jealous dramaqueens who would rather want to create drama instead of watching starcraft games.


You mean to say people might be held accountable for what they say like other public figures?


Ahh so if you are a public figure you not alowed to be human and do mistakes. Gotcha.

Seriously im so sick of this community. You are graving for drama 24/7 and if there isnt some kind of drama hell we will just create something.


Uhhh, noone said he wasn't allowed to 'be human and do mistakes'. It's not like this is a one-off, dude. Nothing about what I said insinuated he wasn't allowed that.

I'm just curious as to why you think it should be promoted and why he shouldn't be held accountable for what he says?
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