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Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
May 01 2012 15:26 GMT
#521
On May 02 2012 00:25 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:24 noidontthinkso wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:24 Firesilver wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:23 noidontthinkso wrote:
report him to his sponsor razer


support-us@razersupport.com


No. Do not do this. It hurts the scene rather than makes the situation better. Take your emails to Quantic instead.


lol how does it hurt the scene if idiots dont get sponsor anymore?

How about they stop sponsoring new people since they view the risks of negative backlash being to high for it to be worth it?


Yes, so let's hide every bad quality of the community from them. That couldn't possibly backfire.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:27:51
May 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#522
http://deadspin.com/5886322/espn-fires-chink-in-the-armor-scribe

A much less "severe" situation in the "real world", imo. That's what needs to happen.
#1 Grubby Fan.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
May 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#523
On May 02 2012 00:23 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:16 nullmind wrote:
If you really feel there should be something done about this and you know QxG wont do anything, let the sponsor know how you feel. I noticed they are getting sponsored by Razer. Here is their email support-us@razersupport.com.


No dammit, the same issue was brought up before. At least give QxG a chance to respond before e-mailing sponsors, which are so pivotal in the growth of the scene at this point.

There's the old saying that gets tossed around 'hurting esports', but directly e-mailing sponsors as a knee jerk reaction to something you don't like is actually potentially so harmful to the scene. Please, at least wait.


You know what? If we're going to be a community that harbors racism and homophobia, then we don't deserve sponsors. All the figure heads freaked out when we emailed EG's sponsors because they saw their incomes evaporating. But if they're going to tolerate that stuff, then their incomes should evaporate.

If QxG is going to continue to let Destiny behave that way, then a financial incentive is the only thing that's going to get them to control him.



Harboring racists and homophobic people? Dude do you live under a rock? Are you fucking 12? It blows my mind that people like you exist still. Bet you voted for Obama too right?

User was temp banned for this post.
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:28:13
May 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#524
On May 02 2012 00:26 DeepElemBlues wrote:
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On May 02 2012 00:21 Karak wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:19 lorkac wrote:
Is he intentionally racist? Probably not.

Is he institutionally racist? Yes.

The difference? He says racist things because he lives in a culture that is okay with saying those things aloud--it isn't with malicious intent that he says those things.

Is it still a problem? Yes.

Is the problem with Destiny? No--the problem is with the community he is in.

What community is that? American gamers.

How do you fix American gamers? Fix america.

That sounds stupid. Because it is.


This is actually a rather cogent post. Well said.


actually it's totally off-base, speech like this is not accepted in american society. where it is accepted is the gamer community, not just the american gamer community but the global community.


That's precisely what I drew out of the post, actually. I just assumed he was being specific to America because that is the context here, an American player.

Trust me, I am the last last last last last person to ever be PC sensitive. I think our culture is WAY overly PC sensitive. However, I do think there are words and terms that CLEARLY cross the line, such as extreme racial slurs. It's not a difficult line to draw.
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
May 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#525
Destiny's behavior is by no means professional by my standards, but I'm not the one paying him. If Quantic is fine with his behavior, then that's their prerogative. I'm not in a position to critique Quantic on what they should or shouldn't do. Also, Orb wasn't dismissed from EG for solely racist remarks. He also lied to the management about the situation, explicitly stating multiple times that it wasn't him who made the racist comments and verbally abusing everyone who argued otherwise.

However, as a TL community member with some say on matters (regardless of how small that voice may be), I feel that Destiny shouldn't be a featured streamer. His behavior is not reflective of the values I would like to see on this site.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#526
Seriously guys, all-ins are part of the game, so if you're like "you all-in'd him, so you deserve to be trashtalked", then just quit SC2 is not for you.
-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:28:15
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#527
@OP: I bet Destiny is glad you posted this, because you're giving him more viewers right now.
If famous actor insults you on the street you're going to report it to the newspaper? Hilarious ^^
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#528
Imah hit up the sponsors too, since QxG or TL, will just let this and his attitude slide.
Its true though, you punish orb, but Destiny gets away with it?
Follow me @H2O_teaCher ..... www.pmsclan.com
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#529
On May 02 2012 00:17 NexUmbra wrote:
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On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote:
Destiny?

Racial slurs?

Woah, I never expected this.


Yeah this really isn't anything special ;p

If he personally came up to you and called you a gook then I can understand how that is offensive because he would know if you were Asian or not. But its over the internet, you are just some random faceless kid and he choose such an insult because of this.

You have to think why a word is being said. Is it being said because it simply releases frustration? i.e calling someone a cocksucker doesn't actually imply that they suck a lot of penis. Its just a way to vent.

Destiny knew he was Asian, by his ID HANDAEDGUK.

It was an open racist attack. It happens all the time in the world. but coming from a professional SC2 player. it is kind of
shocking.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#530
You guys really want to stop being insulted by this racist? Stop paying attention to him.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#531
You aren't actually hurt from destiny's comments, you're just crying because you want attention. Any starcraft 2 player who is emotionally damaged by destiny insulting them on the internet needs to get over themselves. And you did 1 base terran all-in against him....if I ran teamliquid, that would be a bannable offense.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#532
Oh come on you faggot gook, its just words.

(BTW if I get banned from this, Destiny should get unfeatured.)

User was temp banned for this post.
I'm very good at making carriers.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
May 01 2012 15:28 GMT
#533
On May 02 2012 00:28 -Kira wrote:
@OP: I bet Destiny is glad you posted this, because you're giving him more viewers right now.
If famous actor insults you on the street you're going to report it to the newspaper? Hilarious ^^

i doubt Destiny will get get more viewers.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#534
I think that anyone that picks up Destiny and puts him on their team, knows what they are getting, and does it anyway because of his popularity.
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#535
On May 02 2012 00:25 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:24 noidontthinkso wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:24 Firesilver wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:23 noidontthinkso wrote:
report him to his sponsor razer


support-us@razersupport.com


No. Do not do this. It hurts the scene rather than makes the situation better. Take your emails to Quantic instead.


lol how does it hurt the scene if idiots dont get sponsor anymore?

How about they stop sponsoring new people since they view the risks of negative backlash being to high for it to be worth it?


You're assuming the backlash can be avoided in the future. How long until destiny says something like this in a situation where sc2 has more visibility?
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1773 Posts
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#536
On May 02 2012 00:27 Derrida wrote:
http://deadspin.com/5886322/espn-fires-chink-in-the-armor-scribe

A much less "severe" situation in the "real world", imo. That's what needs to happen.

Actual players like Kobe Bryant have used terms also seen in the OP to very little repercussion.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#537
On May 02 2012 00:26 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:24 noidontthinkso wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:24 Firesilver wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:23 noidontthinkso wrote:
report him to his sponsor razer


support-us@razersupport.com


No. Do not do this. It hurts the scene rather than makes the situation better. Take your emails to Quantic instead.


lol how does it hurt the scene if idiots dont get sponsor anymore?

Yeah, because we should block a top figure like naniwa from being sponsored.


well he did threaten to kill someone (Hellspawn) in his sleep. So where do we rate death threats on our level of outrage meter? Is it at the "Top upvoted on r/starcraft' or the nuclear 'email sponsors, spam twitter' level?
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#538
On May 02 2012 00:26 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:24 noidontthinkso wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:24 Firesilver wrote:
On May 02 2012 00:23 noidontthinkso wrote:
report him to his sponsor razer


support-us@razersupport.com


No. Do not do this. It hurts the scene rather than makes the situation better. Take your emails to Quantic instead.


lol how does it hurt the scene if idiots dont get sponsor anymore?


"if idiots dont get sponsor anymore" I think what you dont understand is that the sponsors sponsor the TEAM, not the individual player.


Teams are responsible for their players behavior in the public eye no? Quantic is complicit in all of Destiny's behavior.
#2throwed
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:30:23
May 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#539
On May 02 2012 00:28 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 00:17 NexUmbra wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote:
Destiny?

Racial slurs?

Woah, I never expected this.


Yeah this really isn't anything special ;p

If he personally came up to you and called you a gook then I can understand how that is offensive because he would know if you were Asian or not. But its over the internet, you are just some random faceless kid and he choose such an insult because of this.

You have to think why a word is being said. Is it being said because it simply releases frustration? i.e calling someone a cocksucker doesn't actually imply that they suck a lot of penis. Its just a way to vent.

Destiny knew he was Asian, by his ID HANDAEDGUK.

It was an open racist attack. It happens all the time in the world. but coming from a professional SC2 player. it is kind of
shocking.


Yes. In any competitive sport in the US, this would be a massive PR disaster for any personality or player. If it weresomeone who derived a majority of his success from his personality and not his playing, it could very well be career ending. There is a reason for this. Whether you want to accept that reality or simply deal with the perception is your choice, but it is not something the gaming community can ignore if it wants to go mainstream.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
May 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#540
hello people. do you guys understand the meaning of professionalism and responsibility? Destiny is not like you. he is a professional SC2 player. He is held to a different standard to us ordinary people. That why this racist slur was unnacceptable.
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