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k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:16 GMT
#161
its funny that rules only apply for player switching (which is a good thing since the main goal of the game would be lost which is play a god damn starcraft match instead of forfeiting it) and flaming with racial speech koreans who dont have the appropiate tools to defend theirselfes , which are very honest admitting without even trying to negate the truth is bannable.
Ebenol
Profile Joined May 2003
Sweden1983 Posts
November 06 2005 03:17 GMT
#162
On November 06 2005 12:04 SwedishHero wrote:
How come everybode thinks that jang got replaced by another player is worse then the obvious discusting trashtalk by tot of oG´s koreans. I think that deserves more of a ban than the player replacements
Well, there is this in the ESL rules:

# Players are expected to be courteous and respectful of their fellow gamers and admins. Extreme cases of bad manner will be punished with all possible severity.
SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
November 06 2005 03:19 GMT
#163
most likely penalty points since players like mtw-winner got those allot last season for being bm
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2005 03:20 GMT
#164
Srry but isnt this paradox ? If the koreans dont understand english well they arent offended by the flames , are they ? So.. T_T

Still it wasnt a good thing by Strafe to flame.. but ok.. flaming is one thing .. acc sharing in a league with money involved is another ..

i dont see any other way.. but ok.. we will see what will happen..
hatred outlives the hateful
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:24:18
November 06 2005 03:22 GMT
#165
a good solution , let jang play who he was supposed to play , everyone who trashtalked apologize everything is solved. Something i have always respected about asians in general (specially in japan and korea) are the honor and respect they have between them when they compete. Also take into account that rules from an official tourney should be reachable to all the players involved in the tournament. Koreans speak koreans and they arent supposed to know english. Rules apply to everybody involved in an event , and shall they be reachable to all of them
Flirtwithme
Profile Joined August 2003
Germany61 Posts
November 06 2005 03:23 GMT
#166
flames ... where are the screenshots about it? can someone host them?


cya
Sea.Man
Profile Joined October 2005
Korea (South)1 Post
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:31:28
November 06 2005 03:23 GMT
#167
On November 06 2005 12:04 SwedishHero wrote:
How come everybode thinks that jang got replaced by another player is worse then the obvious discusting trashtalk by tot of oG´s koreans. I think that deserves more of a ban than the player replacements


http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot4.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot3.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot2.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot1.jpg
even if mondragon don't say "gg" when end a game
and then i say to him "y not say gg?". he answer me that i am badmanner man kkk
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2005 03:23 GMT
#168
On November 06 2005 12:22 k3fka wrote:
a good solution , let jang play who he was supposed to play , everyone who trashtalked apologize everything is solved. Something i have always respected about asians in general (specially in japan and korea) are the honor and respect they have between them when they compete.


very good solution! Everyone has one bonus acc sharing option then, too , cause u dont get punished for it. Great idea..
hatred outlives the hateful
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
November 06 2005 03:24 GMT
#169
Why should jang play? He apparently "couldn't" play at the designated time, the correct thing to do was use a wildcard. I don't see why they should be rewarded with a rescheduled game considering what they actually did
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
FlowerGirl
Profile Joined November 2005
United States19 Posts
November 06 2005 03:24 GMT
#170
I suggest making another thread to discuss the account sharing issue.

This thread is about SCCL playday 3 results and let's get back on topic :

TmG vs eSa

Strelok[TmG] - eSa.Breakdown 2:0
ret[TmG] - eSa.Schnibl0r 2:0
ex[TmG] - eSa.Fisheye 1:2
Gurram[TmG] - eSa.Gentleman 1:2

ret[TmG]/Strelok[TmG] - eSa.Breakdown/eSa.Fisheye 1:2

TmG - eSa 2:3
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
November 06 2005 03:26 GMT
#171
ToT) was bm to koreans, I understand they being bm because as many others they are pissed at oG) for recruiting basically a whole lineup before a league, some are pissed at iG. for having koreans too, but that's appart, anyways cheating is cheating, and replacing a player by another is cheating, even more if he's not even in the lineup, some people are suggesting it shouldnt matter? Kaolla please think a little bit, u cant bring anyone, for good or bad he is, give him your pass and have him play in yourstead, even worse, they didnt even ask for permission, they just did it, hoping no one would notice, Midian noticed, and as it is natural, he reported it, and btw matchup means a lot kaolla, skill isnt regular in all cases for every matchup, for exmaple I cant zvz for shit, and my other matchups are ok, so if someone who is playing off race and seems suspicious, I think its very fair, to report it, then they admit it, and apparently oG) doesnt have any knowledge or anything about their koreans, since they didnt even know what they were doing... apparently oG)SeaMan is the one who directs oG)'s clanwars so not even administration is european anymore, that's cute, I dont know what punishment should be for oG), or ToT) for its bm, even tho that's not in the rules, but if nothing happens after this, I guess it will just make more teams want to do things like this

on other results:
iG is currently beating iD. 4-0

iG.Drunkentiger 2-0 iD.SarenS
iG.Arcneon 2-0 iD.Squall
iG.KaaZ 2-0 iD.Cocoa-
iG.Gorky 2-1 iD.Artosis

iG.KaaZ + iG.Naranjito 0-0 iD.Cocoa- + iD.Insane

...I happened to read "predictions" of this week, and I read someone say "if iG. doesnt bring koreans iD. will win" or something, so we decided for this only time, not to use koreans
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
FlowerGirl
Profile Joined November 2005
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:26:57
November 06 2005 03:26 GMT
#172
On November 06 2005 12:23 Sea.Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:04 SwedishHero wrote:
How come everybode thinks that jang got replaced by another player is worse then the obvious discusting trashtalk by tot of oG´s koreans. I think that deserves more of a ban than the player replacements


http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot4.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot3.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot2.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot1.jpg


I just have to say something after seeing this, my god.

I am absolutely disgusted by these screenshots.


Fuck you strafe, and Grow some fucking manner Mondragon.


In my world, racism is a worse crime than someone playing under someone's account in a fuckign video game.

Ban these fucking Nazi's.
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:26 GMT
#173
On November 06 2005 12:20 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Srry but isnt this paradox ? If the koreans dont understand english well they arent offended by the flames , are they ? So.. T_T

Still it wasnt a good thing by Strafe to flame.. but ok.. flaming is one thing .. acc sharing in a league with money involved is another ..

i dont see any other way.. but ok.. we will see what will happen..


you are right. they are different things. but not in the way you mean they are
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
StarOfDust
Profile Joined September 2005
Sweden163 Posts
November 06 2005 03:28 GMT
#174
I'll just continue to love Midian and Co but despise Strafe I guess. Really, that's just stupid. (sry for ot)
Me love u long time, keke!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:33:32
November 06 2005 03:29 GMT
#175
Yeah.. I don't see any point at all to all those flames
Ok, you don't agree with them playing - fine. It's not their fault, show some respect -_-

On November 06 2005 12:22 k3fka wrote:
a good solution , let jang play who he was supposed to play , everyone who trashtalked apologize everything is solved. Something i have always respected about asians in general (specially in japan and korea) are the honor and respect they have between them when they compete. Also take into account that rules from an official tourney should be reachable to all the players involved in the tournament. Koreans speak koreans and they arent supposed to know english. Rules apply to everybody involved in an event , and shall they be reachable to all of them


I agree completely with what you said about him playing who he is supposed to play.
This unfriendly atmosphere is really depressing :[

On November 06 2005 12:26 FlowerGirl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:23 Sea.Man wrote:
On November 06 2005 12:04 SwedishHero wrote:
How come everybode thinks that jang got replaced by another player is worse then the obvious discusting trashtalk by tot of oG´s koreans. I think that deserves more of a ban than the player replacements


http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot4.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot3.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot2.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot1.jpg


I just have to say something after seeing this, my god.

I am absolutely disgusted by these screenshots.


Fuck you strafe, and Grow some fucking manner Mondragon.


In my world, racism is a worse crime than someone playing under someone's account in a fuckign video game.

Ban these fucking Nazi's.


Meh, the thing is; they don't mean a single word they say -.- It's just a windup..

I don't think it's nice, I would never do it personally, but I don't think they are serious +_+

On November 06 2005 12:24 iD.MidiaN wrote:
Why should jang play? He apparently "couldn't" play at the designated time, the correct thing to do was use a wildcard. I don't see why they should be rewarded with a rescheduled game considering what they actually did


Well, it was obviously a misunderstanding I think... Well, I hope -.-a
Gah, I hate these things.
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NewYorkHardCore
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden126 Posts
November 06 2005 03:30 GMT
#176
MaGic Phil, shut your fucking face. You sound like a retarded monkey. Stop talking shit and realize the fact that its NOT about what fucking nationality you are, but your skill. k?
Winners never quit and quitters never win
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:31 GMT
#177
On November 06 2005 12:26 SwedishHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:20 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Srry but isnt this paradox ? If the koreans dont understand english well they arent offended by the flames , are they ? So.. T_T

Still it wasnt a good thing by Strafe to flame.. but ok.. flaming is one thing .. acc sharing in a league with money involved is another ..

i dont see any other way.. but ok.. we will see what will happen..


you are right. they are different things. but not in the way you mean they are


lol magik , didnt read that quote , are you fucking stupid? so according to you , trashtalking someone in a language they dont understand isnt that bad because they cant understand it? , i think racism is far worse than doing something against the rules (which is the consecuence of not knowing the rules since they dont fucking know english).
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:31 GMT
#178
On November 06 2005 12:26 FlowerGirl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:23 Sea.Man wrote:
On November 06 2005 12:04 SwedishHero wrote:
How come everybode thinks that jang got replaced by another player is worse then the obvious discusting trashtalk by tot of oG´s koreans. I think that deserves more of a ban than the player replacements


http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot4.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot3.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot2.jpg
http://www.ogaming.org/ogvstot/tot1.jpg


I just have to say something after seeing this, my god.

I am absolutely disgusted by these screenshots.


Fuck you strafe, and Grow some fucking manner Mondragon.


In my world, racism is a worse crime than someone playing under someone's account in a fuckign video game.

Ban these fucking Nazi's.


Well we did only see what he posted, but even though I belive freezers and especially rets word for it. that they started all the shit, and yes i think its worse then changing accounts. but still it was against the rules. But i dont think they should be banned anyways. Give both tot and og a warning and give the win to tot..even though I lately havent really grown fond of tot
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:33:28
November 06 2005 03:32 GMT
#179
Well technicaly strafe isn't in their sccl team so he isn't in their squad Still things like those should not be said tho.
Chereoke
Profile Joined August 2005
Zimbabwe201 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 03:36:41
November 06 2005 03:32 GMT
#180
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