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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2005 03:33 GMT
#181
Flaming is ONE thing! Account sharing ANOTHER!

Why dont some people get this into their brain ?
And it doesnt make any difference why/how/who shared his acc to whom. Its always the same : a bad manner action which gets punished the way the rules are saying it : ban.

I dont know what the hell u are even talking about ? And its not about easier game for ToT) or doesnt matter at all, score didnt change cause of this .. ect.. ITS ALL ABOUT THIS ACTION..


hatred outlives the hateful
NewYorkHardCore
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden126 Posts
November 06 2005 03:33 GMT
#182
Wow thats pretty damn pathethic by Strafe. Serioulsy people HOW FUCKING OLD ARE YOU!? Strafe don't be a fucking ass and smacktalk asian people like that. Whats wrong with you?
Winners never quit and quitters never win
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:33 GMT
#183
On November 06 2005 12:31 k3fka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:26 SwedishHero wrote:
On November 06 2005 12:20 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Srry but isnt this paradox ? If the koreans dont understand english well they arent offended by the flames , are they ? So.. T_T

Still it wasnt a good thing by Strafe to flame.. but ok.. flaming is one thing .. acc sharing in a league with money involved is another ..

i dont see any other way.. but ok.. we will see what will happen..


you are right. they are different things. but not in the way you mean they are


lol magik , didnt read that quote , are you fucking stupid? so according to you , trashtalking someone in a language they dont understand isnt that bad because they cant understand it? , i think racism is far worse than doing something against the rules (which is the consecuence of not knowing the rules since they dont fucking know english).

i dont know if you mean iam stupid. i absolutely agree with you. I mean the part about flame/accoutn sharing with the "different things"
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
8880
Profile Joined September 2005
131 Posts
November 06 2005 03:34 GMT
#184
amdgunnar1002 0 : 2 airwork
x6AMD.ALFA 1 : 2 hbq
SuKeR 2 : 0 Draco
x6AMD.ZelotITO 1 : 2 Blackman

SuKeR, x6AMD.ALFA 0 : 2 Blackman, Raven


x6AMD.bw 1 : 4 mYm
NewYorkHardCore
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden126 Posts
November 06 2005 03:35 GMT
#185
Magic Phil you little worm, you are like that fucking dude in Lord of The rings, who is um the counselor of the Rohan king and poisons his thoughts. I see your name like in every third post and you just spread poison. Bounce
Winners never quit and quitters never win
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:35 GMT
#186
meh
giving midian the win because of the account sharing is right but banning them for the entire league sounds wrong
in that case tot should also be banned from the entire league due to the severe bad manner and racism displayed

not that I personally care, getting offended is just as much your own fault as whoever instigates you, but if you're gonna follow the rules you gotta be consistent, and considering "be manner" is a rule and some members of tot were extremely unmanner, that's not good!

swapping jang for an inferior player and then giving him a loss by default sounds like a good way to solve that problem.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
November 06 2005 03:35 GMT
#187
amdgunnari1002 is x6AMD.SigurD
It takes a fool to remain sane.
SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
November 06 2005 03:36 GMT
#188
Being bad mannered and rascist only gives u penalty points as far as I know.
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:37 GMT
#189
phil, you are not smart . its not all black and white. And I as FA think it was just a misunderstanding, If the get banned I hope tot gets banned just as much
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:37 GMT
#190
sorry swedish , i was referring to magik phil. whatever , this shit is getting repetitive , every time tot looses , a flamefest starts. I think if they wanna compete with koreans, they should start by learning how to act like proffesionals.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:37 GMT
#191

"# Players are expected to be courteous and respectful of their fellow gamers and admins. Extreme cases of bad manner will be punished with all possible severity."


that means banning the entire team is "legally" an option for them.
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paaltje
Profile Joined October 2004
Netherlands359 Posts
November 06 2005 03:38 GMT
#192
REP PACKS PLZ !!

SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
November 06 2005 03:38 GMT
#193
As I said before this kind of misunderstanding has happend before and the esl banned the teams non the less.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 06 2005 03:41 GMT
#194
On November 06 2005 12:35 Liquid`Drone wrote:
meh
giving midian the win because of the account sharing is right but banning them for the entire league sounds wrong
in that case tot should also be banned from the entire league due to the severe bad manner and racism displayed

not that I personally care, getting offended is just as much your own fault as whoever instigates you, but if you're gonna follow the rules you gotta be consistent, and considering "be manner" is a rule and some members of tot were extremely unmanner, that's not good!

swapping jang for an inferior player and then giving him a loss by default sounds like a good way to solve that problem.

Hm, how can you say that it's the person getting bm:ed's fault? I mean, ok, you can choose not to get offended but you shouldn't have to do this..

Anyhow, I agree with what ret said.. it's pretty embarassing to see people act like that (especially when it's to chinese/koreans since those communities are so separated from ours.. I'd prefer to not be seen as 'one of those racist foreigners..').

Sure, there's plenty of koreans who are INSANELY bad manner to americans (probably foreigners in general), but that's no excuse (in case anyone was considering using it)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2005 03:42 GMT
#195
okey. lets change the rules.. why not.. rules are there to be broken..


@ NewYorkHardCore : Get a brain ? If the rules say account sharing ~> ban , and many teams got banned for acc sharing, before why should the same not happen to oG) ? And why are there even people defending oG) for this action ? It was a fault and the rules say what has to be done..
some ToT's flaming is pretty bad manner, too . But i wouldnt ban someone for saying '' stupid kors'' .. and i remember oG ( Sea's ) saying : ToT gag clan Tot Chobo clan.. thats not nice, too.. and their way of saying '' fuck you'' in english.. so what ever..

i wont post anymore in this cause 99% here cant face the truth : objectivity : oG) has to be banned cause of rules..
hatred outlives the hateful
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:42 GMT
#196
On November 06 2005 12:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +

"# Players are expected to be courteous and respectful of their fellow gamers and admins. Extreme cases of bad manner will be punished with all possible severity."


that means banning the entire team is "legally" an option for them.


yup as it should be, and Phil aint really objective..he talks about rules, this is this and that is that without even looking up the rules(for both sides), and even though maybe they didnt mean all they said, he just wants to make it as "flame" in same way when someone at school gest bullied. and its "nothing"..yeye...
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:43 GMT
#197
if someone is writing shit with the intention of pissing you off, if you get pissed off it's your own damn fault because the other person is only writing what he's writing because it pisses you off.
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SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
November 06 2005 03:43 GMT
#198
Out of my experience from the wc3l and other esl league like the german and bulgarian wc3 leagues they only give penalty points for these kind of things.
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:43 GMT
#199
On November 06 2005 12:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +

"# Players are expected to be courteous and respectful of their fellow gamers and admins. Extreme cases of bad manner will be punished with all possible severity."


that means banning the entire team is "legally" an option for them.


drone , one thing you arent talking into account is that og has a korean team manager , and the rules are in a language he apparently doesnt understand in which case he can declare himself ignorant of the rules since the organization of the event didnt wrote the rules in every language.

See all the major webpages like pgtour , wgtour or neogamei at its time, they all have the rules very clearly written in all languages so theres no missunderstanding like in this case.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 06 2005 03:45 GMT
#200
On November 06 2005 12:42 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
okey. lets change the rules.. why not.. rules are there to be broken..


@ NewYorkHardCore : Get a brain ? If the rules say account sharing ~> ban , and many teams got banned for acc sharing, before why should the same not happen to oG) ? And why are there even people defending oG) for this action ? It was a fault and the rules say what has to be done..
some ToT's flaming is pretty bad manner, too . But i wouldnt ban someone for saying '' stupid kors'' .. and i remember oG ( Sea's ) saying : ToT gag clan Tot Chobo clan.. thats not nice, too.. and their way of saying '' fuck you'' in english.. so what ever..

i wont post anymore in this cause 99% here cant face the truth : objectivity : oG) has to be banned cause of rules..

Uh, they basically said that ToT is a joke of a clan in response to the BM -.- From what I saw personally, they didn't say anything that bad.

I noticed they called ToT 'keyboard warriors' I think ;O

Compare that to racist flames (even as a joke) and it's not really something that stands out.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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