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sMaCkEr
Profile Joined October 2005
Peru295 Posts
November 06 2005 03:45 GMT
#201
ToT)Strafe( is a Giraffe child bm next time plz a bot in channel to ban people who dont play and say shits like strafe
West op jOinClan
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 06 2005 03:47 GMT
#202
On November 06 2005 12:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:
if someone is writing shit with the intention of pissing you off, if you get pissed off it's your own damn fault because the other person is only writing what he's writing because it pisses you off.

Considering how little english they speak, do they even know they are doing it just as a windup or not -_~?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SwedishHero
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden869 Posts
November 06 2005 03:47 GMT
#203
Funny seeing phil talking about objectivity ...oh dear god
Italiano??...no...no italiano?
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:47 GMT
#204
On November 06 2005 12:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:42 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
okey. lets change the rules.. why not.. rules are there to be broken..


@ NewYorkHardCore : Get a brain ? If the rules say account sharing ~> ban , and many teams got banned for acc sharing, before why should the same not happen to oG) ? And why are there even people defending oG) for this action ? It was a fault and the rules say what has to be done..
some ToT's flaming is pretty bad manner, too . But i wouldnt ban someone for saying '' stupid kors'' .. and i remember oG ( Sea's ) saying : ToT gag clan Tot Chobo clan.. thats not nice, too.. and their way of saying '' fuck you'' in english.. so what ever..

i wont post anymore in this cause 99% here cant face the truth : objectivity : oG) has to be banned cause of rules..

Uh, they basically said that ToT is a joke of a clan in response to the BM -.- From what I saw personally, they didn't say anything that bad.

.



They werent far from the truth. Everytime tot looses a clanwar , there are problems of all type + they recruit every maphacker they find so i wouldnt be surprised if anyone called tot a joke clan.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:47 GMT
#205
well I was actually saying that banning the entire TOT team is legally an option for them.
regarding the account sharing, I think the perfect solution is what has been done so far ; giving midian the win and then not doing anything more about it.

(note that I am not saying tot should get banned, but I think their actions were just as bad as the actions made by oG, and I'm thus saying if oG) should get banned, so should tot. I think neither should and that nothing should be done. )
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SkyInTheSea
Profile Joined October 2005
4 Posts
November 06 2005 03:48 GMT
#206
let's make it short:

ToT: I've lost all my respect for this clan because of strafe and mondragon for being racism. They were extremely bad mannered. I can't stand you people flaming Asians and calling them rice eaters. Strafe you're 100 times worse than mondi. FUCK YOU , I can't believe a known gamer like you would've done it. You're worse than a 5 years old kid.

oG: I really feel sorry for the koreans but oG)Freezer , it's your fault. You're the one bringing koreans for your 80% lineup and it could be a reason why ToT was bm in the beginning(still unacceptable tho). You told others they were interested with the europe community with only 1 game played on their accounts? That's bullshit.
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:48 GMT
#207
drone , i dont wanna sound repetitive , but what do you think about the post about rules i wrote?
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
November 06 2005 03:48 GMT
#208
Well if compared other BW league in WGTCL if caught doubleteaming they reverse all the games the player has played in that season and ban him from WGTCL for few weeks.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
November 06 2005 03:49 GMT
#209
On November 06 2005 12:48 iNsaNe- wrote:
Well if compared other BW league in WGTCL if caught doubleteaming they reverse all the games the player has played in that season and ban him from WGTCL for few weeks.


but WGTCL has the rules in korean , SCCL doesnt , so they dont have to know the rules since their arent clearly expressed to everyone participating in the event.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:51 GMT
#210
On November 06 2005 12:47 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:
if someone is writing shit with the intention of pissing you off, if you get pissed off it's your own damn fault because the other person is only writing what he's writing because it pisses you off.

Considering how little english they speak, do they even know they are doing it just as a windup or not -_~?


I don't know and I don't care, getting pissed off or offended because someone you've never met and have no relation to and whose opinion should mean jack fucking shit to you is "being mean" towards you over the internet for no reason whatsoever is just.. sad? =[
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
November 06 2005 03:53 GMT
#211
On November 06 2005 12:49 k3fka wrote:
but WGTCL has the rules in korean


No they don't? And anyway if they would have still in SCCL you should off course be aware of the rules, if you break the law you can't say 'oops I didn't know'
It takes a fool to remain sane.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1232 Posts
November 06 2005 03:53 GMT
#212
u seriously can believe that k3fka ? that makes 0 sense plz think a bit, where in heck would doing that be legal... that's just stupid comment, besides EVEN IF they tought it was legal, for some odd reason, it is oG)'s managment problem to inform them koreans about the rules, wich are pretty damn obvious, I didnt read the rules and I know if someone doesnt come I cant give my acct for someone else to play on it, dont be stupid
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2005 03:54 GMT
#213
On November 06 2005 12:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
well I was actually saying that banning the entire TOT team is legally an option for them.
regarding the account sharing, I think the perfect solution is what has been done so far ; giving midian the win and then not doing anything more about it.

(note that I am not saying tot should get banned, but I think their actions were just as bad as the actions made by oG, and I'm thus saying if oG) should get banned, so should tot. I think neither should and that nothing should be done. )



But if u dont punish oG) for acc sharing everyone can do it and say '' we CANT get a penalty, oG) didnt get one, too ''.. that would be the badest thing that could happen , imho. Its better to state an example and let the people know : We are a serious league! Account sharing and every other illegal things, cheats, hacks, abuses will most probably lead to a ban or at least a huge punishment. ANd know flame me again, for being SUBJECTIVE.. :/ ( the very last part is not to u Drone, but to all the other idiots who dont get what im saying.. and think im a oG) hater.. )
hatred outlives the hateful
Illuvatar
Profile Joined June 2005
254 Posts
November 06 2005 03:55 GMT
#214
On November 06 2005 12:48 SkyInTheSea wrote:
let's make it short:

ToT: I've lost all my respect for this clan because of strafe and mondragon for being racism. They were extremely bad mannered. I can't stand you people flaming Asians and calling them rice eaters. Strafe you're 100 times worse than mondi. FUCK YOU , I can't believe a known gamer like you would've done it. You're worse than a 5 years old kid.


Hm I think Mondi only wrote the korean rice eater with :D so he actually didn't meant it seriously and Strafe isn't really a racist he just writes all these things because he's so pissed that they only use koreans in their lineup (if you observed Strafe for some time you know he gets loud very easily) but of course it's not right.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:55 GMT
#215
On November 06 2005 12:48 k3fka wrote:
drone , i dont wanna sound repetitive , but what do you think about the post about rules i wrote?


my post was actually a reply to that post I just didn't realize there are 5 posts a minute in this thread so I didn't bother quoting. the language should not matter, swapping a better player with an inferior player, not really attempting to cover it up and then being given a loss in that game shouldn't require/warrant a ban of the entire team. enough was done already.

saying that the rules are only in english and the koreans are unable to understand them is just a solid arguement to make no koreans allowed, something I personally do not wish. a rule with max 2/5 games with koreans is a rule I would understand and quite possibly support though.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 04:04:59
November 06 2005 03:56 GMT
#216
On November 06 2005 12:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2005 12:47 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On November 06 2005 12:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:
if someone is writing shit with the intention of pissing you off, if you get pissed off it's your own damn fault because the other person is only writing what he's writing because it pisses you off.

Considering how little english they speak, do they even know they are doing it just as a windup or not -_~?


I don't know and I don't care, getting pissed off or offended because someone you've never met and have no relation to and whose opinion should mean jack fucking shit to you is "being mean" towards you over the internet for no reason whatsoever is just.. sad? =[

Depends I guess..

I remember some a conversation about this with a korean in a clan I used to be in, it was a long ass time ago though so I don't remember exactly what he said but..

We were talking about the difference in how bad manner is treated I think, and he said something about having gotten into fights because of online BM (actually don't quote me on this as it might just have been an example he used, it was a random conversation many years ago).

That is, finding the guy and beating him up (I guess).

I don't think koreans treat BM nearly as much as 'oh it's just online' since most are playing from PC Cafe's (or at least they used to) so the guy they are bming might be sitting across the room..

I have no clue if this is the general opinion or just his though.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28848 Posts
November 06 2005 03:58 GMT
#217
phil, they did get penalized. they got a loss for a game they won. why would people swap players if they know the consequence is a free win for the other team?
punishing the entire team (and in the most severe manner possible) for a misunderstanding by one player in the team and one player outside the team that had no consequences as far as the outcome of the game goes sounds way too harsh for me. possibly giving the entire clanwar win to tot would be less severe and more "just", but the dialogue from some tot members make them just as bad as far as breaking the rules goes, thus that would imo be wrong too.

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NewYorkHardCore
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden126 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-06 04:05:03
November 06 2005 04:00 GMT
#218
I definately agree SkyInTheSea. I have also lost my respect for ToT now. I always thought Mondragon was cool somehow, but you don't talk to people the way they did.

Im ashamed and feel bad for the koreans who get treated so shitty. Sure the accountsharing is wrong according to rules, but ToT:s bm is fucking worse imo. Sports is all about respect and equality for one another, and this shit can't be tolerated.
Is it just me who notice a pattern with german ppl being less manner against koreans?

And that little bumhole Magic Phil saying that the bm is not a big deal. Dude, its against the rules as much as accountsharing and should be dealt with severerly. Read up on the rules and stop riding ToT:s nuts.

I think ToT should be banned or get a warning to show them that they are not some gods who can do whatever they want.

Fuck you Strafe, you are a fuckin cowardly little worm. Im sure most people here think you are so fucking pathetic now. How can you look yourself in the mirror?
Winners never quit and quitters never win
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
November 06 2005 04:00 GMT
#219
It's really cool to see this league taking place, it's like the WC3L only with Brood War =] (quite literally too)
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
November 06 2005 04:00 GMT
#220
http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/scbw/sccl/season1/info/sccl_rules/

Can't find a rule about that playing without being registered/other peoples acc, where is it?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
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