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On April 27 2012 00:49 Xiron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:40 Caihead wrote:
I'm really tired of people throwing around the word Elitist on BW fans, just because someone is biased in some way doesn't make them an elitist, no one is assuming that because we like broodwar we can have special previleges bestowed on us by merit of us liking BW to the expense of SC2 fans. As if every BW fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the SC2 fan, when the reality of the situation is the exact opposite. If a poster is biased and makes idiotic remarks, just rebute him and be done with it, stop labeling communities.
Thank you. This part of your post makes you just as 'bad' as the people you are criticising. Let me translate: 'Every SC2 fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the BW fan.'
... It's a stab at people who label elitists, because that's what they are doing. It's hyperbole to stress a point and why it's idiotic. You just proved my point. I'm labeling my own community as elitist in a self referential manner to prove that point and not what you are doing. No one's labeling SC2 fans as elitist, it's almost exclusively at BW fans.
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On April 27 2012 00:49 Garmer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:40 Delta-V wrote:I hope that Flash dominates in SC2. On April 27 2012 00:38 wuhan_clan wrote:
It's pretty clear to me that the games hierarchy goes something like .... LoL < SC2 < SC:BW < Chess < Life. Except that life isn't a game. Edit: lol unless you are talking about The Game of LIFE, but I wouldn't say that's better than chess. and chess isn't better than BW, no game is better than BW imho
I love video games. I love SC2 and BW. But chess is the king of games
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We'll see what Flash thinks of SC2 when he sees how powerful all-ins are relative to BW. =) I HOPE he dominates, because to me, that would validate SC2 a bit in terms of volatility, but I'm skeptical that he will (unless it's just by pure micro, like MKP).
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On April 27 2012 00:53 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:49 Garmer wrote:On April 27 2012 00:40 Delta-V wrote:I hope that Flash dominates in SC2. On April 27 2012 00:38 wuhan_clan wrote:
It's pretty clear to me that the games hierarchy goes something like .... LoL < SC2 < SC:BW < Chess < Life. Except that life isn't a game. Edit: lol unless you are talking about The Game of LIFE, but I wouldn't say that's better than chess. and chess isn't better than BW, no game is better than BW imho I love video games. I love SC2 and BW. But chess is the king of games
BW is the real time version of Chess and more
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On April 27 2012 00:52 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:49 Xiron wrote:On April 27 2012 00:40 Caihead wrote:
I'm really tired of people throwing around the word Elitist on BW fans, just because someone is biased in some way doesn't make them an elitist, no one is assuming that because we like broodwar we can have special previleges bestowed on us by merit of us liking BW to the expense of SC2 fans. As if every BW fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the SC2 fan, when the reality of the situation is the exact opposite. If a poster is biased and makes idiotic remarks, just rebute him and be done with it, stop labeling communities.
Thank you. This part of your post makes you just as 'bad' as the people you are criticising. Let me translate: 'Every SC2 fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the BW fan.' ... It's a stab at people who label elitists, because that's what they are doing. It's hyperbole to stress a point and why it's idiotic. You just proved my point. I'm labeling my own community as elitist in a self referential manner to prove that point and not what you are doing. No one's labeling SC2 fans as elitist, it's almost exclusively at BW fans.
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Chess isn't as balanced as Starcraft.
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On April 27 2012 00:54 0neder wrote:
We'll see what Flash thinks of SC2 when he sees how powerful all-ins are relative to BW. =) I HOPE he dominates, because to me, that would validate SC2 a bit in terms of volatility, but I'm skeptical that he will (unless it's just by pure micro, like MKP).
MKP doesn't win by just pure micro? SC2 is at its core a game based on spontaneous and effective decision making. It's still got a long way to go in that regard, and Flash just may be one of those people to push the envelope.
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On April 27 2012 00:46 eYeball wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:01 ReadySetFire wrote:
Meh, Stephano would stomp this guy Now yes, but can you really say that when he's transition is complete? I don't think so.
I was trolling.
Flash would stomp stephano without knowing what the new units do
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On April 27 2012 00:42 Xiron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:39 Instigata wrote:
Funny seeing Blizzard desperate to make deals with kespa since LoL is taking over and with DOTA2 on it's way even HOTS won't save it. Guess they are trying to regain the foothold in Korea. If nothing happens soon, DotA2 will blow everything out of the water imo.
DotA2 will take half or more of LoL's eSports following and probably bring in more people who aren't into eSports right now. It will not affect FPS or RTS as it is neither of those game types. That is all.
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Imagine a player that has solid play like MVP, can micro like MKP, multitask/drop like MMA, AND has perfect mechanics, timings, and adaptation. This times 1000000 is Flash in BW. We haven't even come close to this in SC2. Flash won't be there right away for SC2, but he will definitely be one of select few that pushes SC2 above and beyond.
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I'm also looking forward to the whole elephant-in-the-room-theory being finally concluded as he actually starts playing (one way or the other)...
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On April 27 2012 00:58 Demonhunter04 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:52 Caihead wrote:On April 27 2012 00:49 Xiron wrote:On April 27 2012 00:40 Caihead wrote:
I'm really tired of people throwing around the word Elitist on BW fans, just because someone is biased in some way doesn't make them an elitist, no one is assuming that because we like broodwar we can have special previleges bestowed on us by merit of us liking BW to the expense of SC2 fans. As if every BW fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the SC2 fan, when the reality of the situation is the exact opposite. If a poster is biased and makes idiotic remarks, just rebute him and be done with it, stop labeling communities.
Thank you. This part of your post makes you just as 'bad' as the people you are criticising. Let me translate: 'Every SC2 fan is a burgeois capitalist being backed up by a powerful state military-industrial complex drinking champagne and taking away the previleges of the BW fan.' ... It's a stab at people who label elitists, because that's what they are doing. It's hyperbole to stress a point and why it's idiotic. You just proved my point. I'm labeling my own community as elitist in a self referential manner to prove that point and not what you are doing. No one's labeling SC2 fans as elitist, it's almost exclusively at BW fans. elitist
*Sigh* *leaves*
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On April 27 2012 00:40 Caihead wrote:
I'm really tired of people throwing around the word Elitist on BW fans, just because someone is biased in some way doesn't make them an elitist, no one is assuming that because we like broodwar we can have special previleges bestowed on us by merit of us liking BW to the expense of SC2 fans.
I don't normally like to weigh in on these arguments but seriously...try reading some of your fellow BW fans' posts.
The underlying tone behind a large number of them is "I like BW therefore I know better than you peasants".
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On April 27 2012 01:04 willoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:42 Xiron wrote:On April 27 2012 00:39 Instigata wrote:
Funny seeing Blizzard desperate to make deals with kespa since LoL is taking over and with DOTA2 on it's way even HOTS won't save it. Guess they are trying to regain the foothold in Korea. If nothing happens soon, DotA2 will blow everything out of the water imo. DotA2 will take half or more of LoL's eSports following and probably bring in more people who aren't into eSports right now. It will not affect FPS or RTS as it is neither of those game types. That is all.
Isn't there a chance that DOTA2 may not even come out?
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When does sc2/bw Proleague start?
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holy shiiieeeeeeet! what a discussion, why bother?
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On April 27 2012 01:02 ReadySetFire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:46 eYeball wrote:On April 27 2012 00:01 ReadySetFire wrote:
Meh, Stephano would stomp this guy Now yes, but can you really say that when he's transition is complete? I don't think so. I was trolling. Flash would stomp stephano without knowing what the new units do
No.... it would not be close... stephano would destroy him, no matter how "godly" you think Flash is, nobody can pick up the game, have no clue what the units do and still manage to beat a world class player.
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On April 27 2012 01:08 Josh_rakoons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 01:02 ReadySetFire wrote:On April 27 2012 00:46 eYeball wrote:On April 27 2012 00:01 ReadySetFire wrote:
Meh, Stephano would stomp this guy Now yes, but can you really say that when he's transition is complete? I don't think so. I was trolling. Flash would stomp stephano without knowing what the new units do No.... it would not be close... stephano would destroy him, no matter how "godly" you think Flash is, nobody can pick up the game, have no clue what the units do and still manage to beat a world class player.
You don't know how good Korean BW pros are.
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On April 27 2012 00:53 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:49 Garmer wrote:On April 27 2012 00:40 Delta-V wrote:I hope that Flash dominates in SC2. On April 27 2012 00:38 wuhan_clan wrote:
It's pretty clear to me that the games hierarchy goes something like .... LoL < SC2 < SC:BW < Chess < Life. Except that life isn't a game. Edit: lol unless you are talking about The Game of LIFE, but I wouldn't say that's better than chess. and chess isn't better than BW, no game is better than BW imho I love video games. I love SC2 and BW. But chess is the king of games
Yu-Gi-Oh Really?
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On April 27 2012 01:07 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 01:04 willoc wrote:On April 27 2012 00:42 Xiron wrote:On April 27 2012 00:39 Instigata wrote:
Funny seeing Blizzard desperate to make deals with kespa since LoL is taking over and with DOTA2 on it's way even HOTS won't save it. Guess they are trying to regain the foothold in Korea. If nothing happens soon, DotA2 will blow everything out of the water imo. DotA2 will take half or more of LoL's eSports following and probably bring in more people who aren't into eSports right now. It will not affect FPS or RTS as it is neither of those game types. That is all. Isn't there a chance that DOTA2 may not even come out?
No clue. You can pre-append "If it comes out," to my post if you like  .
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