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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 23 2012 17:46 GMT
#381
Nooo he was the reason I go phoenixes in PvZ now
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 23 2012 17:50 GMT
#382
On April 21 2012 10:43 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:41 Harem wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Noooo Bisu you must be Protoss! My mind can't even figure out what I would do if Bisu played a different race. It'd just be wrong.

You know that Bisu was originally Terran in BW right?

(so was Best)

So was Stork. But they all found their true (and far superior) calling.

Once you go Aiur, you can't go back.

HE would like to say hi.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 23 2012 17:57 GMT
#383
On April 23 2012 22:50 Scribbler! wrote:
Although I respect the current SC2 pro gamers — we're really going to see the game evolve once the top tier koreans transition...

I really can't wait to see some of the strats they'll bring.

They are not going to bring any new builds. They will just execute the same builds cleaner and faster.
"let your freak flag fly"
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5625 Posts
April 23 2012 18:12 GMT
#384
On April 24 2012 02:57 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 22:50 Scribbler! wrote:
Although I respect the current SC2 pro gamers — we're really going to see the game evolve once the top tier koreans transition...

I really can't wait to see some of the strats they'll bring.

They are not going to bring any new builds. They will just execute the same builds cleaner and faster.


Really? ;o Players capable of inventing new ways to play a 15 years old game won't come up with new builds for SC2? That sounds rather improbable.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
April 23 2012 18:15 GMT
#385
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 18:35:14
April 23 2012 18:32 GMT
#386
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5D4N-_Av4


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.


Are people really now arguing SC2 as the harder game mechanically than BW.... Honestly?

Also lol at 500eapm uhhh you might want to recheck the definition of eapm

Also after googlin

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Thats eapm chart from replays
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 23 2012 18:39 GMT
#387
On April 24 2012 01:37 Pelopidas wrote:
This thread makes me sad. Its like my grandfather died and my cousins are talking about exchanging his priceless family heirlooms for crack and Jersey Shore DVDs.


hehehehe +1 to your post, nice analogy
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
April 23 2012 18:41 GMT
#388
I hope that bisu sticks to protoss Liquid'Hero share a similar playstyle and its very entertaining. Imagine what Bisu will be able to do with his multitasking.
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
April 23 2012 18:42 GMT
#389
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.


Lol dude Bisu has been doing 5 things at once for eternity, it's been mentioned again and again by commentators.
There's a vod where he mounted 4 simultanous attacks (2 zealot harass attacks,a corsair attack, and main army attack) at 4 different places while still building probes, put them to mining, build army....
Khassar de Templari
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 18:54:17
April 23 2012 18:46 GMT
#390
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5D4N-_Av4


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.


350eapm? or 350apm?

Flash and Jaedong both consistently average 400-500 APM. Bisu is a bit slower at 330-390 but has very low spam and probably has the cleanest actions of all the players. Protoss is the least mechanically intensive race so Bisu having such high EAPM is a big deal. BW Protoss doesn't have APM sinks like creep spread and larva inject either, every single action he does is a unit action or macro/construction. Actions are also much harder in BW, you hold down R and spam 20 roaches, that's 20 actions, to make 20 dragoons is a lot more difficult.

He is also the only one I think that sends already working workers to work on different patches for more efficiency during mid-game.

Bisu FPVOD


Stephano FPVOD
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 23 2012 18:52 GMT
#391
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5D4N-_Av4


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.


high apm =/= doing shit tone of stuff really fcking fast.
do you know where majority of these high apm comes from? 1 click, 2 click, 3 click. just moving your army around the map.

with easier macro in sc2, no pros will have a problem doing multiple things at once.
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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 23 2012 19:23 GMT
#392
On April 24 2012 03:46 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5D4N-_Av4


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.


350eapm? or 350apm?

Flash and Jaedong both consistently average 400-500 APM. Bisu is a bit slower at 330-390 but has very low spam and probably has the cleanest actions of all the players. Protoss is the least mechanically intensive race so Bisu having such high EAPM is a big deal. BW Protoss doesn't have APM sinks like creep spread and larva inject either, every single action he does is a unit action or macro/construction. Actions are also much harder in BW, you hold down R and spam 20 roaches, that's 20 actions, to make 20 dragoons is a lot more difficult.

He is also the only one I think that sends already working workers to work on different patches for more efficiency during mid-game.

Bisu FPVOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWawFX-Qsls

Stephano FPVOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY7k7ggCOFk


Got a source for the FPVODs? I've been looking forever for a Fantasy FPVOD wanna see that vulture terror FP
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 19:41:54
April 23 2012 19:40 GMT
#393
On April 23 2012 21:05 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q


sick ! never saw this vid !
Would love to see a 5 prong attack on sc2



i think multitask is when you do various tasks at the same time... in the vid you can see the time jump 1-minute or more when the screen switch lol. this is a joke?

this game is real pvz multitask material: Jaedong vs Kal

and some real multitask and awesome micro fights: GOD young ho vs Jangbang

[image loading]
This is the way
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:15:30
April 23 2012 20:11 GMT
#394
On April 23 2012 23:44 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 23:04 SecondSandwich wrote:
Bisu as terran kind of feels right to me for some reason...

The same way it felt right when Flash lost twice in the finals?


the same way it felt right when Bisu get Crushed by noobs in the osl semis? where is his pvz multitask? XD
the same way it felt right when Flash won his 3 gold mice in OSL? the most important event in SC scene.
the same way it felt right when GODyoungHo has been winning all the records in Proleague all this years?
the same way it felt right when Flash raped Bisu in a protoss favored map in a proleague final some time before?

in this last final flash lost in a suspicious way, i don't know... "SK"telecom? "SK"Proleague? SK two consecutive lost history? final appearance? coincidence? just luck?
everyone knows that Flash can crush easily bisu and fantasy in any BoX match and.... whatever.

Sorry for the Spam :S
This is the way
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#395
On April 21 2012 10:23 Caladbolg wrote:
Man. It's really happening.

Yeah... :|
Hello
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#396
On April 24 2012 01:37 Pelopidas wrote:
This thread makes me sad. Its like my grandfather died and my cousins are talking about exchanging his priceless family heirlooms for crack and Jersey Shore DVDs.

lol
Writer:o
kade
Profile Joined March 2011
94 Posts
April 23 2012 20:35 GMT
#397
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


if you can play sair/reaver your multitask is good for just about anything
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 23 2012 20:36 GMT
#398
On April 24 2012 03:15 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 20:25 Ncutable wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On April 23 2012 19:08 Ncutable wrote:
Sorry for not reading the thread in whole and maybe being a little off topic. But since some people said that Terran would fit Bisu's Multitasking capability so well. I really think that Zerg might have even more room for sick Multitasking than the other races. I'd love to see some high lvl BW pros using all control groups and constantly harrassing with small groups of Zerglings and always having some overlords around to drop undefended mineral lines etc. while keeping up with their Macro. It always makes me a little bit sad to not see Overlord Drop capability or also Burrow harrass used very often. But I guess when these high lvl pros switch, we'll see some sick Multitasking and harrassment from all the races.
Also, I didn't want to say that Bisu should switch to Zerg. I don't want anyone to get offended since I am an absolute BW-newbie.


That kind of extremely fickle multitasking suits Jaedong better than Bisu. Jaedong can't multitask as well as Bisu, but his execution is sublime.

Watch how Jaedong uses one ling to deny spores until his mutas arive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5D4N-_Av4


Bisu's multitasking is a lot more haphazard but at the same time, beautiful to watch. Commentators say he usually keeps tabs of 5 different screens at a time, "does he have 3 hands?!!" comes up quite a lot. He has a unique style of PvZ that others fruitlessly try to copy because they simply don't have the skill to keep corsairs roaming around the map non-stop with perfect macro and harass. He has a habit of losing his shuttle at critical moments a lot giving him the nickname "Kims Shuttle" though, its probably because he often tries to out-do himself by maintaining perfect macro with multitask.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

Unfortunately Flash is blocked at work + Show Spoiler +
he is not impressed with that though
, so I have to watch that later. But thanks for throwing some light on these things for a poor BW-latecomer. Here's hoping then that if Jaedong switches he will show us what Zerg is really able to do...


While these players will be ale to control excellently, i feel people ignore a few things. SC2 is a lot faster than BW. They will need to be faster to do all this harass etc. Secondly, have you looked at how fast MVPDongRaeGu is?. Don't tell me that anyone will be miles ahead of him. He sits constantly over 350 epm and went way higher in the recent MLG. 500 at times. I'm as excited as the next guy for them switching, but i'm cautious as to how fast they can actually be.

I think the biggest skill is actually doing 3 or more things at once. Obviously they could have a higher capability of that but wow would that be impressive.

Have you ever even played BW?

I also find it very hard to believe anyone plays SC2 at more than 300 APM consistently, much less 300 eAPM. There were like...two progamers in BW who consistently hit over 500 APM.

BW requires more multitasking and more actions. When they say SC2 is faster, they refer to the game's pace. Everything is compacted and happens faster. You spend less time at the beginning of the game staring at workers mining in SC2. Average game lengths are also shorter.
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I'm intrigued by the idea that SC2 may be more difficult to multi-task due to it's faster pace. I understand that there are differences in game design that may also cancel that out, so to speak, but I have some hope that players like Bisu can push the metagame in amazing new directions.
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April 23 2012 23:27 GMT
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