On April 09 2012 22:18 Micket wrote: Wait... if Stephano practices more than most of the Europeans (and I assume North americans), then how much does the foreign community actually practice? When people said the foreigners couldn't keep up with the Koreans due to culture and infrastructure, I thought that was a reasonable argument. Now, it just seems they are incredibly lazy and used culture and infrastructure as an excuse.
Stephano said himself he doesn't really practice SC2.
Which means he practices less than most Europeans.
Most professionals practice way more than him, and that's why his success is so interesting.
Culture/infrastruce do play a role, since PC Bangs in Korea really are the spawning pool of eSports.
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote: I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?
stephano practices more than most pros in europe
Yeah I wonder where this idea that Stephano doesn't practice much comes from.
I believe he said that he only play 4-5 hours a day in some interview like last spring/summer while he was still in school and people still want to believe that he does so because 1. his success becomes more badass because he is foreigner and doesn't grind like koreans and 2. because if he can become so good by only playing 4 hours than there is hope that everyone can too! (-_-)
This is from an interview while he was in kr for the blizzard cup, just before his matches, where he stated he practiced 4-5 hours for it:
Imo there are other pros like nerchio,mana maybe thorzain amongst others who don't practice much but are less vocal about it, or get less attention because they are not as successful.However just practice hours don't mean much when the quality is much less than the absolute best and much less systematic(without specific plans of improvement).
really it not how long you practice its how you practice. Personaly i think have a small practice group (4 5 6) people and playing for 3 4 hours a day would be fine
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote: I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?
stephano practices more than most pros in europe
Yeah I wonder where this idea that Stephano doesn't practice much comes from.
I believe he said that he only play 4-5 hours a day in some interview like last spring/summer while he was still in school and people still want to believe that he does so because 1. his success becomes more badass because he is foreigner and doesn't grind like koreans and 2. because if he can become so good by only playing 4 hours than there is hope that everyone can too! (-_-)
Imo there are other pros like nerchio,mana maybe thorzain amongst others who don't practice much but are less vocal about it, or get less attention because they are not as successful.However just practice hours don't mean much when the quality is much less than the absolute best and much less systematic(without specific plans of improvement).
Well with Nerchio and Mana, I think they both still go to school so they can't practice all the time.
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote: I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?
stephano practices more than most pros in europe
How do you know that. Have you asked other pros how many hours/day they practice. And if so, could you give specific exampless?
When that is said, it doesn't surprise me that pros dont practice 8hours/day (efficient hours, meaning they dont chat for 5-10 minutes between games). It just seems to be everytime I watch foreigners play (that is not stephano, HUk, naniwa) that they make so many mistakes, and of similar level that I see at high masters. I would feel that full-time pros would have fixed these leaks by now, but they continue to play at a subpar level.
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote: I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?
stephano practices more than most pros in europe
How do you know that. Have you asked other pros how many hours/day they practice. And if so, could you give specific exampless?
..... I don't want to say anything about other pros but I've seen Stephano practicing way more than all the ones I personally know. Also Stephano never stopped playing while every pro had several long or short breaks in the past 2 years.
On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote: I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.
edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.
You are right about that, but with that mindset some things in life just doesn't work out, and being a Starcraft progamer is one of them. You just have to pretty much drop everything in your life and dedicate all your time to practice and the game in general for being successful. You can't just play like 5 hours a day and live a "normal" life because it feels good for you, that won't make you win anything and it shows on every foreigner that isn't grinding this game all day everyday (the only exception would be Stephano?).
hahahaha you realize that you are talking to darkforce right? he IS a foreign pro, and with that mindset I would say he is pretty successful! he's shown that he can go toe to toe with koreans in a macro game.
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