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Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
April 09 2012 13:30 GMT
#81
On April 09 2012 22:18 Micket wrote:
Wait... if Stephano practices more than most of the Europeans (and I assume North americans), then how much does the foreign community actually practice? When people said the foreigners couldn't keep up with the Koreans due to culture and infrastructure, I thought that was a reasonable argument. Now, it just seems they are incredibly lazy and used culture and infrastructure as an excuse.


Stephano said himself he doesn't really practice SC2.

Which means he practices less than most Europeans.

Most professionals practice way more than him, and that's why his success is so interesting.

Culture/infrastruce do play a role, since PC Bangs in Korea really are the spawning pool of eSports.

Got that.
c78331
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 13:33:35
April 09 2012 13:31 GMT
#82
On April 09 2012 19:50 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:48 Poopi wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:45 aTnClouD wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?

stephano practices more than most pros in europe

Yeah I wonder where this idea that Stephano doesn't practice much comes from.

I believe he said that he only play 4-5 hours a day in some interview like last spring/summer while he was still in school and people still want to believe that he does so because 1. his success becomes more badass because he is foreigner and doesn't grind like koreans and 2. because if he can become so good by only playing 4 hours than there is hope that everyone can too! (-_-)


This is from an interview while he was in kr for the blizzard cup, just before his matches, where he stated he practiced 4-5 hours for it:


Imo there are other pros like nerchio,mana maybe thorzain amongst others who don't practice much but are less vocal about it, or get less attention because they are not as successful.However just practice hours don't mean much when the quality is much less than the absolute best and much less systematic(without specific plans of improvement).

ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
April 09 2012 13:34 GMT
#83
really it not how long you practice its how you practice. Personaly i think have a small practice group (4 5 6) people and playing for 3 4 hours a day would be fine
SC > halo
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
April 09 2012 13:35 GMT
#84
Pros who say they don't practice much probably practice alot more than they say
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Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
April 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#85
To the point that Starcraft becomes your social life.
Wishing you well.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
April 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#86
On April 09 2012 22:31 c78331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:50 Gosi wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:48 Poopi wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:45 aTnClouD wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?

stephano practices more than most pros in europe

Yeah I wonder where this idea that Stephano doesn't practice much comes from.

I believe he said that he only play 4-5 hours a day in some interview like last spring/summer while he was still in school and people still want to believe that he does so because 1. his success becomes more badass because he is foreigner and doesn't grind like koreans and 2. because if he can become so good by only playing 4 hours than there is hope that everyone can too! (-_-)


This is from an interview while he was in kr for the blizzard cup, just before his matches, where he stated he practiced 4-5 hours for it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4J0tk1Tdw#t=03m35s

Imo there are other pros like nerchio,mana maybe thorzain amongst others who don't practice much but are less vocal about it, or get less attention because they are not as successful.However just practice hours don't mean much when the quality is much less than the absolute best and much less systematic(without specific plans of improvement).


Well with Nerchio and Mana, I think they both still go to school so they can't practice all the time.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9420 Posts
April 09 2012 14:00 GMT
#87
On April 09 2012 19:45 aTnClouD wrote:
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On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?

stephano practices more than most pros in europe


How do you know that. Have you asked other pros how many hours/day they practice. And if so, could you give specific exampless?

When that is said, it doesn't surprise me that pros dont practice 8hours/day (efficient hours, meaning they dont chat for 5-10 minutes between games). It just seems to be everytime I watch foreigners play (that is not stephano, HUk, naniwa) that they make so many mistakes, and of similar level that I see at high masters. I would feel that full-time pros would have fixed these leaks by now, but they continue to play at a subpar level.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
April 09 2012 14:12 GMT
#88
On April 09 2012 23:00 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:45 aTnClouD wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:41 huehuehuehue wrote:
I'm just wondering are there other players like Stephano who are really succesful without practicing that much?

stephano practices more than most pros in europe


How do you know that. Have you asked other pros how many hours/day they practice. And if so, could you give specific exampless?


.....
I don't want to say anything about other pros but I've seen Stephano practicing way more than all the ones I personally know. Also Stephano never stopped playing while every pro had several long or short breaks in the past 2 years.
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
April 09 2012 14:13 GMT
#89
On April 09 2012 22:16 Chronald wrote:
NesTea doesn't practice.

Said so on stage at IPL.

Why practice when the game plays itself?


He was kidding, rofl. He was poking fun at the fact that Stephano used to claim he only practiced 3-4 hours a day.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 09 2012 14:14 GMT
#90
3-5 hours probably.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
April 09 2012 14:14 GMT
#91
i bet non koreans play on average 5 hours a day
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#92
please ask this stuff in the simple question-answer thread
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#93
On April 09 2012 23:14 IMoperator wrote:
3-5 hours probably.


and please, please do not listen to this clown


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Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 14:23:38
April 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#94
On April 09 2012 18:22 Gosi wrote:
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On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.

You are right about that, but with that mindset some things in life just doesn't work out, and being a Starcraft progamer is one of them. You just have to pretty much drop everything in your life and dedicate all your time to practice and the game in general for being successful. You can't just play like 5 hours a day and live a "normal" life because it feels good for you, that won't make you win anything and it shows on every foreigner that isn't grinding this game all day everyday (the only exception would be Stephano?).

hahahaha you realize that you are talking to darkforce right? he IS a foreign pro, and with that mindset I would say he is pretty successful! he's shown that he can go toe to toe with koreans in a macro game.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
April 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#95
On April 09 2012 22:38 Kyhol wrote:
To the point that Starcraft becomes your social life.

lol, kyhol fighting
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Blezza
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom191 Posts
April 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#96
DRG said in an interview that he plays atleast 60 games per day.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
April 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#97
On April 09 2012 23:18 Blezza wrote:
DRG said in an interview that he plays atleast 60 games per day.

Explain why his mechanics are so insane
WriterMaru
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
April 09 2012 14:24 GMT
#98
On April 09 2012 23:13 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 22:16 Chronald wrote:
NesTea doesn't practice.

Said so on stage at IPL.

Why practice when the game plays itself?


He was kidding, rofl. He was poking fun at the fact that Stephano used to claim he only practiced 3-4 hours a day.

NesTea probably doesn't practice as much as other Koreans, because AFAIK he doesn't live in the IM house, so he practices a lot from PCbangs etc.
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
April 09 2012 14:27 GMT
#99
Stephano definitely practices more than he says he does.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
April 09 2012 14:29 GMT
#100
ClashPanther told me he plays an average of 30 games per day, some Korean devotion there.
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