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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 09 2012 09:22 GMT
#41
8 hours should be the norm, but I think most foreigners do 2-5 hours at max
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
April 09 2012 09:22 GMT
#42
On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.

You are right about that, but with that mindset some things in life just doesn't work out, and being a Starcraft progamer is one of them. You just have to pretty much drop everything in your life and dedicate all your time to practice and the game in general for being successful. You can't just play like 5 hours a day and live a "normal" life because it feels good for you, that won't make you win anything and it shows on every foreigner that isn't grinding this game all day everyday (the only exception would be Stephano?).
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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
April 09 2012 09:25 GMT
#43
On April 09 2012 18:14 Poopi wrote:
MarineKing said he pra tices 18 hours a day, dunno if it's a mistranslation be ause he can't get enough sleep like that.
Other pros it probably depends, 8-10?

I think he is practicing shopping 18 hours a day because his style is just amazing. but srsly I think its 8-12 but before tournament it can be easily 14-18. even CS players do practice 12h sometimes.
You can see how much did Nal_Ra practice in Old boy.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 09 2012 09:25 GMT
#44
When White-Ra is in practice mode I think I remember him shooting for like atleast 50 or 60 games a day? I don't remember that well since that was many months ago when he was in hardcore practice mode and was streaming atleast half of his games each day.

In reality pro players should be playing no less than 10 hours a day and most Korean pros practice atleast 10-12 hours a day.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
April 09 2012 09:29 GMT
#45
On April 09 2012 18:25 Hall0wed wrote:
When White-Ra is in practice mode I think I remember him shooting for like atleast 50 or 60 games a day? I don't remember that well since that was many months ago when he was in hardcore practice mode and was streaming atleast half of his games each day.

In reality pro players should be playing no less than 10 hours a day and most Korean pros practice atleast 10-12 hours a day.


For sc2 korean pros that is just a myth. Playing ~50+ games a day is the exception, not the rule, sadly
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Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
April 09 2012 09:33 GMT
#46
A lot of the pros actually lie about their hours, im sure of it. This was confirmed to me during the first red bull lan when white ra stated he was disappointed in the way a lot of foreigners couldn't even do more then 30-40 games while him and bomber were doing it np. You can truly see in the play of those who don't practice. But the least amount you would want a day is around 30. In the end though, all that matters are results. There are players like jinro and major who obviously play tons a games but are yet to show major results in a while, and then there are players like stephano who admit to not practicing much yet having excellent play. It all depends. In the end though, people like Flash and even Kobe Bryant didn't become who they are by playing tons of hours, They played till they literally couldn't play anymore for the day.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 09:34:30
April 09 2012 09:33 GMT
#47
You guys should significantly lower your expectations if you want to include foreigners.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
April 09 2012 09:34 GMT
#48
Less than everybody think. European pros are lazy. We need to change this and teams need to hire coaches to check on players and give them a proper schedule and find practice partners.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13006 Posts
April 09 2012 09:41 GMT
#49
On April 09 2012 18:34 aTnClouD wrote:
Less than everybody think. European pros are lazy. We need to change this and teams need to hire coaches to check on players and give them a proper schedule and find practice partners.

Yeah if EU pros practiced that much we would see a lot of smurfs coming from several players on top of the GM league like in korea.
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Eiaco
Profile Joined January 2012
170 Posts
April 09 2012 09:46 GMT
#50
Stephano said that he practices 4 hours a day.
iMech
Profile Joined July 2011
United States28 Posts
April 09 2012 09:50 GMT
#51
I think that a lot of people reading the thread are thinking of practice as constantly playing games. I think that the model of EG obsing, watching, coaching each other, and working on improving is much closer to what the Korean teams likely do than just banging out ladder games. I doubt that they go into any practice match without something specific that they want to work on, and they likely practice against a top-tier practice partner on specific things such as (zerg examples) stopping bunker rushes, dealing with cannons, dealing with early pools, stopping mutas, etc.
HarryKlein
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany220 Posts
April 09 2012 09:53 GMT
#52
It is sad to see that people, who have the possibility to play a videogame as their job are so lazy.
Of course you should life healthy etc. but "normal" people somehow manage to work 8hours a day and life healthy - so what is the problem with playing 8 hours a day?
Or let's say 6 hours playing + 1 hour pause.

On April 09 2012 18:34 aTnClouD wrote:
Less than everybody think. European pros are lazy. We need to change this and teams need to hire coaches to check on players and give them a proper schedule and find practice partners.


You are one of the few pro gamers in Europe.
I think you are the only pro gamer from Italy.
You are living the dream of many tl.net users I guess.
If you want to have a coach etc. then go to korea and practice in a Team House.
There you have a lot practice partners, a maid and a coach.
Or you just stop being lazy and start realizing how gifted you actually are.
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
April 09 2012 09:55 GMT
#53
If you play at that rate, OP, you will improve plenty. ATM i only play an hour every week or so, at this rate I'll never hit masters lol (low diamond atm)
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
Slightly
Profile Joined November 2011
United States80 Posts
April 09 2012 10:00 GMT
#54
Stephano recently stated that he practices 8+ hours a day, although before he used to only practice 3 or 4. I believe it was on the SotG interview. I would imagine an 8 - 10 hour practice schedule would exist for most Korean teams and would involve a lot of the different aspects that have already been stated. Watching replays, strategy discussion, etc. For foreigners, there really isn't the same sort of responsibility. Not saying the players themselves are lazy but that without a regulating body to keep them on task and focused, I believe it very likely foreign pros not only much less, but also much less efficiently.
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
April 09 2012 10:08 GMT
#55
On April 09 2012 16:51 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:40 Corsica wrote:
max is 16 i think, i remember huk saying that if they lose gstl they practice 16 hours, if they win (round) they get treated to a dinneer


NesTea has said he's done some 16 hour practice sessions at PC bangs (with smoke breaks of course)

The average seems to be 20 ladder games and 20 custom games a day. (source = bnet profiles)


"smoke break"? WAIT NesTea smokes? As in smoking cigarettes and tobacco, etc. Or is it just an idiom or the term?
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 10:15:07
April 09 2012 10:10 GMT
#56
On April 09 2012 18:22 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.

You are right about that, but with that mindset some things in life just doesn't work out, and being a Starcraft progamer is one of them. You just have to pretty much drop everything in your life and dedicate all your time to practice and the game in general for being successful. You can't just play like 5 hours a day and live a "normal" life because it feels good for you, that won't make you win anything and it shows on every foreigner that isn't grinding this game all day everyday (the only exception would be Stephano?).


My results have gotten much better after i started looking more at other aspects than just practising as much as possible. I think you have no clue tbh. Also, life continues after you stop playing starcraft.

I know most of you think that every foreigner should practise every wake hour he has and that we have no right to do anything else.
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 10:16:36
April 09 2012 10:13 GMT
#57
I'm not a pro, I'm just a causal gamer who takes sc2 seriously.
I tried playing 8-10 hrs for 2 days, and I can tell you that you get exhausted in a extreme way. Your body is aching, your eyes are tired etc. But I think it can be possible if you do some kind of physical exercise & eat healthy. I did some yoga stretches which helped immensely! But it is def. a strain on the body, I think anyone who have played a lot can attest to this?
Also, on another related topic isn't it just as important to analyse replays & get "sc2 knowledge"?
Any pros have an opinion on this?
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
April 09 2012 10:15 GMT
#58
When there is some tournament up to 10 hours, other days more like 2 :D
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Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
April 09 2012 10:16 GMT
#59
On April 09 2012 19:10 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 18:22 Gosi wrote:
On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.

You are right about that, but with that mindset some things in life just doesn't work out, and being a Starcraft progamer is one of them. You just have to pretty much drop everything in your life and dedicate all your time to practice and the game in general for being successful. You can't just play like 5 hours a day and live a "normal" life because it feels good for you, that won't make you win anything and it shows on every foreigner that isn't grinding this game all day everyday (the only exception would be Stephano?).


My results have gotten much better after i started looking more at other aspects than just practising as much as possible. I think you have no clue tbh. Also, life continues after you stop playing starcraft.

I know most of you think that every foreigner should practise every wake hour he has and that we have no right to do anything else.


As long as you are healthy then the more you practice, the better. The more your brain is exposed to situations in the game, the better chance you can recollect the best choice of action. However, this is assuming that practice well and not just laddering blindly.
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 10:19:37
April 09 2012 10:17 GMT
#60
On April 09 2012 19:13 SoniC_eu wrote:
I'm not a pro, I'm just a causal gamer who takes sc2 seriously.
I tried playing 8-10 hrs for 2 days, and I can tell you that you get exhausted in a extreme way. Your body is aching, your eyes are tired etc. But I think it can be possible if you do some kind of physical exercise & eat healthy. I did some yoga stretches which helped immensely! But it is def. a strain on the body, I think anyone who have played a lot can attest to this?
Any pros have an opinion on this?

Yes its very exhausting, even moreso if you play at a very high level.

I really think all of the people who have a gigantic mouth here and tell others how and what they should do, please go ahead in practise 12 hours a day for a week and then play a tournament at the end and come back and tell me how it went.
In fact, if find it really annoying.
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