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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:24 huehuehuehue wrote: NesTea probably doesn't practice as much as other Koreans, because AFAIK he doesn't live in the IM house, so he practices a lot from PCbangs etc. just cause he doesn't live there doesn't mean he can't go to the IM house. who would practice at a PC Bang anyways, it's an awful environment | ||
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Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:31 Chaggi wrote: just cause he doesn't live there doesn't mean he can't go to the IM house. who would practice at a PC Bang anyways, it's an awful environment He prolly just practices wherever he can smoke while playing, imagine we have never seen Nestea play while smoking. Scary thought. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:00 Hider wrote: How do you know that. Have you asked other pros how many hours/day they practice. And if so, could you give specific exampless? When that is said, it doesn't surprise me that pros dont practice 8hours/day (efficient hours, meaning they dont chat for 5-10 minutes between games). It just seems to be everytime I watch foreigners play (that is not stephano, HUk, naniwa) that they make so many mistakes, and of similar level that I see at high masters. I would feel that full-time pros would have fixed these leaks by now, but they continue to play at a subpar level. Being a known SC2 and BW players, I'm sure that ClouD is friends with almost all European pros. He could easily get the practice ties for everyone. | ||
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Leeder
Austria22 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:31 Chaggi wrote: just cause he doesn't live there doesn't mean he can't go to the IM house. who would practice at a PC Bang anyways, it's an awful environment Watch the SOTG with Nestea. He said that he likes to practice at PCBangs because it prepares him better for a tournament environment. | ||
Destructicon
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PaulieAB
Romania44 Posts
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
You need to play three times that every day for a year to get started. After that you can probably drop down to 10 hours a day if you are focused. lol. OK, bud. | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On April 09 2012 19:00 Slightly wrote: Stephano recently stated that he practices 8+ hours a day, although before he used to only practice 3 or 4. I believe it was on the SotG interview. I would imagine an 8 - 10 hour practice schedule would exist for most Korean teams and would involve a lot of the different aspects that have already been stated. Watching replays, strategy discussion, etc. For foreigners, there really isn't the same sort of responsibility. Not saying the players themselves are lazy but that without a regulating body to keep them on task and focused, I believe it very likely foreign pros not only much less, but also much less efficiently. No, on the SOTG, he said that in Korea he was practicing 8+ hours a day because he had nothing else to do. He said, in that interview, that when in EU he practices 5-6 hours a day and when he was in school it was closer to three. Just last week though, in an interview with HotBid(? -- the TL guy), he said he practices closer to 3 hours a day and then if he's streaming and there are a lot of viewers he'll keep playing (typically for 5 or 6 hours), so go figure. (He said if you don't believe that he practices so little to ask Bling about his practice habits.  ) Prior to IPL he was practicing irregularly (not practicing on quite a few days) and playing not that long when he did practice - typically 10 to 20 games a day. When he came back from Korea he definitely was playing his best Starcraft to date IMO so I think that even Stephano would benefit from playing 8-10 hours a day and even more importantly, playing against top competition. If this was mentioned apologies, but I recall reading that Jaedong typically would practice around 13 hours a day and that Flash would practice up to 20 hours a day when he was preparing for a pro league match. Those are the sorts of practice habits that will make you great. Even with immense talent, you're not going to beat someone who's talented and who prepares both harder and smarter than you do. There are lots of famous examples of this sort of things happening -- Alekhine-Capablanca jumps immediately to mind. | ||
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Noyect
Sweden129 Posts
 In contrast, Naniwa said in an interview with hot_bid that Flash had been playing 60 games of sc2 per day when recovering from his surgery since he wasn't supposed to strain his wrist with broodwar. Stephano mentions here on SotG in march that he practices 5-6 hours a day and I believe IdrA stated that the korean sc2 houses had a much more relaxed schedule than the bw houses, of "just" 8 hours a day, | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On April 09 2012 22:35 Veclada wrote: Pros who say they don't practice much probably practice alot more than they say This is very possible. Not everyone does this but some people, in order to inflate the importance of their accomplishments and lessen the importance of failures and shortcomings, will tend to understate how hard they work. This sort of thing happened in law school all of the time, at least where I went to school. People were always understating how much they studied for a test or how often they prepared for class even though it was clear, in some cases at least, that they had studied quite hard. Similarly, if you want to undermine the significance of someone else's achievements, people will say that he or she just works harder than other people in a given field. (See Cloud's comments above about Stephano's praciticing more than most EU pros for example.) | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
You can't practice 2-5 hours a day and remain competitive with those playing 8-12 hours a day. I feel like the Korean's generally longer practice sessions is a large factor in their consistency vs. foreigners | ||
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di3alot
172 Posts
On April 09 2012 16:04 zEnVy wrote: Hello there, I just have a pretty simple question. How much on average, do you think a starcraft 2 pro player spends just playing games each day? I only ask because I've adopted SC2 as my hobby, and when I'm not working my full time job or partying on the weekends I like to shut in and bang out some SC2 games. I'd like to dedicate a lot of time to this game and see where it takes me. Just for fun, I played about 20 games today, and I would say the average game time is around 15 minutes or so (that's probably a little conservative), which means I played ~300 minutes or 5 hours. Is this on par with what a pro player does? Or do I need to ramp it up even more? its a full time job everyone who does not consider this as a job is stupid and anyone that considers himself as a pro gamer and has no job or school. and doesn't treats this as a full time job is just a lazy fuck and only abuses the fact that he is not working in a office with a boss behind him. with that being said i think that you can answer your question by yourself. | ||
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iYiYi
United States489 Posts
There are foreigner pros who do train hard too. I guarantee IdrA and Huk put tons of hours into the game when they are in their zone (although it seems lately HuK has been missing some days). Some other foreign pros not so much though. I keep queing with Catz/Minigun when I play DotA 2. Aren't they sponsored to play SC2? | ||
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cccever
17 Posts
On April 10 2012 00:03 The_Darkness wrote: No, on the SOTG, he said that in Korea he was practicing 8+ hours a day because he had nothing else to do. He said, in that interview, that when in EU he practices 5-6 hours a day and when he was in school it was closer to three. Just last week though, in an interview with HotBid(? -- the TL guy), he said he practices closer to 3 hours a day and then if he's streaming and there are a lot of viewers he'll keep playing (typically for 5 or 6 hours), so go figure. Yes, here: Mill.Stephano Interview @ MLG Winter Championships | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
where is the evidence? I strongly think a large part of their success is about how they train. Just spending time doing something DOES NOT make you better (unless you really suck at it) ... you will have a natural limit that is nowhere near your real potential. The trick is getting the most out of your time to get you closer to it. So I really think that 5 hours playing + 2-3 hours on practise would be FAR more productive. Moreover you show me someone who is really working 10 hours a day everyday ill show you someone working far less than their best or someone who is about to burnout. 10 hours a day is stupid ... training is about directed intensity. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On April 10 2012 00:43 iYiYi wrote: All the top pros you see winning these tournaments lately have insane work ethic. People like Alive, MarineKing, MMA, etc all play a lot (at least 12+ hours a day). Even if they say they don't they really do, there's no way to get on the level of a champion without it. There are foreigner pros who do train hard too. I guarantee IdrA and Huk put tons of hours into the game when they are in their zone (although it seems lately HuK has been missing some days). Some other foreign pros not so much though. I keep queing with Catz/Minigun when I play DotA 2. Aren't they sponsored to play SC2? Catz and Minigun are semi pro at best now a days. I wouldn't be surprised to see if they switched over to a different game full time at some point or just stop playing professionally entirely. I mean really even when I think of pro foreigners catz and minigun barely come to mind. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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Ph4ZeD
United Kingdom753 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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