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DMZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:44:18
April 09 2012 07:37 GMT
#21
Well, Stephano structures his practices so he only does around 4-5 hours per day, while on the other end of the extreme you have Koreans who practice the entire day. Then you have other pro players which span the entire spectrum, although most seem to practice around 8-12 hours per day.

It really depends on what you are practicing and whether you have specific goals while you practice. Structuring your practice with clear goals on what you are trying to practice is extremely helpful. I would guess 5 hours is about the bare minimum though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285603

The article pretty much covers everything i just said; although its more of a debate over the value of a team house, but it does examine how pros practice.

And a useful read for practicing: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/How_to_Practice
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 09 2012 07:40 GMT
#22
max is 16 i think, i remember huk saying that if they lose gstl they practice 16 hours, if they win (round) they get treated to a dinneer
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
April 09 2012 07:43 GMT
#23
It depends on who your talking about. If its someone thats currently in school I wouldnt expect more than 5-8 hours. Anybody else and it can be anywhere from 10-6 depending on what they are doing and what they are planning to get accomplished. Im not pro but I have goals to get there someday and I practice on smurfs between 6-8 hours a day. on weekends i may get 8-10 if nothings going on.
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
April 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#24
korean in teamhouses 8+ hours.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#25
Depends on the professional and their innate capable of precise decision-making.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 09 2012 07:48 GMT
#26
probably 30-50 games per day to maintain mechanics. other than that alot of analysis, alot of practicing one certain thing (my marine splits are weak, im going to practice them until it's perfect then practice it even more.) alot of certain build practicing vs and doing. etc etc...

quality of practice counts alot to.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:52:08
April 09 2012 07:51 GMT
#27
On April 09 2012 16:40 Corsica wrote:
max is 16 i think, i remember huk saying that if they lose gstl they practice 16 hours, if they win (round) they get treated to a dinneer


NesTea has said he's done some 16 hour practice sessions at PC bangs (with smoke breaks of course)

The average seems to be 20 ladder games and 20 custom games a day. (source = bnet profiles)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:57:19
April 09 2012 07:56 GMT
#28
On April 09 2012 16:37 DMZ wrote:
Well, Stephano structures his practices so he only does around 4-5 hours per day, while on the other end of the extreme you have Koreans who practice the entire day. Then you have other pro players which span the entire spectrum, although most seem to practice around 8-12 hours per day.

It really depends on what you are practicing and whether you have specific goals while you practice. Structuring your practice with clear goals on what you are trying to practice is extremely helpful. I would guess 5 hours is about the bare minimum though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285603

The article pretty much covers everything i just said; although its more of a debate over the value of a team house, but it does examine how pros practice.

And a useful read for practicing: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/How_to_Practice


Stephano has said he plays more then 4 hours a day awhile ago. He used to but then started playing more once he went to korea.

In general koreans probably practice 8+ hours easy, and I imagine foreign pro's do 5-6 hours.

Even if foreigners practice as much as koreans the koreans would still be a lot better imo just because of team house + coaches.
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 09 2012 07:59 GMT
#29
On April 09 2012 16:51 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:40 Corsica wrote:
max is 16 i think, i remember huk saying that if they lose gstl they practice 16 hours, if they win (round) they get treated to a dinneer


NesTea has said he's done some 16 hour practice sessions at PC bangs (with smoke breaks of course)

The average seems to be 20 ladder games and 20 custom games a day. (source = bnet profiles)



its nestea, he probably altered the fabric of time so he could play more games than its possible in 16 hours, and 16 hours turned in 24 hours...
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
April 09 2012 08:00 GMT
#30
You can average games per pro by looking at the profiles and it breaks down to 20-30 games a day with about 24 being average.

semi pro or not big pro names sometimes play around 12-15 sometimes less (this is on NA)

All in all NA pros done play as much as they claim as reflected in both custom game counts and ladder games (taking away smurf accounts and other servers) so I would say 10 games a day will show great progress 20 a day if you really want to go far.
I have tested this myself and it proves to hold true (8 hour challenge for a week straight)
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
April 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#31
I think marineking practices 14 hours a day.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
April 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#32
50+ game a day.
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Jintetsu
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
April 09 2012 08:15 GMT
#33
i know thorzain doesnt play much at all but still manages to be on top, same with ret... like said before it varies alot from player to player
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aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
April 09 2012 08:16 GMT
#34
They have pretty set schedules and I'd love to get my hands on one. We can say they spend their entire day improving. May that be grinding out PvT games, Watching reps, discussing the game. They dedicate 100% of their time to practice. They'll take breaks for food but the highest level pros sneak in as much time as possible. I would say it's more realistic to say 10 hours a day of just SC2 improvement. The main question you should ask yourself is what tier of pro? MKP has practised up to 18 hours in a single day and now he's winning damn near everything. A player like HuK who is one of the most dedicated foreigner players puts in roughly 8-9 hours and is mid-high code S level. Results vary between the players. Some people get to fatigued playing 11 hours straight and that ammount of practice isn't right for them. I myself put in 11 hours a day and don't mind sitting the entire time and taking minimal breaks. My practice partners have to take several breaks through-out our practice sessions. Everyone is different, Play as long as you feel comfortable and what is efficient for you.

P.S. Sorry for the wall of text/ 2:15 AM here and haven't slept in a while.
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Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
April 09 2012 09:05 GMT
#35
Khaldor once said that many foreign pros say they practice alot, but in REALITY they don't practice that much. Lazy bastards.

Of course there are exceptions.
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 09:09:37
April 09 2012 09:07 GMT
#36
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 09 2012 09:08 GMT
#37
I've read that most BW teams have like 12 hour mandatory practice, and some people will add 3 hours on top of that. Most sc2 practice isn't that intense, but anything over 8 hours a day is basically standard.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 09 2012 09:12 GMT
#38
On April 09 2012 18:07 DarKFoRcE wrote:
I think most of you overestimate how much pros practise. I also think its more important to be happy and healthy and just feel good in general, than to practise as much as humanly possible.

edit: This is talking about foreigners, koreans practise more in general.


Yup, foreign pro's don't practice as much, koreans practice a ton it's why they so gosu :D
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
April 09 2012 09:14 GMT
#39
MarineKing said he pra tices 18 hours a day, dunno if it's a mistranslation be ause he can't get enough sleep like that.
Other pros it probably depends, 8-10?
WriterMaru
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
April 09 2012 09:20 GMT
#40
On April 09 2012 18:05 Coeus1 wrote:
Khaldor once said that many foreign pros say they practice alot, but in REALITY they don't practice that much. Lazy bastards.

Of course there are exceptions.

I don't doubt him. If NA pros were playing 10 hours a day or whatever like they claim, they wouldn't be so bad .
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