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That account was created on 2010-05-05 02:18:54 and had 293 posts.

Reason: You kinda behaved since your last "last chance". As such your break is just 90 days instead of forever.
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Reason: I happened.
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That account was created on 2010-09-06 22:17:48 and had 87 posts.

Reason: I'm a mod, GG.
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That account was created on 2011-04-17 07:38:51 and had 80 posts.

Reason:
On January 17 2012 08:55 GranDGranT wrote:
Pretty Much The ruling is a piece of Shit and that organization should die.

It was hard to spot this piece of garbage amongst the heap that is your 80 posts. That is pretty self explanatory.
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January 18 2012 21:41 GMT
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Kiri was just temp banned for 2 days by Chill.

That account was created on 2010-11-14 03:34:09 and had 49 posts.

Reason: God you have so many bad posts and warnings and then you make this new all-caps post. Just stop for a second and think about what you're writing before you post it.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 18 2012 23:11 GMT
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Nawe was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-03-31 01:26:19 and had 202 posts.

Reason:
On January 19 2012 04:03 Nawe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 22:58 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 22:06 Skwid1g wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:02 Squeegy wrote:
Nawe:

1. Nope. Results disagree. There are probably more WC3 foreigners though but that is just because there actually were more players.

2. But I did follow the scene.

3. By competetive I mean the talent pool. That is Grubby and Moon were so dominating because there weren't that many players of high enough talent.

Fams:

1. Actually, I mentioned them just once. I don't see your point though. Stephano and Naniwa are quite a bit better than Tod, Grubby or Moon. We were talking about WC3 foreigners results. If you wish to use the former, BW foreigner's will outshine them quite clearly.

2. I am not sure what your point is with this either. I don't think anyone of them would make a big difference in the Korean SC2 scene. There are so many known and unknown BW Koreans that are as good or better.

3. I didn't say it wasn't competetive. That is of course rather subjective. I am saying it wasn't anywhere near as competetive as BW. Insulting or not, that is what I believe. You may find it ironic that I found your comment about Moon dominating SC2 quite insulting too. (I have not seen any BW professional ever mention Moon though. Well, Nada maybe, through acquantaince.)

4. I think that is quite the overstatement. Boxer is someone you could say that about. But that is because he is far more than just a gamer. Moon was of course very popular, succesful and idol to many. But I can comprehend that.


Even though I was never much of a WC3 fan... Talent means very little in the grand scheme of things. Moon practiced and he practiced hard. Harder than most BW A-teamers from everything I've read/heard. If he had the same dedication he had in WC3 during his rise to the top in BW I don't think it's ludicrous to say he would have been a top-tier BW player as well. The fact of the matter is that we'll never know - so it's kind of pointless to debate.


Talent means very much. That is why we have plenty of people who play SC2 all day long and they are not even close to be able to be top players. That is why Huk could never have had the success in BW he has had in SC2. But talent alone won't lead people very far. It is the combination of talent and practise that makes the difference. Also, I doubt Moon practised harder than most BW A-teamers. I've certainly never heard anything that would hint at that. In fact, I think it is quite difficult to actually physically be able to do it. We also will never know what (if anything) happened before the Big Bang. I don't think it is pointless to debate that, do you?

Nawe:

1. You can find the proof by going to liquipedia and simply going through the list of tournament results. Start counting the amount of BW players doing well and WC3 players doing well. Overall you will find them represented in quite equal amounts. My guess is that you will find some patches where WC3 players did clearly better and some where BW players did clearly better (particularly early on in SC2).

2. I don't think Stephano needed any Korean training to take out Tod or Grubby. Neither of which, I might add, have been very impressive. Even despite Korean training when it comes to Grubby. If I were you, I'd use players such as Stephano and Naniwa as the ones representing WC3 simply because they have indeed been very good in the foreigner scene. I actually believe even Grubby said in his recent interview that SC2 is more competetive than WC3 and that he will not be able to reproduce his success due to this.

3. Yes, I like to think that I own myself.


Then start showing proofs or stfu. You are complete idiot I could see that. Claiming stuff you cant prove and being so arogant makes me think that you are trolling us. Btw Grubby never had korean training, that was short, only Naniwa has. Rest was for a short time so you cant count it. I never saw bw eu pros did better then wc3 pros, in any patch. Yes sc2 is more competitive then wc3 because bw and wc3 scenes merged but that wasnt our topic. So please post smth else since you even donkt know how to argue, just jump from topic to topic and even talking to you is degradation for me

This post suggests you don't know how to argue. Please, cool off and hold your temper when you come back.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 18 2012 23:15 GMT
#22208
fdpdu93ntm was just banned by ToKoreaWithLove.

That account was created on 2012-01-17 03:57:42 and had 10 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#22209
X10A was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.

That account was created on 2011-01-02 12:09:26 and had 5535 posts.

Reason: By request.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 01:04 GMT
#22210
Alvalanker was just temp banned for 90 days by Antoine.

That account was created on 2011-07-23 09:10:05 and had 233 posts.

Reason: You've martyred before. Probably with any other mod this would be a permaban. Take 3 months and shape up.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 01:21 GMT
#22211
VEReHrT was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-12-31 13:12:48 and had 121 posts.

Reason: Well that's a good way to commit account suicide.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 02:07 GMT
#22212
ShakAttaK was just temp banned for 2 days by motbob.

That account was created on 2011-10-08 16:07:40 and had 118 posts.

Reason: Don't go into people's stream threads and harass them.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 02:09 GMT
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GoTuNk! was just temp banned for 2 days by motbob.

That account was created on 2006-09-21 17:04:22 and had 1169 posts.

Reason: Not acceptable. Meme + sexism = no.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 06:15 GMT
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PIRLIVE was just banned by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2012-01-19 14:56:13 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Advertising.
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TL.net130 Posts
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#22215
Eywa- was just temp banned for 1 week by Pholon.

That account was created on 2010-08-11 11:03:05 and had 952 posts.

Reason: Take your poop flinging somewhere else.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 11:56 GMT
#22216
spacemonkeyy was just temp banned for 1 week by Pholon.

That account was created on 2010-08-11 15:12:08 and had 290 posts.

Reason: Way to be a dick. Also my estimate is that one week should be ample time to educate yourself about the difference between your and you're.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#22217
Harrad was just temp banned for 2 days by Pholon.

That account was created on 2010-10-04 04:58:13 and had 389 posts.

Reason: Don't be a dick
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 12:18 GMT
#22218
Failsafe was just temp banned for 1 week by Plexa.

That account was created on 2006-07-18 09:38:30 and had 995 posts.

Reason: Either drunk, high or completely retarded.
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TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#22219
Failsafe was just temp banned for 30 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2006-07-18 09:38:30 and had 995 posts.

Reason:
On January 19 2012 21:07 Failsafe wrote:
plus i'm not banned yet

On January 19 2012 21:08 Failsafe wrote:
rofl just don't get gay on me with some cheesy ending

Upgraded
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Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net130 Posts
January 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#22220
inspectthedubs was just banned by Waxangel.

That account was created on 2012-01-19 21:12:11 and had 6 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.
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