EPTOrb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 80
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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Kich
United States339 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:19 Ferric wrote: Ever walked on a high school campus? Been to a live sporting event? At this point faggot (originally a bundle of sticks right?) just means idiot, not homosexual, at least from how I've seen it used (faggot southpark episode ftw). So we've got this word, being used a derogatory term for a group of people. That term is so widely used it now just describes anything people are distasteful of. Man it must be sweet to be a homosexual and not only have a word that's directly used to attack you (don't even try and say that people don't still use this as a slur), that same word is used to describe stupid people and things people don't like. Sweet. I mean maybe I'm alone here, but rampant insensitivity to the point of numbness isn't actually a way to handle shit like this. You could numb someone's face from slapping them for a long enough time, but hey, after awhile it stops hurting and it's just ok right? What the fuck? | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13537 Posts
"I made a regrettable remark towards the end of a game when I let my emotions get the best of me. I never intended any malice or harm with my words and I apologise for any offense I have caused." And then check into a token rehab centre for 10 days. Problem solved. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:21 densha wrote: It is a double standard to a point. I personally dislike the use of "gay", "homo", and "faggot" as insults and I cringe when they are used whether IRL or on the internet. Having said that, though, the N word has a very specific history in the US that forever ties it to slavery. Whether you think it's just another word or you're offended by it is most likely determined by whether you understand that historical reference. So while the sexual epithets are offensive and hurtful, they aren't tied directly to an era when an entire people were subjugated and abused by their fellow Americans. Are you kidding me?! Homosexuals are regularly abused and even murdered by their fellow Americans. Yes, "faggot" is tied to an era where homosexuals are subjugated and abused. | ||
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Heston
Canada18 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:22 Amlitzer wrote: Get over yourself, nigger is not even close to the most "taboo" words in existence. The fact that negroes routinely call each other by the term is proof alone of that fact. It's not like he said cunt or kike, now those terms would get you lynched to high heaven. I don't call any of my black friends the N word, and I also prefer it when they don't call me the same... | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:19 Ferric wrote: Ever walked on a high school campus? Been to a live sporting event? At this point faggot (originally a bundle of sticks right?) just means idiot, not homosexual, at least from how I've seen it used (faggot southpark episode ftw). So is that what the SC2 Community is aspiring to be? To be as mature and sophisticated and successful as ... high school students and beer-bellied sweaty old men that paint letters on their bodies? Dooooooooooohhhhhh  | ||
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johnny123
521 Posts
"cruncher is a waste of life" , "you are fucking horrible" to give some examples This is quite the witchhunt for what goes on for personal stream/ladder play. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:22 Amlitzer wrote: Get over yourself, nigger is not even close to the most "taboo" words in existence. The fact that negroes routinely call each other by the term is proof alone of that fact. It's not like he said cunt or kike, now those terms would get you lynched to high heaven. First of all, are you calling black people "negroes" to troll? Second of all, black people call each other "niggas" in a friendly way, NOT "niggers". They mean different things. | ||
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graan
Germany589 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:23 figq wrote: Meanwhile, Tastosis on GOM would often say that some teenage kids are being "raped" or "stomped". Fortunately, the Reddit Knights of Sacred English Language are not choosing to interpret those words literally yet. Words don't exist by themselves and don't have meaning by themselves. It depends on what one means with those words. The only reason for Orb to use "forbidden" words is simply that - that they are taboo and would shake you up. He doesn't care at all about the actual meaning of them, he doesn't give a shit about racism or homophobia, I'm sure he has friends of all colors and sexuality. What he cares about is to shake you up and throw your own taboo in your face. i don't think anyone really cares that he says nigger. It's the fact that he lied about and, pointed fingers at others, and handled the situation extremely poorly. Idra has said faggot dozens of times on stream. It's an offensive word but he doesn't make up some shitty excuse to his employer. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:24 RowdierBob wrote: Why didn't he just say sorry? "I made a regrettable remark towards the end of a game when I let my emotions get the best of me. I never intended any malice or harm with my words and I apologise for any offense I have caused." And then check into a token rehab centre for 10 days. Problem solved. All he had to do was say sorry, I am a goon and made a mistake... instead he denies it and blames it on other people. People don't like liars or bigots.... or bigot liars. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:18 Loxley wrote: Lol "this is the internet". Where we... Talk in English, play an american made game, with our american processors, our american mice, on an american software system (iOs/Win), whilst discussing american movies. You soak up more about the US on the web/tv than any other country. But still be total oblivious to the fact that calling someone the n-word doesn't have repercussions. I bet you know when to use it and when you don't. Wether you're from the internet or another country :p No, if you are from another country it's certainly not given that you know when or not to use it, especially considering it's very prominant use in your music and other media. It's quite easy to lump it into the same category as other insults. There's no swedish word that you can directly translate it to, the closest being the equivellent of the word negro. That's really beside the point since it has nothing to do with Orb and this situation. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
there is also a big difference between nigga and nigger. Orb is stupid for ever using that on a stream, with people he doesn't know watching and playing. | ||
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ectonym
United States147 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:23 WArped wrote: Orb really needs to calm the fuck down on ladder, unless your pro, your pretty pathetic if you rage this much over a loss ESPECIALLY if your streaming. Just realize your bad and shrug it off. Anger issues needs to be addressed but don't fire or blacklist him for this. He is a good caster, I don't wan't him to go down because of a few mistakes. I read that Orb was going to be a pro, but because he's color blind and can't see the nuke dot, he couldn't play equally. | ||
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Ghost.573
United States126 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:23 figq wrote: Meanwhile, Tastosis on GOM would often say that some teenage kids are being "raped" or "stomped". Fortunately, the Reddit Knights of Sacred English Language are not choosing to interpret those words literally yet. Words don't exist by themselves and don't have meaning by themselves. It depends on what one means with those words. The only reason for Orb to use "forbidden" words is simply that - that they are taboo and would shake you up. He doesn't care at all about the actual meaning of them, he doesn't give a shit about racism or homophobia, I'm sure he has friends of all colors and sexuality. What he cares about is to shake you up and throw your own taboo in your face. The huge difference is that he doesn't use them to mean what they mean. If you have ever played sports in your life you have heard the phrase "That team just got raped" and other phrases alike. I used it at 9 years old. If you haven't figured it out yet, thousands of words have many different meanings. I would never think twice about saying that X player just got raped by the other. All it means is he got outplayed by a big margin. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:16 Amlitzer wrote: After we are done lynching Orb, can we go after Tasteless? He is just as bad if not worse considering he does it while casting. People just brush it off because "hes Tasteless" and nothing more. If Tasteless were EVER, EVER do that we would never brush over it, but he would be given a second chance. He would be a given a second chance, it would be because he's earned it. Plain aanndd simple. He has been this good, for how ever many years, he deserves a chance for reprieve and a second chance. Because he's earned it. Never in a million years, has orb earned a chance to come back from dropping the word nigger that many times. Simply, doing that is not the consensus of a social norm, hence he should be punished for that. If it was him of course. (lol it was) | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
Which one? There were so many gay, black and female presidents I'm not sure which one you're referring to. | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:22 Amlitzer wrote: Get over yourself, nigger is not even close to the most "taboo" words in existence. The fact that negroes routinely call each other by the term is proof alone of that fact. It's not like he said cunt or kike, now those terms would get you lynched to high heaven. Minority groups often "own" the terms which are used against them. That doesn't make their use by others acceptable. A rather non-offensive example: Foreigners in Japan may be called "gaijin", which has somewhat of a derogatory connotation (the proper, polite word being "gaikokujin"). The fact that foreigners tend to "own" that word and call each other gaijin is, in fact, not a free pass for Japanese to use it in an offensive way. | ||
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SupplyBlockedTV
Belgium313 Posts
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:24 Klondikebar wrote: Are you implying that there has never been a homosexual american murderer that has murdered straight men?Are you kidding me?! Homosexuals are regularly abused and even murdered by their fellow Americans. Yes, "faggot" is tied to an era where homosexuals are subjugated and abused. | ||
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