EPTHe should (and probably will) be fired for lying to his boss about a serious issue. Red Card.
Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 64
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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations. | ||
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junmkk
United States19 Posts
He should (and probably will) be fired for lying to his boss about a serious issue. Red Card. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44276 Posts
We can make bets too on who's going to have the most hate threads by 2013, or who's going to have the most surprising scandal. "Sheth and White-Ra seen laughing at scared kitten!" On topic: At this point, I'll just accept whatever Scoots and Alex and the rest of EG go with. Orb has said stuff in the past. He hasn't said anything during his time on EG. He says stuff while he plays and streams. He doesn't say stuff while he casts. Both matter now that he's on EG. He needs to stay professional 24/7 (at least, he can't throw around slurs). Perhaps if anything goes down while he's on EG (and therefore directly stains the image of EG, their sponsors, etc.), then maybe he's off the team, but maybe for now he'll be closely watched. I don't know. It's not my decision to make. EDIT: If he gets caught lying, he's pretty much fucked. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:41 VanGarde wrote: The problem with this reasoning is again the complete lack of balance. This shit only happens when people use the words nigger and fag, and in there lies the bias. When IdrA calls someone a retard no one stands up and say that this is offensive to mentally challenged people. When someone calls someone a cunt or a pussy there is no one who starts a thread about how this disrespects all women. The reason people don't do that is that even people who think that we should censor society to get rid of "bad" words that could offend people realize that if you push that line of reasoning to its limits you can barely use words at all because there is always someone who will be offended by something. If we're really going to rank insulting words here then there's a huge difference between the N-word, F-word and retard. In the recent centuries mentally challenged people were not enslaved and seen as animals whose only purpose was to serve another race. Regarding the F-word, homosexuals still don't have any rights whatsoever in many parts of the world while a lot of effort is being put into making the world a better place for disabled people wether it be mentally or physically. In that context (the world we live in) my friend, those words are unacceptable and should not be uttered. When, where and if the people hearing care is a totally different thing altogether. | ||
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
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Oerbaa
Scotland184 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:17 darkcloud8282 wrote: If he has done it several times now, let's see some links to them? I just had to type "@LorangerChris tweeting nigga" and i found one.. and once again i don't actually give a fuck about anyone saying nigger, i just find it retarded people are acting out this way to Orb for saying something months before he joined EG and getting him in this much shit.. yeh his attitude when playing is shitty and he acts like a twat but its no reason for people to make as big of a shit storm as this.. | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:41 Xann wrote: i'm still waiting for orb's apology, the white man continues to spread their hatred and racism while black men such as myself are hurt despite the hundreds of years of brutality i've had to suffer. The white man should be ashamed how old are you? hundreds of years of brutality? And this persecution happened to you personally? What day and age are you living in? | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:44 Dental Floss wrote: You're right; there are degrees of social acceptance for all words and ideas. One way to measure how socially acceptable something sounds is to ask other people. Here in this thread we've discussed how socially acceptable Orb's comments were. After reading this thread do you feel that Orb's comments were socially acceptable? Does it look like this social group in general approves or disapproves? You are assuming that I agree in the first place that language should be censored based on who gets "offended" and not. I don't, personally I think that the principles of free speech should filter down all the way to the smallest of issues. Since as I just pointed out it is absolutely impossible to maintain any level of consistency when what words are allowed to be used are chosen in this manner I find that the much more enlightened principle is that it is up to each and every one of us to grow a thicker skin and deal with it. I am not saying people should not be offended, there are surely many words and statements that could be said that would make me offended, but I don't see how you can build a society where people can claim the right to impose not being offended. This is why I feel that these language discussions are completely ridiculous. But even if you sidestep that story, I still go back to my original point of double standard and complete inconsistency. | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:45 Joedaddy wrote: Good luck selling that to corporate America when you want a major sponsorship. lol this is a video game, not the NFL. Corporate America is hardly knocking down our door (and its not because some people ocassionaly use the N word). Dont take yourselves so seriously. | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: "Sheth and White-Ra seen laughing at scared kitten!" Whhhaaaaaaaaattttttttttt???!!!!!!!!! Get reddit on this ASAP!!! | ||
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:49 Rorschach wrote: how old are you? hundreds of years of brutality? And this persecution happened to you personally? What day and age are you living in? GTFO Lets get real here for a moment: If you submit two job applications with the same credentials but one says "Brad" and one says "Curtis" guess who is 30% more likely to get the job. There have been real studies about this I am serious. | ||
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eits
United States210 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:41 Xann wrote: i'm still waiting for orb's apology, the white man continues to spread their hatred and racism while black men such as myself are hurt despite the hundreds of years of brutality i've had to suffer. The white man should be ashamed get off of high horse please what have you actually endured? the daily, ritualistic, physical beatings your ancestors used to get? give me a break. My family is norwegian, I don't go around cry about what the "vikings" did to my ancestors and that it deeply affects me to this day. quit blaming everything "on the white man" and do something else about it besides blaming someone else | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
saying nigger is as racist as saying faggot is homophobic. it's not -- this is 2012. 20 fucking 12. yes, he needs to get his rage in check. no, you don't have ANY grounds to say he's a racist or shit like that. nobody fucking uses "nigger" with the intention of hating black people -- at least not that i know, and i know plenty of internet trolls. it's just an extremely profane word, hence it coming up when he's raging hard. god i cannot believe the witchhunts the sc2 community goes through, it's sooooooo annoying. just malicious kids wanting to see people get hurt. THAT is 1000x more detestable than raging and saying "nigger" on a private stream or unstreamed match. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:01 Mikey wrote: Hi, If you recall the old IdrA rage from early sc2 and when he started streaming he was quite similar to this (Maybe not as far as using the word 'nigger') but he did use faggot, and fuck you, and bitch, and a lot of other foul or derogatory terms. If they let Greg slide, they should give orb a chance as well. Just my opinion. Yeah Greg was a big fan of using "fag" in Brood War as well. I still remember watching his TSL 2 rep pack. JulyZerg did 1 hatch lurker build against him and he instantly left the game while saying "fag" when he saw the lurker in his base. Some people thought it was funny at the time, but now I realize that he could be hurting someone's feelings that take offense to that comment. On March 09 2012 10:51 eits wrote: get off of high horse please what have you actually endured? the daily, ritualistic, physical beatings your ancestors used to get? give me a break. My family is norwegian, I don't go around cry about what the "vikings" did to my ancestors and that it deeply affects me to this day. quit blaming everything "on the white man" and do something else about it besides blaming someone else You do know that was a troll post right?  | ||
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:50 Equity213 wrote: lol this is a video game, not the NFL. Corporate America is hardly knocking down our door (and its not because some people ocassionaly use the N word). Dont take yourselves so seriously. Ya chill out guys. It's not like we need corporate sponsorship to run everything. I think this is more than a game to EG and every other pro-team out there. It's more than a game to the services based around it as well. | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:41 Xann wrote: i'm still waiting for orb's apology, the white man continues to spread their hatred and racism while black men such as myself are hurt despite the hundreds of years of brutality i've had to suffer. The white man should be ashamed Just how many hundreds of years old are you bro? Sorry but I find it hard to have shame for something someone elses ancestors did 200 years ago. Congrats on being the first real racist in this thread though. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:49 Oerbaa wrote: I just had to type "@LorangerChris tweeting nigga" and i found one.. https://twitter.com/#!/LorangerChris/statuses/163132550880047104 and once again i don't actually give a fuck about anyone saying nigger, i just find it retarded people are acting out this way to Orb for saying something months before he joined EG and getting him in this much shit.. yeh his attitude when playing is shitty and he acts like a twat but its no reason for people to make as big of a shit storm as this.. Contexts are completely different. Huk saying it in a playful friendly manner vs. full on nerd rage BM in which he was obviously trying to insult the guy | ||
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IamMrWren
United States6 Posts
It takes less time to type gg than it does to type something you may regret. | ||
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JeanLuc
Canada377 Posts
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