Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 27

On March 09 2012 08:08 xrapture wrote:
so idra's allowed to say faggot dozens of times, but orb saying nigger is so much different?

Last time I checked both are derogatory terms used against a minority.

On March 09 2012 08:08 Mohdoo wrote:


Destiny is kind of a nobody in terms of his impact on the scene. He's a fringe entertainer who structures his casts to appeal to high school aged kids since they are a the types who can watch streams a lot. Its really well understood that who he is on his stream isn't an actual representation of the community.

EG, on the other hand, is basically THE e-sports organization out there, and casters are always the face of an organization, whether it be GSL, MLG, etc. Orb spewing racism is coming from a different person, from a different organization. Its totally different.

On March 09 2012 08:08 xrapture wrote:
so idra's allowed to say faggot dozens of times, but orb saying nigger is so much different?

Last time I checked both are derogatory terms used against a minority.

On March 09 2012 08:11 Dental Floss wrote:
Maybe you should take this reaction as a sign that calling someone a dumb nigger is not as normal as you think it is.

On March 09 2012 08:13 Blargh wrote:


Woah bro, you must venture onto the internet very often.

On March 09 2012 08:13 Blargh wrote:


Woah bro, you must venture onto the internet very often.

On March 09 2012 08:14 Silidons wrote:

yea. calling someone a "dumb nigger" is about as common a word as "Dude" on the internet...lol

On March 09 2012 08:08 xrapture wrote:
so idra's allowed to say faggot dozens of times, but orb saying nigger is so much different?

Last time I checked both are derogatory terms used against a minority.

On March 09 2012 08:15 ZeromuS wrote:


This is going beyond taking a firm stance on the issue of racism or homophobia. It is becoming incendiary reactions to out of context expressions of anger which are being perceived as racism. Racist or offensive words are not racism. While one perpetuates the other words are not indicative of individual beliefs.

Also to call for his termination from EG his new job wherein during his work he has never used a loaded word is moving beyond taking a stand against racism. Moving forward representing EG by nature of being under their employ (not on the team mind you, rather under employment) and no longer making offensive comments would mean he is fulfilling his role. Should he make comments like this in the future or act in a clear manner as to show he has serious personal convictions regarding people of a different nationality or ethnicity then it would make sense that we as a community could be concerned and inform his employer about these allegations. We don't need to run to the forums and Reddit creating a shitstorm for companies to navigate.

We are creating a situation wherein a company has to react in accordance with the rabid populous in order to maintain their viewership numbers or face a potential boycott considering the rabid nature of the Drama fueled SC community. Can we not be mature about the situation? Must we post an OP such as the one herein? Can we not allow the individuals involved to make their own statements?

Should we instead go out of our way to hunt through hours and hours of SC2 replays and vods on twitch to find the odd circumstance of some damning evidence? Does what he does on personal stream or unaired ladder game have any impact on his professional work? Do his past actions however misguided really represent EG in a negative light?

How many of you have done something wrong or something you regret? If none then sure go ahead and get mad at orb. But you know what while I've never said the N word in private or public I have said and done some things that I know and feel are wrong. Should that keep me from getting a job? Or trying to improve to get a job in the future?

Orb isn't trying to become a kindergarten teacher with a history of pedophilic behaviour. His actions in the past have no bearing on his ability to perform his job now or his actions from here on out. If I had the time to go back and dig up the skeletons in many players closets I'm sure I can find it. Does that mean these people should lose their positions now when they don't act this way while now being in the public spotlight? No.

Did Day [9]s old blog post about the masturbation story mean he is ostracized by the SC community? Is Destiny's defense of the N word in the past and continued use of retard and other words a reason for him to get kicked off QxG?

We all like to act like the koreans over react when they get offended by a probe rush in GSL but here we are over reacting to past actions not done on a public stage before Orb was given the professional position he has now. Have you ever seen orb use the N word in a malicious, directed, and racist manner? I haven't. I have seen him use the word when he is mad and like everyone who gets mad sometimes you stay dumb shit.

That's my 2 cents, I'm just getting tired of all this drama taking over the SC community there's so much more we could and should be putting our energy towards.

On March 09 2012 08:16 Dental Floss wrote:


*uses a knife to decapitate a serbian soldier*

BUT I SAW IT ON THE INTERNET LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES

On March 09 2012 08:16 Mordlikeafox wrote:
the best part of this whole thing is that so many people whho are offended by orb using the word nigger are now posting that same word all over teamliquid

this is amazing stuff.