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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
Rigou
Profile Joined March 2011
France19 Posts
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#561
I don't understand why people are saying it's just BM.
i don't even get how nigger is supposed to be an insult if you're not racist in the first place.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#562
On March 09 2012 08:18 greenknight999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:14 Dental Floss wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:13 Blargh wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:11 Dental Floss wrote:
Maybe you should take this reaction as a sign that calling someone a dumb nigger is not as normal as you think it is.


Woah bro, you must venture onto the internet very often.


Thinking that the Internet is a bastion of social normalcy is the single worst mistake any person can make.


Annoymonity actually encourages the expression of what people actually think.

As the old saying goes

Men speak the truth from behind masks.

I really don't care if he calls people a nigger and people trying to turn the usage of the word into a witch-hunt have a serious problem with society. Trying to control what other people think or say is despicable.


Funny, because the term "nigger" was derived from asserting a very specific control over black people. There's a reason it needs to never be said. You're right, trying to control people is despicable.
#2throwed
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#563
I am surprised by the amount of people that are defending this kind of behavior and/or thinks that we should not talk about it. Yes, let's call it "unnecessary drama", cover our eyes and ears and pretend that this community doesn't need to adress this subject. That will probably fix it.

TL, I am disappoint.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#564
On March 09 2012 08:18 Gheed wrote:
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On March 09 2012 08:16 TheResidentEvil wrote:
you cant really defend him. he is undefendable. This is against blizzarrd TOS also so if any of the people he played against just reported him, he would get suspended.


Maybe his actions are indefensible. Certainly I would not encourage people to call each other niggers. But I don't think he needs to be persecuted for doing what thousands of people do on the ladder every day.


Orb doesn't need to be persecuted. He is a person. The concept that different races of people need different labels needs to be persecuted. The idea that being gay is the same as being dumb needs to be persecuted. Sometimes people get caught in the cross-fire and thats too bad, but you can always keep yourself safe by simply not using those slurs.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
renlynn
Profile Joined May 2011
United States276 Posts
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#565
calling people faggots and niggers in random ladder rage is disappointing but not a big deal. but the way orb apparently handled things afterwards is really, really pathetic

just be honest and show a little contrition ffs it's not hard
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 23:21:29
March 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#566
i've noticed it's real easy come, easy go in SC2 these days. little high, little low seems to be the name of the game. anyway the wind blows, that's where the community seems to go. it's not like he killed a man, put a gun to his head, pulled the trigger now he's dead. orb's life has practically just begun, and now he's gone and thrown it all away.

at the end of the day: orb didn't mean to make us cry. but if he's not back here by this time tomorrow we'll have to try to carry on, carry on.

My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
March 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#567
On March 09 2012 08:20 MercilessMonkey wrote:
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On March 09 2012 08:19 CodECleaR wrote:
Lol just curious has any of this stuff been done after he was picked up by EG?


Nothing that has surfaced thus far, no. The replays are all from before he joined EG, but he did lie about it to EG after the whole thing came up.


Still though if the replays are from before, why are people saying he "cannot conduct himself in this fashion if he's with EG?" That line of argument is completely pointless and illogical because none of the racist comments have been said AFTER he was picked up by EG.
How do you beat a terran who's hardcore turtling off 3 base? Flip him on his back and walk away."
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#568
On March 09 2012 08:14 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:13 Blargh wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:11 Dental Floss wrote:
Maybe you should take this reaction as a sign that calling someone a dumb nigger is not as normal as you think it is.


Woah bro, you must venture onto the internet very often.


Thinking that the Internet is a bastion of social normalcy is the single worst mistake any person can make.


Hah. Too bad we're talking about things said on the internet.
Xadar
Profile Joined October 2010
497 Posts
March 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#569
On March 09 2012 07:36 MethodSC wrote:
1) It's one thing to rage, but to rage and use that word. HAH. fuck off. (honestly surprised he hasn't gotten banned from bnet between that and the account sharing)

Well its not that surprising he doenst get banned on bnet, they usually don't ban you for bm. The only time i was ever banned was after threatening to kill someones family after a stupid loss streak. they would have way too much to do if they banned stuff like that.
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
March 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#570
On March 09 2012 08:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
i've noticed it's real easy come, easy go in SC2 these days. little high, little low seems to be the name of the game. anyway the wind blows, that's where the community seems to go. it's not like he killed a man, put a gun to his head, pulled the trigger now he's dead. orb's life has practically just begun, and now he's gone and thrown it all away.

at the end of the day: orb didn't mean to make us cry. but if he's not back here by this time tomorrow we'll have to try to carry on, carry on.



cute
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 23:24:53
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#571
I do find it kinda funny that the guy hurling racial slurs is colourblind, but aside from that, I don't care. Sucks for his career, but he doesn't really look that poor so again I'm not exactly shedding a tear.

Life goes on, folks.

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[image loading]Just that he forgot he isn't really anonymous.
Felix_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany59 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#572
he aint the first one and he wont be the last one
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#573
Unacceptable for someone who wants to be a pillar in the community.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#574
Without taking a side, I'll just say that the double standards of this community make me gag.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#575
On March 09 2012 08:21 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:14 Dental Floss wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:13 Blargh wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:11 Dental Floss wrote:
Maybe you should take this reaction as a sign that calling someone a dumb nigger is not as normal as you think it is.


Woah bro, you must venture onto the internet very often.


Thinking that the Internet is a bastion of social normalcy is the single worst mistake any person can make.


Hah. Too bad we're talking about things said on the internet.


Sorry, but Orb's real job getting real money working for the real company EG is not a fake Internet thing.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#576
On March 09 2012 08:21 CodECleaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:20 MercilessMonkey wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:19 CodECleaR wrote:
Lol just curious has any of this stuff been done after he was picked up by EG?


Nothing that has surfaced thus far, no. The replays are all from before he joined EG, but he did lie about it to EG after the whole thing came up.


Still though if the replays are from before, why are people saying he "cannot conduct himself in this fashion if he's with EG?" That line of argument is completely pointless and illogical because none of the racist comments have been said AFTER he was picked up by EG.


Some people are more upset about how he handled the recent situation; denying it was him and lying to EG management about it. This did happen after he joined EG.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#577
It's not a "witchhunt..."

We should not accept this kind of language in our community. We shouldn't accept it anywhere. Doesn't matter what happens to this one dude in particular but it's important to speak up.

To everybody who thinks "it's just the internet nbd lolz:"

Grow the hell up.
shikata ga nai
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#578
I love how he tried to potshot destiny
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#579
On March 09 2012 08:21 CodECleaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:20 MercilessMonkey wrote:
On March 09 2012 08:19 CodECleaR wrote:
Lol just curious has any of this stuff been done after he was picked up by EG?


Nothing that has surfaced thus far, no. The replays are all from before he joined EG, but he did lie about it to EG after the whole thing came up.


Still though if the replays are from before, why are people saying he "cannot conduct himself in this fashion if he's with EG?" That line of argument is completely pointless and illogical because none of the racist comments have been said AFTER he was picked up by EG.


EG said that if he had a history of this, he was toast. he insisted he has no history of this. He was asked if he had history. He liked. That's basically where it ends.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
March 08 2012 23:23 GMT
#580
On March 09 2012 08:11 Roe wrote:
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On March 09 2012 08:09 Flonomenalz wrote:
This is absurdly blown out of proportion.

My god, nigger is used everywhere from rap songs to the local minimart. Take it easy. Orb fucked up for not apologizing straight away, but give the kid a break, he panicked and reacted badly.

Honestly, this community is so dramatic over every single thing. Jessica tweets something? omg 100 posts 20 page thread is needed. Do you guys have nothing better to discuss than attacking people relentlessly? What is destroying orb's reputation going to do for esports? Nothing at all.

Holy shit.

What is the word nigger being normalized going to do for esports?

It's not about nigger being normalized, that has nothing to do with anything, what are you talking about?

The dude said derogatory stuff in ladder games, therefore his reputation should be destroyed? I don't understand that at all. IdrA BMs people, Destiny says much worse stuff, who are all of you perfect kids that have never said anything derogatory? He was not representing EG at the time of these insults via stream or anything. Ladder games.

Yes, he should have apologized immediately, and maybe that will be the deciding factor in his punishment, but this reaction is so standard on TL now. Explode over the slightest bit of drama.
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