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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
January 28 2012 09:44 GMT
#1
Anyone have an idea why players have to flame after they won a game ?
Like you start a game with a nice gl hf and then have a really close game (few buildings for both etc) sometimes even mirror so it cant be the "race imba" thing

so after you lose you write GG WP and leaves the game and then immediatelly there comes a "fuck you noob bastard, you suck hardcore" and instant he is ignoring your msg so you cant respond.

since i am back from inactivity that happened in 3/5 games and it scares me that this is now a "normal" thing

any ideas why guys do such things ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
January 28 2012 09:46 GMT
#2
Because they're mad. Move on.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 28 2012 09:46 GMT
#3
Just ignore them. They're worthless pieces of trash who need to talk shit to others to validate their own existence. If they have you on ignore whilst talking shit they're obviously cowards.

You have the ignore button too. I suggest you use it.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Bambedibu
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany18 Posts
January 28 2012 09:47 GMT
#4
I didn't notice this at all... happens quite rarely to me.
But I'd say that there's like more of that kind of rage in Plat/Dia league than in any other.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 09:48:41
January 28 2012 09:47 GMT
#5
Because they feel like it. Bad sample size. Ignore it and move on.

There's really nothing deeper to it than that. If you want to waste some time on a saturday you can draw up a nice freudian explanation for why they're lashing out, but there's not really anything to it beyond they feel like it.
3 Hatch Before Cool
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
January 28 2012 09:52 GMT
#6
I've seen it a lot. Can't say I haven't done the same. Usually only against all'inners who achieve nothing but getting ladder points slightly faster but never improving as a player and..oh god, it's starting again, RUN , RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 28 2012 09:53 GMT
#7
Ask yourself if it is really important to you and worth your time to discuss the psychology of a few people you met on the ladder.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
January 28 2012 10:00 GMT
#8
Some people take losses wseriously, blaming themselves for their bad performances. However, some others blame the opponents for being 'out of their league'. Thus the flames. I like them flames :D
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
January 28 2012 10:03 GMT
#9
I am sure you are exagerating
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 10:06:42
January 28 2012 10:04 GMT
#10
People are immature assholes who think it's fun to tease people for losing against them. Just ignore them, there are too many trolls in this world for things to be taken seriously in these kind of situation. I guess what you really should be asking yourself is: "Am I actually being offended by this?". If yes... well then you should stop doing that since there's no point. If no... well then stop worrying about this and keep doing what you're doing.

Edit: The best thing is probably to mirror the damage, everything they're throwing at you will only affect themselves negatively if you can laugh their so-called "insults" off as a joke.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
January 28 2012 10:05 GMT
#11
They are little kids/teens and want to piss people off. It's as simple as that.
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
January 28 2012 10:05 GMT
#12
It happens often enough, and I always wonder if these people have issues or something.

The thing that gets me is how they put you on ignore, though. If you're gonna start shit, at least man up and take some? It's so cowardly!
Shooting
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
January 28 2012 10:07 GMT
#13
"i won some games and they got mad. why did they get mad?
PS i won some games"
-OP

people get mad when they lose. Starcraft takes a lot more work and understanding to be good at than most games, so the rage that happens when you've failed to understand enough or be good enough is more severe than easier games (read: any FPS or MOBA game or any other RTS game made in the last 3 years)
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 28 2012 10:08 GMT
#14
I will admit that I've sort-of done this myself maybe 2 or 3 times when my opponents have been really bm upon their leaving, but even then I'm not being a 12 year old, but rather try to be a little more constructively critical... but when the immature people lose, they just take that as insults as well. Some guys are just hard to talk to...
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 28 2012 10:11 GMT
#15
Its not that common, and people only do it because they feel the need to extend their E-Penis. Just ignore them, laugh it away and keep playing =)
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
January 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#16
Yeah I had that happened to me as well. Some people are just..... immature.

Go to ingame Menu and in battle net option click Only friends allowed to send me messages, or something like that. Solved the problem for me
www.KoshkaTV.com
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
January 28 2012 10:15 GMT
#17
On January 28 2012 19:07 Eknoid4 wrote:
"i won some games and they got mad. why did they get mad?
PS i won some games"
-OP

people get mad when they lose. Starcraft takes a lot more work and understanding to be good at than most games, so the rage that happens when you've failed to understand enough or be good enough is more severe than easier games (read: any FPS or MOBA game or any other RTS game made in the last 3 years)



didn't read the op carefully enough did you?

@op tbh, it must be your luck op, been playing since release and it rarely happens, the ones that rage at you when they lose though, they're still rampant on sc2
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 10:16:13
January 28 2012 10:15 GMT
#18
I've rarely flame, and I don't ever after winning, but if I really had to flame after winning, it would probably be because of Roach spam, the bane of Protoss.
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 10:20:09
January 28 2012 10:16 GMT
#19
Because they don't know about the The Letting Off Steam Thread, here in TL. ^^

On a serious note, since you're just a 'name' in the other side of Bnet, they think that they are able to bash you for nothing to increase their small egos. Because the bigger internet ego you try to get (by treating miserably other people), the smaller the real life ego. They are usually young people with low self-esteem (some are just douches) that the only way they can feel a little better about themselves is in the internet, where they can avoid the consequences of being jerks.

edit- I feel sad about those kind of people but I always have hope that once they mature enough they figure out that they were indeed causing the opposite reaction they intended.

Advice: don't answer any provocations from those people. Ignore them and hit the "Find Match" button.
aka Wardo
Jurassic
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary79 Posts
January 28 2012 10:17 GMT
#20
On January 28 2012 19:07 Eknoid4 wrote:
"i won some games and they got mad. why did they get mad?
PS i won some games"
-OP

people get mad when they lose. Starcraft takes a lot more work and understanding to be good at than most games, so the rage that happens when you've failed to understand enough or be good enough is more severe than easier games (read: any FPS or MOBA game or any other RTS game made in the last 3 years)



You should read the OP again...
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 10:25:03
January 28 2012 10:23 GMT
#21
Actually please, make sure to report those BM people... If you do then I do, then someone else will as well, they will get their punishment eventually

gl hf and stay positive!

Edit: but if you like to avoid such messages altogether, just select the option in the ingame menu/battlenet that only friends can send you messages.
www.KoshkaTV.com
Roqshu
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany112 Posts
January 28 2012 10:24 GMT
#22
Flaming the opponent has a long history in online games. That isn't something new. It's funny and if you can't handle it, you should maybe man the f*ck up. :-)
And honestly, the SC2 community ist EXTREMLY mannered compared to other games and even SC1 back in the days, just because of the battle.net 2.0 and the fear that your account could be banned.
You may call it immature, but well....you are playing a GAME. So what do you expect?
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
January 28 2012 10:30 GMT
#23
haters gonna hate.

move on and keeping winning. don't get affected by that shit.
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
Bart331
Profile Joined July 2010
59 Posts
January 28 2012 10:32 GMT
#24
I always message people who are Bm to me Ingame afterwards "gg thx 4 points" which gives often some nice nerd rage.
InSSerenity
Profile Joined July 2011
117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 10:48:55
January 28 2012 10:39 GMT
#25
Edit: Miss read OP
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 28 2012 10:42 GMT
#26
On January 28 2012 18:53 Talin wrote:
Ask yourself if it is really important to you and worth your time to discuss the psychology of a few people you met on the ladder.


My favorite quote on the forums since I've joined.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Consummate
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia191 Posts
January 28 2012 10:43 GMT
#27
Flaming for any reason IMO is fine to do, but when you block someone and then start talking shit? You're pathetic.

That is the lamest possible thing to do, and I honestly wish it were bannable to talk shit while you have them blocked.
lol
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
January 28 2012 10:45 GMT
#28
People react emotionally to losses, and sometimes they flame to vent their frustration. It's not really personal, so just move on.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
January 28 2012 10:49 GMT
#29
On January 28 2012 19:45 Stiluz wrote:
People react emotionally to losses, and sometimes they flame to vent their frustration. It's not really personal, so just move on.

Read the effing OP ... guys like you are worse than ppl who flame even if they won.
@OP, ever played a MOBA? there it is pretty common to herpderp around when you won. Guess some people need it to prove that they finally did something right
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Iatrik
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:06:39
January 28 2012 10:56 GMT
#30
Just to be clear.
You mean: you lose and still get flamed?

I think , there are a lot of different possible reasons:

- you tried to cheese him (at least in his eyes) and he feels disrespected.
- you tried to use a 'stupid' strategy (at least in his eyes), but he still struggles a lot before winning.
- you played very unexpected (out of the box), so your opponent has to use his brain while playing <- happens to me a lot
- they just think that your race is imbalanced and basicly want to express, that they would've won even harder without this imbalance.

Win is win. Lose is lose. Be nice to people.
Don't blame the game, your opponent, the balance etc..
Blame yourself.

If you lose, you're responsible.
If you win, you're responsible.

This is what makes winning such a good feeling
Feed me more
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
January 28 2012 11:01 GMT
#31
On January 28 2012 19:23 KoshkaTV wrote:
Actually please, make sure to report those BM people... If you do then I do, then someone else will as well, they will get their punishment eventually

gl hf and stay positive!

Edit: but if you like to avoid such messages altogether, just select the option in the ingame menu/battlenet that only friends can send you messages.



This has got to be the dumbest logic, imagine the starcraft 2 scene if everyone bad mannered was removed. There would be like 3 stoned guys in bronze, feeling angry and lashing out is a fairly natural reaction. You need to grow up just as much as they do if you feel alarmed enough to report them so they get dealt with.

To OP if you are genuinely concerned about why some individuals feel the need to belitte/mock/shit talk you, understand that some people might have been raised differently. You may have had an exceptional surrounding that taught you to treat everyone with respect but that's not the norm and it certainly wasn't for my case. I won't go out of my way to "BM" a person but I will rarely partake in the GG ritual because I simply do not understand it and I don't wanna take the effort to. Who the fuck cares if your opponent is offended that's his problem. If I earnestly believe it was a good game or its a practice partner that I do not want to offend I will throw it out there. However blindly saying GG after every game is a fucking feel good novelty.
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
Saiton
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:02:27
January 28 2012 11:01 GMT
#32
I'd much rather find out how my opponent found a flaw in my play rather than express my feelings about his mother, if he goes apeshit on the other hand i deem it as an even more satisfying victory
Top diamond terran streaming at http://www.twitch.tv/saitontv
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
January 28 2012 11:05 GMT
#33
I can give you a good reason. If a guy tries some shit cheese vs me and fails miserably, then refuses to leave and desperately tries to contniue playing 1 base vs 3 just to gg 5 mins later i never forget to thank him for that
The one || My stream http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/syriuszonito
HiSi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States68 Posts
January 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#34
I BM the shit out of people that fail all ins on me. I shouldn't do it but I hate wasting time to dumb builds.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
January 28 2012 11:10 GMT
#35
On January 28 2012 19:23 KoshkaTV wrote:
Actually please, make sure to report those BM people... If you do then I do, then someone else will as well, they will get their punishment eventually

gl hf and stay positive!


yea not true.
as someone who regularly flames during and after random team games at both opponents and team mates, i can tell you the whole reporting feature is broken. i've probably been reported upwards of 500 times and i've only ever gotten one warning. and that was for loading the chat with some really vile shit.

as to why? it gets a rise out of people. no fun if everyone is "serious mode". usually it's just trolling but there's always THAT ONE GUY that just has a stick up his ass and starts getting angry and shit. so the flaming.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
January 28 2012 11:10 GMT
#36
I just troll back.

If someone actually bms me and writes a paragraph I wait until they're done.

Example.

*After defending a 4gate all in to my 18CC

Opponent.

"LMAO, terran... what a fucking joke you are."

"JUST SCV REPAIR BUNKERS HER DER"

Me.

"Tell me, how do you really feel?"

ManBearPigNL
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands64 Posts
January 28 2012 11:14 GMT
#37
This hasn't happened to me once, plat EU
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
January 28 2012 11:16 GMT
#38
To be honest, I hate it when the opponent is lagging like hell. Even though if I won the game I tell the laggers they should fix their connection before harassing other people with a bad atmosphere of the game..
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 28 2012 11:19 GMT
#39
if someone rages against me after i win or lose, i just calmly watch the replay afterwards and msg them why I think they fucked up or I got lucky or something. they cant argue with logic, and if they do you know they are idiots anyway.
Icarox
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden78 Posts
January 28 2012 11:21 GMT
#40
Put on so that you can only receive private messages from friends. In-game you can still GL HF and such, but private whispers will never come from random people.

I've had smack coming at me from various protoss where I exploit their lacking scouting, and I roach bust them. And also from terrans who get banelingbusted or get outmicroed by Mutalisks. It seems that the aggression is more prone to happen cross-race than mirror matchups.

And seriously, writing "<3" is the best thing ever.
Everybody needs love.
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
January 28 2012 11:21 GMT
#41
@TheDraken Well, if you are mean to me in game I will report you which will also auto ignore you. May be one day you will get punished. And I doubt 500 people reported you. If so you would be banned and not just warned. The problem most people do not report because they like you don't think it will help.
www.KoshkaTV.com
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
January 28 2012 11:25 GMT
#42
On January 28 2012 20:10 cydial wrote:
I just troll back.

If someone actually bms me and writes a paragraph I wait until they're done.

Example.

*After defending a 4gate all in to my 18CC

Opponent.

"LMAO, terran... what a fucking joke you are."

"JUST SCV REPAIR BUNKERS HER DER"

Me.

"Tell me, how do you really feel?"


WOW, I bet that shuts 'em right up, very witty.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 28 2012 11:30 GMT
#43
becouse they aren't manner, and that think that they are a god or something.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Bd.Snake
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia163 Posts
January 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#44
On January 28 2012 20:30 sabas123 wrote:
becouse they aren't manner, and that think that they are a god or something.

God hahahahahahaha
Well see the thing of it is you know theres alot of ugly people out there walking around but they dont know there ugly because nobody actually tells them
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
January 28 2012 11:33 GMT
#45
It's chemicals. Like when you see someone make a touchdown they WILL react. They will taunt. If they hadn't changed the NFL celebration rules they would love to either brag or ridicule their opponents.
It's our (mens) nature to show off when we're better. That's how the women would easier see who were better to 'mate' with.
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
zanmat0
Profile Joined December 2010
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:37:12
January 28 2012 11:35 GMT
#46
Some of you people have serious issues.

You got all-inned? Guess what? It's a legit strategy, stfu and try to learn from your losses.

The other guy is lagging? Guess what? Connections crap out from time to time, you think he's doing it on purpose or something?

Grow the fuck up.
ilikeLIONZ
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany427 Posts
January 28 2012 11:35 GMT
#47
they need to compensate for their tiny penises being incontinent, and/or overshadow their weak selfconfidence.

my opinion
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:44:47
January 28 2012 11:37 GMT
#48
On January 28 2012 20:01 Whomp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 19:23 KoshkaTV wrote:
Actually please, make sure to report those BM people... If you do then I do, then someone else will as well, they will get their punishment eventually

gl hf and stay positive!

Edit: but if you like to avoid such messages altogether, just select the option in the ingame menu/battlenet that only friends can send you messages.



This has got to be the dumbest logic, imagine the starcraft 2 scene if everyone bad mannered was removed. There would be like 3 stoned guys in bronze, feeling angry and lashing out is a fairly natural reaction. You need to grow up just as much as they do if you feel alarmed enough to report them so they get dealt with.

To OP if you are genuinely concerned about why some individuals feel the need to belitte/mock/shit talk you, understand that some people might have been raised differently. You may have had an exceptional surrounding that taught you to treat everyone with respect but that's not the norm and it certainly wasn't for my case. I won't go out of my way to "BM" a person but I will rarely partake in the GG ritual because I simply do not understand it and I don't wanna take the effort to. Who the fuck cares if your opponent is offended that's his problem. If I earnestly believe it was a good game or its a practice partner that I do not want to offend I will throw it out there. However blindly saying GG after every game is a fucking feel good novelty.

worth to watch for those guys who really think because someone flamed you, you should report him.
Steve explains it perfectly why you should just give a fuck about someone flaming you

www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:58:00
January 28 2012 11:37 GMT
#49
Because it's fun. And it's just ladder.

Lighten up bro, watch a couple of combat-ex vods and have a laugh.
+ Show Spoiler +
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
January 28 2012 11:40 GMT
#50
On January 28 2012 20:35 ilikeLIONZ wrote:
they need to compensate for their tiny penises being incontinent, and/or overshadow their weak selfconfidence.

my opinion


However, for someone like me (suffering from depression) I don't really care about those guys. And sometimes their flaming can actually be somewhat accurate, which will hurt alot more than it should.

Before suffering from depression I loved flaming. Sure, I'll admit I do a bit myself, but mostly taking it. I loved to see how people could get all pumped up and having to let out their steam with w/e is on their mind right now. 'Cuz mostly it would be "IMBA IMBA" or "FAGGOT", which I could deal with easilly. But atm when people say stuff like "Can't believe I'm losing to YOU! You handled X soooo poorly, noobnoob" I will actually think about it and often times they're right, which (when it's worst) can actually force me away from my computer in a super bad mood :'/. Please do not flame - you don't know the state of your opponent or w/e dmg you cause.
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
January 28 2012 11:44 GMT
#51
On January 28 2012 19:07 Eknoid4 wrote:
"i won some games and they got mad. why did they get mad?
PS i won some games"
-OP

people get mad when they lose. Starcraft takes a lot more work and understanding to be good at than most games, so the rage that happens when you've failed to understand enough or be good enough is more severe than easier games (read: any FPS or MOBA game or any other RTS game made in the last 3 years)

clearly you didnt quite read the OP well enough
HiSi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States68 Posts
January 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#52

Before suffering from depression I loved flaming. Sure, I'll admit I do a bit myself, but mostly taking it. I loved to see how people could get all pumped up and having to let out their steam with w/e is on their mind right now. 'Cuz mostly it would be "IMBA IMBA" or "FAGGOT", which I could deal with easilly. But atm when people say stuff like "Can't believe I'm losing to YOU! You handled X soooo poorly, noobnoob" I will actually think about it and often times they're right, which (when it's worst) can actually force me away from my computer in a super bad mood :'/. Please do not flame - you don't know the state of your opponent or w/e dmg you cause.


I am pretty sure on a consistent basis we all handle xyz pretty poorly. Flaming is not going to stop, I think you should just not take it personal, and keep grinding that ladder.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
January 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#53
Just don't allow messages from people who are not friends.
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Murdaa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States32 Posts
January 28 2012 11:50 GMT
#54
I welcome it! I find it utterly hilarious
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 12:02:06
January 28 2012 11:56 GMT
#55
There's lots of reasons to be mad at someone even though you win.

I play zerg and 15 hatch every time vs terran. I can't tell you how many terrans have cried about some sort of imbalance after their proxy 2rax bunker rush is barely held off by me. I think it's fair to say that at my level (gold league) this sort of bunker rush is much harder to hold off than to execute.

So to make a long story short, if some terran cries about how his cheese didn't work... you better believe I'm gonna flame him.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 11:57:59
January 28 2012 11:57 GMT
#56
And the 10293431th "mommy-the-other-kids-are-mean-to-me-on-ladder" thread has been created, to discover the psychological and sociological applications of bad manners on the internet
duh, flame back if u feel like, ignore it if u dont, laugh at it, whatever, just stop making these threads, seriously
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
January 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#57
Because puberty is a stage of temporary insanity in life.
Because monkeys have apparently learned how to type and beat you at SC2.

It happened to me once and those are the only 2 plausable explanations I could come up with.
Dance like a butterfly, sting like an Intercontinental Ballistic Nuclear Missle.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 28 2012 12:15 GMT
#58
playing starcarft 2 at the steroid testing lab during your break, rage-punched a bunch of syringes then subsequently started roid-raging in chat. that's one reason.

a more common one is that it's just an internet game.
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Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
January 28 2012 12:17 GMT
#59
On January 28 2012 21:15 Vei wrote:
playing starcarft 2 at the steroid testing lab during your break, rage-punched a bunch of syringes then subsequently started roid-raging in chat. that's one reason.

a more common one is that it's just an internet game.

Hahaha, you'd think after a while, I'd move the syringes out of rage-punching range.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
January 28 2012 12:19 GMT
#60
Well if I get a "you suck" or any similar BM when I lost I just agree, that really confuses them. It's not that I really care about being good or not, the biggest reason for me to strive for masters is being able to track my stats.

Half related to this is that the people who have BM:ed me the last couple of days (playing teamgames) are usually the worst players with no apparent insight in the game at all. Being told that my strat sucks by a high master is an advice, from a low plat player it's amusing BM.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 28 2012 12:20 GMT
#61
Well I can understand the feeling if the game was extremely frustrating and involved some annoying cheeses or all-ins.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 28 2012 12:22 GMT
#62
I just send out Cruncher smiles. Once at the end of a game when I know it's over. Semi-offensive gg, but really it's just a smile.
Hey! How you doin'?
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
January 28 2012 12:24 GMT
#63
Same with the BW and CoH. YOU GUYS JUST DONT GET IT!

If they flame you when you lose, they did this to feel they are "better", "smarter" - to show you how infinitely inferior you are.
If they flame you when you win, they did this becouse you prove them they are not that smart as they pretend to be
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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
January 28 2012 12:25 GMT
#64
Never has happened to me. You're just very unlucky to face people who act so poorly.
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
January 28 2012 12:36 GMT
#65
because of serious mental issues.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
January 28 2012 12:43 GMT
#66
I've done it, the player decided to fly his buildings away and decided to not quit. Not flaming really, just taunts, and stuff like "why do you want to do this loser" etc. In fact that is the only time I flame,when I lose, I just want to get the hell out and watch teh replay and move on to the next game.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
January 28 2012 12:53 GMT
#67
If you do a lot of all-ins especially as Terran its funny but people are as likely (more likely?) to flame you when they hold it off as when they die to it. Its very strange to me. However, I very rarely get flamed by a winner of a "normal" game. Also:

short games=lots of rage (because of aforementioned allins that people are illogically prejudiced against)
medium games=little rage
very long games=TONS of rage but only on loss (because you had so much invested in the game it REALLY sucks to lose it, this is the only time I feel even a little raged)
Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
January 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#68
There really are no legit reasons. they're just dickheads.
♥
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
January 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#69
On January 28 2012 18:53 Talin wrote:
Ask yourself if it is really important to you and worth your time to discuss the psychology of a few people you met on the ladder.


QFT thread is over.
Melter
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Bulgaria67 Posts
January 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#70
If you give the attention to these people who want it, it won't stop. Keep that in mind, just ignore and move on.
NoctemSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States771 Posts
January 28 2012 13:03 GMT
#71
It's pretty simple.
While I can't read the minds of every player it's safe to assume they're just mad that they lost.
Everyone handles a loss in their own way, flaming is a way to vent that frustration I guess.
This is what seperates champions from the mediocre.
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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
January 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#72
i had a guy marine scv me. it pissed me off. i got something along the lines of l2p stupid noob scrub Nigger or something.

i challenged him to a rematch he refused. 3 games later i end up with the same dude. so naturally i rape his cheesy bullshit, and he flames again about how i should l2p and stop roach rushing.

moral of the story? people who rage will flame you whether you win or lose because it makes them feel better about how bad they are. if it gets to you, you shouldn't be playing online games. stop being so Damn sensitive. if i guy you will never see makes you feel bad about losing a game, first go hug a puppy then uninstall.

really this doesn't even deserve discussion. its not achieving anything except killing your ego and boosting theirs.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
January 28 2012 13:12 GMT
#73
On January 28 2012 22:03 NoctemSC wrote:
It's pretty simple.
While I can't read the minds of every player it's safe to assume they're just mad that they lost.
Everyone handles a loss in their own way, flaming is a way to vent that frustration I guess.
This is what seperates champions from the mediocre.


for the 3rd time Im this thread (even though this thread is pointless anyway) its about people flaming you after they beat you. people really should read before they post
6 poll is a good skill toi have
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 28 2012 13:14 GMT
#74
Because they want to express their love.
Let them know how much you love them back. Ask for their address and once they give it to you, send them a bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates shaped in a heart. Invite them on dinner to a French resturant and get to know each other. Once you get to know each other, you can move onto the next step and try to kiss. If he is not ready, he is not ready and you should wait until the second, third and even fourth date until you try to kiss. After seeing each other a few more times, maybe you guys can move onto the next level and try to make some true love. I advise that you should always make sure that your partner is fine with having sex, as are you. Once then, we can then decide which house we would like to move in and get married. Ask him if he would like to move in with you. If not, ask the vice versa. If he says no to both, then you will just have to move on and see other fish in the sea, as this one is still making it's journey through the romantic life. If he says yes to one of them, then congratulations. You are in love forever and you can get married. I recommend getting a wedding in June, since June is the symbol of love and affection. This just adds depth and meaning to the date you are married. Once you are married then you must split the bills and maybe even have kids. I advise against getting a dog until you have kids, as taking care of a dog will be hard since you will both be at work, maintaining different incomes.
Once you are all set with kids, then get them a nice college fund so they can meet some more BM people on starcraft and get married to THEM!
I hope this post helped you.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 28 2012 13:16 GMT
#75
3/5 is really bad, generally i have 2 nice and 1 flamer persons out of 10. The rest barely says more then glhf. It seems a few think that glhf somehow triggers flamers, especially the gg at the end seems to taunt those people. Like many mentioned they never think it was a good game, either they crushed you or you did some cheese that doesn't count.
Just move on and stay true to your standards.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 14:14:31
January 28 2012 14:10 GMT
#76
problem with "ignore them too" is the 1 message you get always after the game without chance to block
and normaly i dont thought they do cause i understand when they LOSE but ... they WON and i said gg ...

things like this removes the fun to play this game alot ...
i really sometimes think i have to change my gamestyle just to not get flamed

and also there is no chance to say anything for me since they only flames AFTER game and ignore me instant before i said more then "gg wp" thats frustrates
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Arvd
Profile Joined September 2011
England54 Posts
January 28 2012 14:13 GMT
#77
Well this has never happened to me but I imagine you should just ignore it and move on... I think you have just met a bad group of people :S however you should probably wait a min before you hit that button because it may be awkward to play them again :D
"The better you get the more you realize you are really bad."
Luppy1
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore177 Posts
January 28 2012 14:13 GMT
#78
Personally, I've never experienced it before. Maybe it's to do with how you won the game?
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
January 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#79
It's an 11+ game or something like that, get over it...
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 14:15:46
January 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#80
On January 28 2012 23:13 Luppy1 wrote:
Personally, I've never experienced it before. Maybe it's to do with how you won the game?


jaeh but i lost the game

mainly i make this thread to understand if its my gamestyle or if more people get flamed like that
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
January 28 2012 14:25 GMT
#81
I actually do this quite often.
LOL

I think it's the reverse of being a sore loser...
I would never BM when I lose, because it's usually my fault somehow.

However when I beat someone who was just a cheesy ass player, he's getting a BM.
Because he just wasted my time, and will probably go on to waste other people's time.
moo...for DRG
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
January 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#82
On January 28 2012 23:25 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually do this quite often.
LOL

I think it's the reverse of being a sore loser...
I would never BM when I lose, because it's usually my fault somehow.

However when I beat someone who was just a cheesy ass player, he's getting a BM.
Because he just wasted my time, and will probably go on to waste other people's time.


I do that too sometimes. Got cannon rushed yesterday, and the guy kept typig EZ EZ EZ EZ

I won the game in the end and then I typed back EZ PZ DONT CHEESE ME

Thanks artosis :D
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kindle139
Profile Joined September 2010
United States128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:39:57
January 28 2012 16:39 GMT
#83
my standard response to loss rage is: thanks for the ladder points, loser! then immediate block followed by "blocked"

edit: also, i'm laughing my ass off the whole time
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 28 2012 16:43 GMT
#84
I don't know why people do it, especially after they won... All I know is that I welcome a rematch anytime, and usually I destroy the person if we do rematch, so then I just humbly offensively GG.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 28 2012 16:44 GMT
#85
On January 29 2012 01:25 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 23:25 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually do this quite often.
LOL

I think it's the reverse of being a sore loser...
I would never BM when I lose, because it's usually my fault somehow.

However when I beat someone who was just a cheesy ass player, he's getting a BM.
Because he just wasted my time, and will probably go on to waste other people's time.


I do that too sometimes. Got cannon rushed yesterday, and the guy kept typig EZ EZ EZ EZ

I won the game in the end and then I typed back EZ PZ DONT CHEESE ME

Thanks artosis :D

That's not really the same thing. Your opponent was taunting you while the person you quoted says he bm's anyone that is "just a cheesy ass player" meaning anyone that doesn't play according to his standards of "proper game play" (paraphrasing).
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 28 2012 16:45 GMT
#86
On January 28 2012 18:53 Talin wrote:
Ask yourself if it is really important to you and worth your time to discuss the psychology of a few people you met on the ladder.


And then OP your answer should be NO! So in other words stop wasting time on them and just ignore them ingame if they keep chatting or ignore afterwards if they like to talk shit afterwards.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
January 28 2012 16:46 GMT
#87
Enable that blizz feature where people can't message you unless they are on your friends list.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 28 2012 16:46 GMT
#88
just use ignore dude, the internet would be a troll free place if people had the willpower to keep their mouths shut and not respond to these retards.

u cant be flamed or trolled if u dont reply, imagine trying to rage at somewhere who doesnt respond? it doesnt work, they feed off your response and that compels them to continue.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
January 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#89
Options -> Battle.net -> Only allow friends to send me chat messages.
It has made my laddering time SO much more enjoyable.

And for extreme measures, hitting F11 to mute someone while in-game -- delightful.

Otherwise, yes, the amount of "offensive gg"-style BM has been on the rise recently. Not sure exactly why.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
January 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#90
Some people just like being rude. I've had a couple of recent games where I've gotten "leave fucking noob" or an offensive gg as I'm about to lose. It's not like I stay unreasonably long, try to hide buildings or anything. My childish response to this is to draw out the game as long as possible.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 28 2012 16:52 GMT
#91
On January 29 2012 01:48 nihlon wrote:
Some people just like being rude. I've had a couple of recent games where I've gotten "leave fucking noob" or an offensive gg as I'm about to lose. It's not like I stay unreasonably long, try to hide buildings or anything. My childish response to this is to draw out the game as long as possible.


Understandable... But I usually leave when I know my time is up. In tournaments I try to stay and figure something out.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Avril_Lavigne
Profile Joined April 2010
United States446 Posts
January 28 2012 16:55 GMT
#92
blizzard should make it so that if you ignore a player, you also can't send messages to that player. It's retarded that you can hide behind your block list and still talk shit to other person.
Roblin
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden948 Posts
January 28 2012 16:55 GMT
#93
this have happened to me twice in my starcraft career, and I have played since beta.

ignore them and move on.
I'm better today than I was yesterday!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 28 2012 17:01 GMT
#94
They won because they outplayed you.
They're mad because you utilized a strategy that they particularly view as dirty or bullshit.

It's just skewed thinking.
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envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
January 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#95
Sometimes people feel pumped up after a win and do stupid things like message you to rub it in your face. A rule that I follow is if they have you on ignore then do the same to them and everything is equal. They could just be super psyched about winning and it boils over or they are a-holes.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:17:49
January 28 2012 17:16 GMT
#96
To give a proper answer to the question.

I see mainly two reasons for this: They suffer from inferiority complexes or narcissism; it can be either or both, but in majority of cases inferiority complex is an essential part of the reason.

The person acts that way based on which reason it is.

A person with inferiority complexes has got a need to lessen you, as to feel better about himself, despite winning he can still have the feeling of being inferior, which shows itself clearly in the case that the majority of people who BM you after they win will have used a strategy that is commonly thought of as particularly skilless or at the very least less skillful, like cannon rushing or 7 rax all ining.

In which case they very well can be worse than you despite winning, but whetever they realisticly won despite being better or worse is irrelevant, as it only matters what they see. And even if they played an incredible game and by all means was the better player, they could still feel inferior, and so got a need they don't manage to control to insult and belittle you so they can feel less like "worthless shit" so to speak.


A person suffering narcissism however insults you for the opposite reason, he insults you because he believes everyone else is worthless and he needs people to recognize that he is superior and thus will do what he can to explain to you how your life is shit and his is the best.

In the case of having both, the person believes himself to be superior, but sub-conciously still in his own eyes disappoint to what he "should" perform. Which can very well be the case in a close game, and thus since the game itself didn't "properly prove" how "much better" he is, he needs to achieve that feeling by belittling you in an attempt to make you realize his superiority.

So for short, inferiority complex forces afflicted people to belittle you since they feel worthless and needs to feel less worthless (this can all be sub-conciously).

People suffering narcissism need to belittle you to reassure themselves you know how worthless you are (or rather how worthless they believe you are), and in turn feel even more superior.
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
January 28 2012 17:20 GMT
#97
On January 29 2012 02:16 NTTemplar wrote:
To give a proper answer to the question.

I see mainly two reasons for this: They suffer from inferiority complexes or narcissism; it can be either or both, but in majority of cases inferiority complex is an essential part of the reason.

The person acts that way based on which reason it is.

A person with inferiority complexes has got a need to lessen you, as to feel better about himself, despite winning he can still have the feeling of being inferior, which shows itself clearly in the case that the majority of people who BM you after they win will have used a strategy that is commonly thought of as particularly skilless or at the very least less skillful, like cannon rushing or 7 rax all ining.

In which case they very well can be worse than you despite winning, but whetever they realisticly won despite being better or worse is irrelevant, as it only matters what they see. And even if they played an incredible game and by all means was the better player, they could still feel inferior, and so got a need they don't manage to control to insult and belittle you so they can feel less like "worthless shit" so to speak.


A person suffering narcissism however insults you for the opposite reason, he insults you because he believes everyone else is worthless and he needs people to recognize that he is superior and thus will do what he can to explain to you how your life is shit and his is the best.

In the case of having both, the person believes himself to be superior, but sub-conciously still in his own eyes disappoint to what he "should" perform. Which can very well be the case in a close game, and thus since the game itself didn't "properly prove" how "much better" he is, he needs to achieve that feeling by belittling you in an attempt to make you realize his superiority.

So for short, inferiority complex forces afflicted people to belittle you since they feel worthless and needs to feel less worthless (this can all be sub-conciously).

People suffering narcissism need to belittle you to reassure themselves you know how worthless you are (or rather how worthless they believe you are), and in turn feel even more superior.


I like to shit on people I don't respect, and I approve of this.

Ah though its not because I feel inferior after I win. its because i feel like I am 10 times better, and he isn't supposed to be equal to me in terms of ladder rankings, so obv. he need to be taught ^^.
Though I wouldn't do that to good mannered people....
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
January 28 2012 17:29 GMT
#98
This has never happened to me on the ladder.
And I've been playing since Beta.
Maybe its a lower league thing?
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
January 28 2012 17:33 GMT
#99
On January 29 2012 01:48 nihlon wrote:
Some people just like being rude. I've had a couple of recent games where I've gotten "leave fucking noob" or an offensive gg as I'm about to lose. It's not like I stay unreasonably long, try to hide buildings or anything. My childish response to this is to draw out the game as long as possible.

I won't go to the extent of floating buildings to the corners when someone says an offensive gg me but it definately makes me continue to fight and try to win by any means necessary which obviously draws out the game. I just want that feeling of someone offensively saying gg then me coming from behind to crush them
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
OGzan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States289 Posts
January 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#100
I got tired of the BM, so I just set my PM to friends only for a while. Quite simple really
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SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
January 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#101
On January 28 2012 18:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Just ignore them. They're worthless pieces of trash who need to talk shit to others to validate their own existence. If they have you on ignore whilst talking shit they're obviously cowards.

You have the ignore button too. I suggest you use it.

wow uh... no they're usually just mad...
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:54:06
January 28 2012 17:53 GMT
#102
On January 29 2012 02:49 SnowSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 18:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Just ignore them. They're worthless pieces of trash who need to talk shit to others to validate their own existence. If they have you on ignore whilst talking shit they're obviously cowards.

You have the ignore button too. I suggest you use it.

wow uh... no they're usually just mad...

Lol funny post

The guy you quote was all pissed off and calling them not worthy for just a few sentences on a computer game.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:55:50
January 28 2012 17:55 GMT
#103
Yeah i'll sometimes type 'ez' after winning a match where the opponent cheeses. If hes not gonna bother to put in the effort to actually do any thinking himself, rather than simply carrying out a set of memorized actions, then I'm damn well gonna let him know his lazy tricks were easy to deal with. I never message anyone after losing to them though, unless its to ask for tips.
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Darack
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
51 Posts
January 28 2012 17:56 GMT
#104
People flame because they get mad and unreasonable. Perfect example what you shouldn't do after losing a computer game...
I just move on and before anger comes to my mind the next game has already started.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2872 Posts
January 28 2012 18:00 GMT
#105
On January 28 2012 18:44 CoR wrote:
Anyone have an idea why players have to flame after they won a game ?
Like you start a game with a nice gl hf and then have a really close game (few buildings for both etc) sometimes even mirror so it cant be the "race imba" thing

so after you lose you write GG WP and leaves the game and then immediatelly there comes a "fuck you noob bastard, you suck hardcore" and instant he is ignoring your msg so you cant respond.

since i am back from inactivity that happened in 3/5 games and it scares me that this is now a "normal" thing

any ideas why guys do such things ?


Interesting post. I have accounts on both NA and EU and have experienced this almost exclusively on EU. EU also has tended to be a lot more all-in/cheesy in the past 6-8 months, for whatever reason (used to be the other way around in my experience). Maybe it's because i play more seriously/standard on NA and am high-ish masters whereas I try new builds on my EU account and have a lower MMR. Not sure.

Nevertheless, I've gotten quite a bit of flaming after I've lost, and after straight up standard games. Doesn't make any sense, people are just nerdy assholes. There's no reason to ever message someone if you won the game. There are reasons to be upset if you lost to something silly or extremely cheesy--and I can understand why people might want to message in this case but, still, messaging people after games in general is for idiots. It underscores a lack of self control and poor self confidence.
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