EPTThe only thing I can relate to is online behavior, in which both French (because, fuck you redcoats we have our own language) and Russians/east Europeans (because wtf is english) refuse to speak a language everybody understands, which I find simply impolite and annoying.
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
The only thing I can relate to is online behavior, in which both French (because, fuck you redcoats we have our own language) and Russians/east Europeans (because wtf is english) refuse to speak a language everybody understands, which I find simply impolite and annoying. | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:33 BlitzerSC wrote: " Our language " ? What's " your language " ? Switzerland doesn't have it's own language. Heh you prove his point Btw why are so many TL thread turning into US vs the rest? | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
In France, you go on strike first, then negotiate ! | ||
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All.In
United States214 Posts
Their obviously could be more to the story or something. Im sure some people will say thats what they get for the US sticking their nose in other countries etc etc. The way I look at it though is my dad was just providing for his family and was in the Navy as a means to do it. Most US military people you see over seas are not there because they want to be they are their because they were ordered to. The fact that they were jumped for being American makes me not like the country although that is a terrible generalization on my behalf probably. Secondly it goes into the the whole cowardice perception Americans have about France for the fact they jumped 7 men with 40. Oddly enough I have some French in me. It would come out to around 15% French in my blood. I do hate my self as well though. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
No i didn't ? Switzerland has 4 ( FOUR ) official languages. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:35 Euronyme wrote: Americans envy the French in every way possible, the English have them as rivals. There are also some irritation left as the French practically didn't fight in WW2, even though they practically caused it. Open a history book, maybe? | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
And you can't really use George Bush as an example of a politician bashing a country...This guy is famous for saying stupid shit. Apart from going into a war he shouldn't have, sitting idly by as the American econemy went down the toilet and not giving a fuck about global warming, it's basically his only other legacy. | ||
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:39 IntoTheheart wrote: They're just fun to bash due to their, "History," of retreating. IIRC they haven't given up or retreated nearly as much as we make them out to. Bashing us on WWII has always been pretty harsh. Sure we were "known" for being the "best" military after the WWI and we should have kicked the Nazis asses when they came in the Ardennes but many things went wrong: - We didn't really want to go to war after losing so much in the first WW - We didn't hear De Gaulle's appeal to increase the use of tanks instead of using infantry and old war tactics - We were arrogant and ignorant, thinking Hitler wouldn't go through the Ardennes Forest (thus, the ligne Maginot being useless) Then, well, we got owned and had to go through occupation thanks to those Vichy bastards, Petain being the overmind. Still, we helped our english allies get back safely to their island during the evacuation of Dunkirk, we had our own french resistance, sabotaging railroads, giving informations to GB, we tried to save jews (don't get me wrong, i'm not talking about the police who brought them into the Velodrome D'hiver and other concentration camps) But we'll always be known for that war for surrendering, prefering not losing as much as in the first world war. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2310 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:35 Euronyme wrote: There are also some irritation left as the French practically didn't fight in WW2, even though they practically caused it. one: this is a lie. French participated in this war and lost thousands of cassulties. They fucked up with the phoney war, but its too easy to judge them now, long after the fact. two: they started the war with Germans in defence of other people, not themselves. The same cannot be said about Americans. three: Swedes are not in possition to say something like this. | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
I know all about that, doesnt change my opinion one bit though. The germans practically love France even though France has declared war on them many times. You might like to bash the french but that doesnt make it common. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:47 Maxquatre wrote: Bashing us on WWII has always been pretty harsh. Sure we were "known" for being the "best" military after the WWI and we should have kicked the Nazis asses when they came in the Ardennes but many things went wrong: - We didn't really want to go to war after losing so much in the first WW - We didn't hear De Gaulle's appeal to increase the use of tanks instead of using infantry and old war tactics - We were arrogant and ignorant, thinking Hitler wouldn't go through the Ardennes Forest (thus, the ligne Maginot being useless) Then, well, we got owned and had to go through occupation thanks to those Vichy bastards, Petain being the overmind. Still, we helped our english allies get back safely to their island during the evacuation of Dunkirk, we had our own french resistance, sabotaging railroads, giving informations to GB, we tried to save jews (don't get me wrong, i'm not talking about the police who brought them into the Velodrome D'hiver and other concentration camps) But we'll always be known for that war for surrendering, prefering not losing as much as in the first world war. Yeeeah. I mean in the end, with the current obsession over WWII and Hitler etc, the countries might always be forced to remember (which isn't bad), but sometimes it feels like countries are being forced back to their roles several decades ago (which IS bad). | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
What do you disagree with? On January 21 2012 22:47 hitthat wrote: one: this is a lie. French participated in this war and lost thousands of cassulties. They fucked up with the phoney war, but its too easy to judge them now, long after the fact. two: they started the war with Germans in defence of other people, not themselves. The same cannot be said about Americans. three: Swedes are not in possition to say something like this. We were not declared war on, we were not counted on, we were not part of ww1, we wern't allied with anyone etc. Look, I'm not saying that it's my opinion, I'm just rationalizing. I'm neutral when it comes to France and French. Only been to Paris once, and the only thing I remember that was any particular was the architecture and that there was a lot of porn on the streets  | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:23 Maxquatre wrote: You do understand that, after the destruction brought by the Germans and its allies during WWI, we were quite right about asking for some kind of refund and trying to stop Germany from having an army, right? The war was only there because of Hitler, sure loads of veterans and germans hated the diktat, I'm pretty sure they didn't want 60 millions of people dying and their country destroyed for more than 50 years. This is false too. The Diktat was the very reason a second war started. I mean come on, we're both French, I'm sure you remember your high school history lessons. I sure do. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
French causing WW2 maybe? I mean, it's wrong on so many levels I feel someone is trying to tell me the earth was square. Sure, France lost, plainly and simply, the war. But how is that the cause of the war itself? What kind of odd twisted logic is this? Edit: I mean, shall I remind you that Swede was neutral during the conflict and collaborated with the Wehrmach in many occasions? | ||
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Detwiler
United States239 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
I miss it so damn much. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Everything is true except the fact that France caused WW2 WW2 started because Germany invaded Poland. edit 2: Well, it's also wrong that France didn't fight in WW2. They fought, obviously, but they got stomped really quickly | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:49 Kukaracha wrote: This is false too. The Diktat was the very reason a second war started. I mean come on, we're both French, I'm sure you remember your high school history lessons. I sure do. Losing 4.5% of your population, having more than 5 other % wounded and having your country ravaged. It was pretty normal we wanted some way to secure ourselves. Asking for no military, getting back Alsace-Lorraine, asking for huge amounts of money. That's what you do when you win, you want the opponent to not be able to strike back. I don't have to remember you who started this war. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:47 hitthat wrote: one: this is a lie. French participated in this war and lost thousands of cassulties. They fucked up with the phoney war, but its too easy to judge them now, long after the fact. two: they started the war with Germans in defence of other people, not themselves. The same cannot be said about Americans. three: Swedes are not in possition to say something like this. France had half the military losses (~200K) than the US during WW2, most of it over a couple of weeks during German's invasion. But people always forget stuff if Hollywood doesn't make a good action movie on the topic. It is even more "funny" for the Vietnam. Nobody gives a fuck about that war in France but military losses were higher than the US lol. | ||
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