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France Bashing - Page 4
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
lovely country, hate the people. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:22 Kipsate wrote: For some reason the stereotype here about France is lovely country, hate the people. " France is a nice country, the only problem is French live there. " ^^ | ||
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:20 SilentchiLL wrote: Well their treatment of the Germans after the first world war(which every country in europe started back then), especially in terms of reparations(going into German facilities and simply TAKING stuff, while shooting Germans who protested against that in some cases) basically guaranteed that there'll be another war together with the treaty of Versaille You do understand that, after the destruction brought by the Germans and its allies during WWI, we were quite right about asking for some kind of refund and trying to stop Germany from having an army, right? The war was only there because of Hitler, sure loads of veterans and germans hated the diktat, I'm pretty sure they didn't want 60 millions of people dying and their country destroyed for more than 50 years. | ||
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IveReturned
Turkey258 Posts
Is my education in english, or am I french? wtf do you expect ! soa doesnt have a meaning in my language. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
It's kinda like this on the internet too. I've often seen french people pretending they were always the best at anything (food, games, sports, etc). Even with my bad experiences with french people, I know I cant just generalize a country just because of these personal experiences. I'm sure a lot of french people are really nice but I just didn't happen to meet one yet. | ||
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Bazzyrick
United Kingdom361 Posts
The US making fun of France has always puzzled me. They surrendered to the Nazi's probably because the Nazi's were probably much too strong to fight head on, like they were for almost everywhere else, the difference is the "winning" countries didn't have the Nazi's on their borders. I'd rather they surrendered than take who knows how many casualties. Also iirc the French people fought back hard in the forms of resistances. Besides I'm sure the US has surrendered in wars before. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
Please, if we are to discuss something political in nature, let us first have an accurate view on politics, and a good wholesome knowledge of the countries you speak of. Your ethnocentricity is no better than that of an American's. | ||
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IveReturned
Turkey258 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:18 TanTzoR wrote: I'm French and I disagree, I think this sort of laws is bad for democracy and freedom of speech. So if I had a chance I would vote no. Though the Turkey's position is even worst, not recognizing the genocide. 1.5 people killed and the Turkey pretends nothing happened. For me that's even more scandalous than the French law. So you say 1.5 armenians killed ? what else do you know about this subject? what they are doing is they drill the idea but dont really explain. EDIT.. armenian historians refuse to collaborate with turkish. they keep insisting on genocide without documents. the documents are in the army archives but they refused to look at them. | ||
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PanzerKing
United States483 Posts
On the other hand, my father was treated very poorly by some of the Parisians when he was there for a weekend. In particular, I remember him telling me about the time he went to a restaurant in the second arrondissement with his girlfriend. The host took one look at them, with my father in his cowboy boots (he loves the fucking things, why I don't know) and his girlfriend with her thick new york accent, and he dumped the two of them at a corner table and never sent anyone to serve them. And my old man wasn't just being impatient - he's been in the restaurant business his entire life, grew up in Basel and trained at the Hotel Euler - so he knows what a reasonable wait for service is. But they completely ignored him until he pulled someone aside and politely asked, in french, for service. And that was just one incident - there was a dozen other times when people made comments or gave him looks because they took him for a yokel american tourist. So, on the whole, the "french bashing" thing is just a stupid and juvenile source of amusement by people who are too ignorant to come up with true wit. There's no real enmity behind it, unless you're talking about a few backwoods ignoramuses (ignoramii?) who have a natrual predilection for prejudice. That said, I do feel that there's some real enmity on the other side of the pond, at least in the more urban areas. I've only really been through the rural areas in France myself, and all my experiences were positive, but I've been told that there's real enmity towards Americans in Paris and other major cities. So take that for what it's worth. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:55 Sanix wrote: And the Italians are not?? There live so many Italians in Switzerland who doesn't know our language after 20 fucking years, because they seperate in groups with other Italians and refuse the integrate. And that's not the minority. It's a very Italian thing. " Our language " ? What's " your language " ? Switzerland doesn't have it's own language. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:29 Chargelot wrote: AMERICA IS NATIONALIST AND IMPERIALIST AND THEY HAVE SMALL PENISES AND THEYRE DIFFERENT THAN US AND AND AND THEY HURT MY FEELINGS. Please, if we are to discuss something political in nature, let us first have an accurate view on politics, and a good wholesome knowledge of the countries you speak of. Your ethnocentricity is no better than that of an American's. What are you talking about? | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Take for example arxiv.org. I don't know how many people here know this site, but it's basically a plattform to share your scientific research with people from all around the world. I am actively following all the uploads that are done in a certain area of mathematics called "algebraic geometry" and I noticed that there are two groups of people: 1. people from all over the world, uploading their papers (i.e. research articles) on english 2. people from france uploading them in french. | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
It's even called "Parisianisme" in France, they think they are better, the elite and everything outside Paris is Stone Age with people making fire with flint stones and people who wouldn't be able to do 1+1. You'll surely find many french people wanting to go to Paris because of its background but you will pretty much always hear them complain about its inhabitants. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:22 Macpo wrote: Well, I can tell you that many French wouldn't agree with this law. As to why would one agree with limitations of the freedom of speech (generally speaking, not in this case): because speech is sometimes a form of action, and certain actions cannot be accepted, because of their consequences. For instance, defending nazi opinion in France is forbidden, and I agree with that, because expressing nazi opinions is a way to encourage certain kind of behaviours which are in all regards and without any possible doubt dangerous, full of hatred and unacceptable. So I saw this thread about france bashing through stereotypes in the world... then I saw that you're french... and then I saw your sig Jesus Christ I fell of my chair XD | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
For england its because of the many wars over the centuries and the english never forget when they had a war with another nation. The US it could be because the french government and people were pretty hostile towards America for decades even though they were allies. Plus millions of people have only been to Paris and even french people say Parisians are...not very nice. | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
No, he's right, the fee asked to Germany by France, UK and USA after WW1 and the fact France invade the Rhur (it caused a very hard economic crisis, even before 1929) with murdrers and rapes was enough to give Germans an understandable wish of revenge and lead all Europe, slowly but surely into WW2. Btw, saying that French didn't fight is wrong, 400 000 soldiers died during the invasion in 1940) the fact France had 1 000 000 soldiers before the war, the fact they didn't help Poland during Blitzkrieg and the government was afraid to make war make many people think that French didn't fight. But it's not 100% true. There are many documentary about it, check it, it's very intersting. On topic : Personnaly i don't feel the bashing, there are always some people with clichés in there head (Americans are stupid, Germans are Nazi, Italian are lazy, french are arrogant, etc...) Hopefully, people who really know these countries and these inhabitants know that it's moslty a cliché than anything else. French bashing is rare and not really a big deal to me. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
IIRC they haven't given up or retreated nearly as much as we make them out to. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
Read page 1. And page 2. And some of pages 3 and 4. And I'm not referring only to anti-American sentiments. The Anti-French sentiments are largely opinion-based, using opinions based on random tidbits of information. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 22:37 secretary bird wrote: I still think bashing the French is a very english/american thing, some people in Europe are very americanized though. For england its because of the many wars over the centuries and the english never forget when they had a war with another nation. The US it could be because the french government and people were pretty hostile towards America for decades even though they were allies. Plus millions of people have only been to Paris and even french people say Parisians are...not very nice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French-German_enmity | ||
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