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Canada11381 Posts
On January 22 2012 07:11 critique wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 06:59 Falling wrote:On January 22 2012 06:39 semantics wrote:*snip for space. Apparently canadians don't understand that if you leave a country for so many years you're not exactly part of that country's culture still. Let alone live out the rest of your life die and be buried in America, you're American http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_NaismithPlace of death Lawrence, Kansas.It's interesting that candians take he being born in canada as him being canadian forever when the US is probably the only country that takes birth place into account for nationality, due to it's immigrant history. Yep. That's pretty much what my post was about. If you were born in Canada and left immediately thereafter, we will claim you. We are very possesive that way- unless you muck up your career and then we will disown you- we will give you Pamela Anderson for instance. What!?! Damnt it. We don't want pam anderson. Fine, how about this: we will take pam, but we also get Huk, once and for all. I would also be willing to negotiate a trade involving Steve Nash for the state of Minnesotta.
Ooh, those are tough trades. Reminds me of a Dave Chappelle sketch where the different ethnic groups are doing team trades. I think a large part of our possessiveness comess from the fact that the US is just such an overwhelmingly big market. So if you want to get big in most things (music, movies, sports) you've got to the US because that's where the money is.
Anytime an American team wins the Stanely Cup, you can be sure we're counting how many of our Canadian boys were there to win it. And it's the same with brain drain as it is talent drain. Not only do we feed into the American stream, we also consume a fair amount of the same stuff. In rental stores, Hollywood films are not placed in the American films section nor the foreign films, though tecnically they are both. And so even if they're not living in Canada, we don't exactly 'lose' them as we see them more often and paid better.
Our possessiveness is probably kinda silly, but there it is.
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I'll answer these.
Generally, the economy takes care of the debt. As long as we don't rack up too much more, we're still fine, especially since we own more than half of it.
Because we have more than a fair share of retarded fundamentalists. Most Americans aren't like that.
Because we have immigrants and a bad economy. That happens.
Because someone has to sell weapons. It's not Americans, it's capitalism. Not all buyers are terrorists. Many aren't.
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On January 22 2012 03:52 metbull wrote:Have you forgotten........ ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1ADGtyRw1vI/Rpjc_klRwJI/AAAAAAAAAes/rnyF8iSsLso/s400/McDonalds+Arches.png) and ![[image loading]](http://th668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/nestor9516/th_kfc-logo.jpg) and ![[image loading]](http://envirothink.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/walmart-logo.png) The world truly loves American culture. It can't be denied. Or they can't keep out American 'culture'.
Is this really culture?
It is weird to say that Americans dont have a culture, first thing that comes to mind is eating turkey on your holiday or saying the national anthum before you start school (not sure if this is dont everywhere in USA)
I do not see however, how companys have anything to do with a culture.
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This thread is silly and I'm surprised that it is still open. American culture is so indisputably prolific worldwide that I can't imagine how anyone can argue with a straight face that America has no culture.
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Canada880 Posts
On January 21 2012 16:38 Nothingtosay wrote:
We Created baseball and basketball which are truly multinational sports.
Thank you for upholding the stereo type of conceited. Canadians invented basketball. Thank you.
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On January 22 2012 08:09 CookieMaker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 16:38 Nothingtosay wrote:
We Created baseball and basketball which are truly multinational sports.
Thank you for upholding the stereo type of conceited. Canadians invented basketball. Thank you.
Thank you for being conceited, a canadian, born of 2 Scottish immigrants to canada, who was living in america for some time, who also spent the rest of his life and was buried in america invented basketball. Ofc this would require you to read more then the OP on the first page
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305114¤tpage=28#545
On another side note
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=297912
Brings up the thing about american influence, esp in entertainment.
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Canada11381 Posts
On January 22 2012 08:03 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 03:52 metbull wrote:Have you forgotten........ and and The world truly loves American culture. It can't be denied. Or they can't keep out American 'culture'. Is this really culture? It is weird to say that Americans dont have a culture, first thing that comes to mind is eating turkey on your holiday or saying the national anthum before you start school (not sure if this is dont everywhere in USA) I do not see however, how companys have anything to do with a culture.
I should think so. Part of culture is food and both McD and KFC were developed in America. It's going to look a lot different because a lot of American culture developed during the industrial revolution rather than pre-industrial, highly localized culture. So maybe industrial strength culture? But it's more varied than that- you'll get California culture, north-west, mid-west, Texan, the South variants on American culture.
American culture is both mass culture/ commericialized and also regional specific. But it won't be as localized as culture that developed starting as a little hamlet in England where people hardly traveled beyond there local cluster of villages because of transportation.
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Basketball was created in Canada, not in U.S. as well as Baseball, which was first mentioned in 14th century French manuscripts. Get your facts straight. Also, American football came from British Rugby.
Jazz is not American music. It is a mix of African and European music so in reality it would be a cultural heritage of Europe and Africa. Why are you completely forgetting First Nation? They are true Americans, not immigrants who came there to start a new life. Their customs and traditions are true for America.
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Although basketball was created IN America, it was created BY a CANADIAN.
Thought I might mention that.
hahaha, just something to add is all.
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This thread seems to feature quite a bit of Canadians trying to differentiate themselves from Americans however possible, even though the two cultures are very similar. My experiences with Canadians have also reflected this.
Would anyone else disagree about this? Serious question.
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On January 22 2012 08:14 ThatGuyDoMo wrote:
Although basketball was created IN America, it was created BY a CANADIAN.
Thought I might mention that.
hahaha, just something to add is all.
Well, if you're going to be like that, thanksgiving was created by English colonists long before USA was founded.
Thanksgiving would ironically also be the best example of American culture imo, if you don't count fastfood restaurants.
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On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:We fight with everyone over what the word "football means". In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about. Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.
Dont worry, ill explain what american football is here.
New English immigrants came to America and showed the second/third generation Americans what rugby was. First the Americans noticed that your not allowed to throw the ball forward, "this cant be right" they thought. That would make the game much harder, and a hard game isnt a fun game. So they changed the rule and made it so that you are allowed to throw the ball forward.
After this they noticed that this new game was actually pretty rough. "This cant be right" they thought. This would give injury's, and we dont want that. So they made prime evil gundam suits to protect themselves. Now they didnt have to worry about pain that much.
Lastly they forgot how the English named the game, remembering that there was another game in Europe, called football, they thought that should probably be the name of the game they learned. Somehow the Americans didnt consider that the name football could actually be a game played with the feet.
Now you know where American football comes from
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On January 22 2012 07:41 Falling wrote:
Ooh, those are tough trades. Reminds me of a Dave Chappelle sketch where the different ethnic groups are doing team trades. I think a large part of our possessiveness comess from the fact that the US is just such an overwhelmingly big market. So if you want to get big in most things (music, movies, sports) you've got to the US because that's where the money is.
Anytime an American team wins the Stanely Cup, you can be sure we're counting how many of our Canadian boys were there to win it. And it's the same with brain drain as it is talent drain. Not only do we feed into the American stream, we also consume a fair amount of the same stuff. In rental stores, Hollywood films are not placed in the American films section nor the foreign films, though tecnically they are both. And so even if they're not living in Canada, we don't exactly 'lose' them as we see them more often and paid better.
Our possessiveness is probably kinda silly, but there it is.
I'll take that as a yes on the Huk trade and a maybe on the Nash deal. 
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What's the difference between Americans and yogurt?
If you leave yogurt alone for 200 years, it will grow a culture.
in all seriousness, don't ban me, i was kidding
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On January 22 2012 08:22 emis wrote:
What's the difference between yoghurt and USA?
If left alone for 200 years, yoghurt grows a culture.
in all seriousness, don't ban me, i was kidding
You're a bit late, that one was made already.
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On January 22 2012 08:14 ThatGuyDoMo wrote:
Although basketball was created IN America, it was created BY a CANADIAN.
Thought I might mention that.
hahaha, just something to add is all.
Cool story why don't you look one page back or a few posts up =p
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305114¤tpage=28#545
On January 22 2012 08:14 LesPhoques wrote:
Basketball was created in Canada, not in U.S. as well as Baseball, which was first mentioned in 14th century French manuscripts. Get your facts straight. Also, American football came from British Rugby.
Jazz is not American music. It is a mix of African and European music so in reality it would be a cultural heritage of Europe and Africa. Why are you completely forgetting First Nation? They are true Americans, not immigrants who came there to start a new life. Their customs and traditions are true for America.
yes and if we trace everything back to everywhere aren't we just noting but cosmic dust in an infinite every expand universe nothing but a small dot on the edge of a spiraling galaxy. =p
Funny how far people will reach to say america is bad/nothing. I like to think it's cuz ppl had penis envy of america post wwii
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Actually I think the insult is that "Americans think they're the only ones with culture." Not the majority, of course, but historical evidence of American Culture being 'forced upon' other countries probably aggravates more than few souls. Also, there is the ignorance of a number of people who happen to be on American television quite often...
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On January 22 2012 08:03 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 03:52 metbull wrote:Have you forgotten........ and and The world truly loves American culture. It can't be denied. Or they can't keep out American 'culture'. Is this really culture? It is weird to say that Americans dont have a culture, first thing that comes to mind is eating turkey on your holiday or saying the national anthum before you start school (not sure if this is dont everywhere in USA) I do not see however, how companys have anything to do with a culture.
Yes in fact it is so much culture that you're blinded by it. Because you're blinded by it you cannot fully comprehend how rich our culture is and out of confusion believe we have no culture. Perfectly understandable though.
Music: Jazz + Rap + Hip Hop (though the latter two have been shit as of late)
Comedy: We own it.
Movies: You watch them because they're about us.
Sarcasm: We invented it.
Fast Food: We die for it.
Debt: We do debt so well it affects other countires and their economies.
World Police: Are you going to do it?
Computers as you know them: Yup we did that
Sports: World champions even though only US teams played
Melting pot of old and new cultures combined and reinvented over and over again. Spreading from Hawaii to NYC. All the fads and ideas the rest of the world wished they could come up with.
America Fuck Ya!
<3 all other countires though.
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America, is not troubled with NO culture, we have so many together that it can be hard to know what is shared between Americans. I'm not an expert on this, but Music, food, movies, books, etc are a lot of what define our culture. Living in a place like New York is truly an experience you probably don't see many other places.
There are people from every nation, and it can be overwhelming at times, seeing the large differences of life style, or even the similarities. America's culture is... weird, but we've got one for sure. :D
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