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MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
November 03 2013 10:05 GMT
#1461
On November 03 2013 15:38 krndandaman wrote:
TSM looking alot better now that their weakest position might be one of their best now.


One of their best? Their best by far, TSM now instantly has the best midlaner in NA.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 03 2013 10:20 GMT
#1462
Yup, although Xpecial/Turtle also have the potential to come out really big next season if they approach it the right way, which might make them a contender for "strongest position" on TSM aswell. I wouldn't say Bjergsen is by default that much better at mid than Xpecial/Turtle are at bot.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 03 2013 10:46 GMT
#1463
I don't like it, the "great" EU vs NA rivalry is meaningless if EU talent keep joining NA teams :/
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 11:05:31
November 03 2013 11:01 GMT
#1464
Btw Bjergsen seems to blend right in with the rest of TSM... 45k viewers right now on his stream

Edit: Like seriously I wonder how much money TSM makes on nights like these

[image loading]
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
November 03 2013 11:03 GMT
#1465
Seems like I'll start cheering for TSM now...

I never thought I'd see the day
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
November 03 2013 11:16 GMT
#1466
I'll have to find a new team to root for in EU. =S
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 03 2013 11:33 GMT
#1467
On November 03 2013 19:46 Lylat wrote:
I don't like it, the "great" EU vs NA rivalry is meaningless if EU talent keep joining NA teams :/

The answer is simple, we take the NA talent.

Urm.... GMB.Meteos?
Glorious SEA doto
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 03 2013 11:35 GMT
#1468
Haha I doubt Alex will agree being taxed cs and blue buff :p
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
November 03 2013 11:49 GMT
#1469
How would you all rate TSM in terms of individual talent compared to other LCS teams? Can TSM claim the title of having the best combination of mid-lane and bottom lane talent in the Western hemisphere?
TL+ Member
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 03 2013 11:51 GMT
#1470
The thing I definitely need to see first is how Rekkles will perform with Fnatic in the upcoming season. They seem like a very strong contender with him on top of xPeke, if he lives up to the hype.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 03 2013 11:54 GMT
#1471
On November 03 2013 20:49 Letmelose wrote:
How would you all rate TSM in terms of individual talent compared to other LCS teams? Can TSM claim the title of having the best combination of mid-lane and bottom lane talent in the Western hemisphere?

Yea they would win rights to boast that. The only thing that would solidify it further is if CLG benched liftlift, and sent him to Curse. Unable to meet Curse standards they release him shortly after announcement and he signs with TSM.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 03 2013 12:30 GMT
#1472
On November 03 2013 20:16 Gahlo wrote:
I'll have to find a new team to root for in EU. =S

Alternate train!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 03 2013 13:12 GMT
#1473
This is just speculation but I imagine TSM would have at least paid 5 digits to NiP to get Bjergsen.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 13:15:20
November 03 2013 13:13 GMT
#1474
Lol I just realized how well Regi pulled this "anti leak" off yesterday. Just saw that on reddit:

http://www.twitch.tv/tsm_reginald/b/475800903?t=44m45s

How subtle he mispronounced his name to make him sound disconnected from him was actually very smart.

On November 03 2013 22:12 AsnSensation wrote:
This is just speculation but I imagine TSM would have at least paid 5 digits to NiP to get Bjergsen.


Must be the case. I mean, 4 digits would be hilariously low for such a player, even if it was $ 9999.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 16:05:12
November 03 2013 14:58 GMT
#1475
On November 03 2013 20:01 UmberBane wrote:
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Btw Bjergsen seems to blend right in with the rest of TSM... 45k viewers right now on his stream

Edit: Like seriously I wonder how much money TSM makes on nights like these

[image loading]


I would be fairly confident in saying that TSM are the wealthiest team in eSports and generate the most direct revenue as well.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 15:05:21
November 03 2013 15:03 GMT
#1476
That's very interesting, although that's quite hard to define. What exactly is the "team"?

I think it's pretty safe to assume that TSM players have the highest income from streaming, which I'm sure gets greatly enhanced by them showing their big list of sponsors on their stream, too. I'm also sure they have very respectable subscriber counts.

However, do you count the revenue that solomid.net brings in to the team/organization?
Do you count big operating budgets of teams like SK Telecom T1, which makes them a very rich organization, but isn't directly transferred as salary to their players? Making their players poorer, but the team itself is still very wealthy.

Many factors to think about. ^^
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
November 03 2013 15:35 GMT
#1477
On November 04 2013 00:03 UmberBane wrote:
That's very interesting, although that's quite hard to define. What exactly is the "team"?

I think it's pretty safe to assume that TSM players have the highest income from streaming, which I'm sure gets greatly enhanced by them showing their big list of sponsors on their stream, too. I'm also sure they have very respectable subscriber counts.

However, do you count the revenue that solomid.net brings in to the team/organization?
Do you count big operating budgets of teams like SK Telecom T1, which makes them a very rich organization, but isn't directly transferred as salary to their players? Making their players poorer, but the team itself is still very wealthy.

Many factors to think about. ^^

I think he means as an esports company. Everything TSM does/has is about and related to esports. While companies like SKT do a lot of business, but have esports on the side.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 03 2013 15:44 GMT
#1478
Ah yeah, that's why I said SK Telecom T1, so specifically their eSports team.
No worries, though. I guess it's impossible to crunch any numbers on that anyway, because there simply are none. I guess TSM a safe bet if you had to put your money on one single richest organization which is purely eSports based.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 03 2013 16:08 GMT
#1479
NiP new lineup

Morten “Zorozero” Lyng Rosenquist – Top Lane
John “Hyrqbot” Velly – Jungle
Erlend “Nukeduck” Holm – Mid Lane
Aleš “Freeze” Kněžínek – AD Carry
Alfonso “Mithy” Aguirre Rodriguez – Support
Martin “Deficio” Lynge - Manager/Coach
Rammus “MrRallez” Skinneholm – Sub
Tobias “Malunoo” Magnusson – Sub

Source: https://www.facebook.com/NipGaming/posts/387843778015740
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 16:18:52
November 03 2013 16:09 GMT
#1480
RIP lemonpups.
Prediction: Dexter gets benched, tabzz stays on lemonpups, shook/nrated/kev1n/froggen fill out the roster for the SUPERTEAM.
Glorious SEA doto
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