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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2014 20:50 GMT
#5441
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sdnokv
Amin will not play in LCS due to school and grills. Looks like super MYM crew need a new jungle
Glorious SEA doto
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
October 30 2014 20:59 GMT
#5442
On October 31 2014 05:50 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sdnokv
Amin will not play in LCS due to school and grills. Looks like super MYM crew need a new jungle


Gotta be Trashy, right? Probably the most qualified free agent.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 21:04:12
October 30 2014 21:03 GMT
#5443
On October 31 2014 05:59 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 05:50 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sdnokv
Amin will not play in LCS due to school and grills. Looks like super MYM crew need a new jungle


Gotta be Trashy, right? Probably the most qualified free agent.


dexter is still open and considering that mithy is going to play for MYM if he's unbanned in December, i'm going with him.
Well, it's ofc if Amazing goes to H2K, and Trashy is out of LCS again then if he doesn't go to CLG.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 30 2014 21:47 GMT
#5444
Amazing to H2K really is a move I would like A LOT. I mean that team just screams potential. Febiven has 2 Accounts in like top 5 in soloq, Odoamne was the original choice for Froggen's "superteam" and Hjärnan (?) also a good soloq player.
Sure they are all young and unproven, but with good guidance and coaching they could go far. We need some pressure on the established teams in EU or else we have Cyanide and Soaz for another 4 splits...

oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 22:30:29
October 30 2014 22:05 GMT
#5445
On October 31 2014 06:47 Kenpark wrote:
Amazing to H2K really is a move I would like A LOT. I mean that team just screams potential. Febiven has 2 Accounts in like top 5 in soloq, Odoamne was the original choice for Froggen's "superteam" and Hjärnan (?) also a good soloq player.
Sure they are all young and unproven, but with good guidance and coaching they could go far. We need some pressure on the established teams in EU or else we have Cyanide and Soaz for another 4 splits...



Jwaow was original player for Froggen's superteam, Odoamne was figuring in rumours only when CLG were searching for toplaner but i'm not sure that if Odoamne in CLG happened, CLG would have stayed in LCS at all.
If H2K somehow make dream a reality and choke to not qualify to LCS, it's probably about time to retire for all three.

And Amazing isn't someone who's going to fix choking problems and guide "young and unproven guys".

At this point i seriously want sOAZ to just dump everyone who says that he blows and get fucking motivation, there is still no toplaner in EU who's better than him and that's quite an achievement by both sOAZ and other guys on toplane in West.
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
October 30 2014 22:28 GMT
#5446
On October 31 2014 07:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 06:47 Kenpark wrote:
Amazing to H2K really is a move I would like A LOT. I mean that team just screams potential. Febiven has 2 Accounts in like top 5 in soloq, Odoamne was the original choice for Froggen's "superteam" and Hjärnan (?) also a good soloq player.
Sure they are all young and unproven, but with good guidance and coaching they could go far. We need some pressure on the established teams in EU or else we have Cyanide and Soaz for another 4 splits...


At this point i seriously want sOAZ to just dump everyone who says that he blows and get fucking motivation, there is still no toplaner in EU who's better than him and that's quite an achievement.


That says alot about the current state of toplane in EU.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 30 2014 22:51 GMT
#5447
Oh right that was Jwaow my bad. But why should they retire lol. Febiven is like 17 or maybe 18 and is one of the upcoming star midlaners in EU. Not long ago he only played Riven and now he is prob the best soloq player after Incarnation. He def has the potential to become a top 3 mid in the LCS.
Yes they choked hard vs CW, but well it was their first really important match and they also got flown to the US which prob didnt add to comfort.
I def think there is some huge potential in that team.

And I do think that Amazing is pretty experienced at this point. Sure basically only 1 year, but being on a well run team in a high pressure situation like in TSM should help mature a lot.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 22:53:28
October 30 2014 22:52 GMT
#5448
Did we watch the same Soaz and Fredy for past half year if you say the former is better? Cause I sure as hell disagree.

Overall I feel like Dexter and Amazing are the best free junglers right now so I would be suprised if either of them didn't find a team, especially now that Amin decided to fuck it. I also agree that Amazing would be good for H2K assuming that he gets a lot of freedom there, unlike TSM where he's expected to do a particular thing and then gets fucked by draft and loses will to live.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 00:20:20
October 31 2014 00:20 GMT
#5449
I've never thought Soaz was particularly amazing, but it was really noticeable at Worlds that he basically jumped off of a cliff in terms of game impact.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 31 2014 00:41 GMT
#5450
Yes Soaz was horrible at worlds and I really doubt he finds his motivation at this point in his career. EU needs fresh blood desperately. We need young hungry guys, who want to become worlds best and not these seasoned pro's that maybe catch some motivation when playoffs arrive.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21700 Posts
October 31 2014 00:45 GMT
#5451
EU needs a C9. Their rise helped a lot to kick the stale NA trifecta into improving.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 31 2014 01:48 GMT
#5452
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
October 31 2014 02:05 GMT
#5453
Eh? Europe was never stale. S2 was M5/CLGeu/CRSeu/some other team I'm forgetting. S3 we had NiP, ATN, LD, FNC, EG and GMB all being legit contenders, despite all having some weaknesses. Just because NA finally caught up doesn't mean that EU needs some sort of messiah team. Coming to S4 SK was in a very similar position to C9, but they didn't dominate because meanwhile ALL formed and FNC got a legit botlane. C9 themselves probably could win EU LCS but I doubt they would dominate it like they did NA.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
October 31 2014 09:24 GMT
#5454
On October 31 2014 11:05 AlterKot wrote:
Eh? Europe was never stale. S2 was M5/CLGeu/CRSeu/some other team I'm forgetting. S3 we had NiP, ATN, LD, FNC, EG and GMB all being legit contenders, despite all having some weaknesses. Just because NA finally caught up doesn't mean that EU needs some sort of messiah team. Coming to S4 SK was in a very similar position to C9, but they didn't dominate because meanwhile ALL formed and FNC got a legit botlane. C9 themselves probably could win EU LCS but I doubt they would dominate it like they did NA.


Stop overrating c9 ffs. Fact that alliance trollpick rammus and won vs them said enough.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 31 2014 09:41 GMT
#5455
On October 31 2014 18:24 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 11:05 AlterKot wrote:
Eh? Europe was never stale. S2 was M5/CLGeu/CRSeu/some other team I'm forgetting. S3 we had NiP, ATN, LD, FNC, EG and GMB all being legit contenders, despite all having some weaknesses. Just because NA finally caught up doesn't mean that EU needs some sort of messiah team. Coming to S4 SK was in a very similar position to C9, but they didn't dominate because meanwhile ALL formed and FNC got a legit botlane. C9 themselves probably could win EU LCS but I doubt they would dominate it like they did NA.


Stop overrating c9 ffs. Fact that alliance trollpick rammus and won vs them said enough.


No lol. Wasn't a trollpick and one game in a bo2 that they split as being evidence of them being so much better is hilarious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 31 2014 09:47 GMT
#5456
On October 31 2014 09:45 Gorsameth wrote:
EU needs a C9. Their rise helped a lot to kick the stale NA trifecta into improving.

I dont think the league being stomped by one team like NA was by C9 is something EU should try to emulate lol. That was stale.

I really dont get how people can complain about staleness when literally every single team is having roster changes. How much more changes do you want? Have every single name from last season disappear? Sometimes the older palyers are better than the new, deal with it.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 31 2014 09:58 GMT
#5457
I don't think EU teams were stale, I think their meta game became pretty stale throughout this season. Hopefully their worlds showing gets them to shape up a bit.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 10:28:57
October 31 2014 10:16 GMT
#5458

Team king can be scratched off the kakao list also zombie WE might change their roster before LPL
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=120884&site=lol
Kuro, lee, guger and gorilla out of najin.
Glorious SEA doto
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 31 2014 11:18 GMT
#5459
Yellowstar wants to retire in one or two years.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 13:15:21
October 31 2014 12:37 GMT
#5460

Gogoing back to top, san back to OMG.
http://gambit-gaming.com/en/article/411
Kubon leaves gambit
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