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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
October 31 2014 16:57 GMT
#5481
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 31 2014 16:58 GMT
#5482
I wonder if in the future people will be doing articles about the great gutting of Korean talent of 2014.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2014 17:15 GMT
#5483
So basically looper, spirit, heart and acorn have to rebuild from scratch. That's even more interesting than wherever they're all headed
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 17:21:57
October 31 2014 17:21 GMT
#5484
On November 01 2014 02:15 Fusilero wrote:
So basically looper, spirit, heart and acorn have to rebuild from scratch. That's even more interesting than wherever they're all headed

At this point I am mostly interested in when the bleeding ends for Korea .
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 17:28:39
October 31 2014 17:23 GMT
#5485
On November 01 2014 02:21 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 02:15 Fusilero wrote:
So basically looper, spirit, heart and acorn have to rebuild from scratch. That's even more interesting than wherever they're all headed

At this point I am mostly interested in when the bleeding ends for Korea .

At least they still have faker... right!?
And space will still be on CJ! ALIVE REGION BOYS
Glorious SEA doto
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 17:36:36
October 31 2014 17:36 GMT
#5486
TBH I don't think korea will be that worse off. They nurtured great players before, and that won't stop. Obviously they won't 'grow' another Faker out of nowhere but I don't think they'll regress that bad. I will agree that Korea is bleeding talents like a pig right now, but once they cauterize the wound they will be back up and running.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 17:49:33
October 31 2014 17:48 GMT
#5487
On November 01 2014 02:36 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
TBH I don't think korea will be that worse off. They nurtured great players before, and that won't stop. Obviously they won't 'grow' another Faker out of nowhere but I don't think they'll regress that bad. I will agree that Korea is bleeding talents like a pig right now, but once they cauterize the wound they will be back up and running.

I tend to agree. Their real strength is their training infrastucture.
Kespa will bleed though. They surely have to pay much more money now.

Although I have to say I never understood why their salarys were so low. With all those high profile sponsors, lots of sucess in Korea being on TV and all, they should have enough money. Either they are bad at monetizing or they are greedy as fuck.
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2014 18:07 GMT
#5488
http://i.imgur.com/KB0NQwh.jpg
UoL and C9 currently leading the IEM votes. Dignitas is actually lower than T8, the dongers are lowered.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 31 2014 18:30 GMT
#5489
On November 01 2014 03:07 Fusilero wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KB0NQwh.jpg
UoL and C9 currently leading the IEM votes. Dignitas is actually lower than T8, the dongers are lowered.

UOL? Are you kidding me?

Well, never underestimate the power of bronies I guess.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22209 Posts
October 31 2014 18:38 GMT
#5490
On November 01 2014 03:07 Fusilero wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KB0NQwh.jpg
UoL and C9 currently leading the IEM votes. Dignitas is actually lower than T8, the dongers are lowered.

With no Scarra nor Qtie I guess the appeal of Dig is a lot lower.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 18:57:02
October 31 2014 18:56 GMT
#5491
On November 01 2014 00:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 00:32 orzeu wrote:
Difference is that teams like TSM, Curse are all in on League. Why would Alex Garfield spent money on management/coaches etc. when he can just sign new Dota 2 team?

Not at all. TSM has a few Hearthstone players, a Smash player, and don't they have a Smite team or something?


Not only does TSM have a Smite team, but they also won the Smite S1 World Championship.

http://www.tsm.gg/index.php/tsm-smite-team-wins-200k-launch-tournament/

TSM's Smite Skin for winning WC:
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Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 31 2014 20:30 GMT
#5492
Pawn and Dandy to IG according to http://www.dailydot.com/esports/pawn-dandy-invictus-gaming/

oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 20:41:38
October 31 2014 20:31 GMT
#5493
You know what it means?

WE ILLUSION/ZZITAI, LET'S GO, if we can't get EDG Illusion ofc.
Can't imagine Kid without Zzitai though, rofl.

On November 01 2014 03:30 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 03:07 Fusilero wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KB0NQwh.jpg
UoL and C9 currently leading the IEM votes. Dignitas is actually lower than T8, the dongers are lowered.

UOL? Are you kidding me?

Well, never underestimate the power of bronies I guess.


LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 21:15:13
October 31 2014 20:54 GMT
#5494
On November 01 2014 02:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 02:36 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
TBH I don't think korea will be that worse off. They nurtured great players before, and that won't stop. Obviously they won't 'grow' another Faker out of nowhere but I don't think they'll regress that bad. I will agree that Korea is bleeding talents like a pig right now, but once they cauterize the wound they will be back up and running.

I tend to agree. Their real strength is their training infrastucture.
Kespa will bleed though. They surely have to pay much more money now.

Although I have to say I never understood why their salarys were so low. With all those high profile sponsors, lots of sucess in Korea being on TV and all, they should have enough money. Either they are bad at monetizing or they are greedy as fuck.


Their 'real strength' is not training infrastructure but the 'tryhard culture' they managed to build around eSports. A recent article interviewed the Samsung head coach and he stated the team only requires players to practice 3-6 hours. The rest of the time is strictly personal motivation. Korean solo queue is ahead of other regions because everyone on it is highly motivated to win. Korean players are ahead of other players because they try harder. You don't ever hear of Korean teams trolling scrims the way other regions' teams do, and you don't ever hear of Korean players fooling around the way other regions' players do. Chinese coaches and managers have publicly expressed that they recruit Korean players because they simply aren't able to find equally motivated Chinese players, hence the failure of LSPL and the need to import. In the West it is the same deal.

As to KESPA, there is a recent downturn in the Korean economy - see, for example, http://online.wsj.com/articles/samsung-electronics-third-quarter-profit-falls-sharply-1414627015 - which explains why the sponsors want to cut back on extraneous spendings eg eSports. Sending their top players to other regions is preferable to forcing them into retirement, and trying to out-bid Chinese billionaires is equivalent to burning money. What the latter are doing is not sustainable whatsoever and no profit-seeking corporation is going to entangle themselves in it and in the process massively inflate player salaries.

It's banal these days to talk about economic bubbles in China, but in this case the stereotype holds. These Chinese billionaires' sons - from iG's owner to Snake's owner to EDG's owner - are throwing money around with zero business sense. It works for them because what do they care, they're rich. But insofar as the rest of the scene is involved, it is spending beyond the the actual value of these players, which hurts the industry in the long run because it makes it less of an industry than a private connoisseurs' club, thereby limiting expansion opportunities and demotivating business-minded sponsors.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 31 2014 22:02 GMT
#5495
China very well may end up being the most competitive season by the start of next season. Maybe we'll finally get some decent english coverage of it?
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 31 2014 22:36 GMT
#5496
Seems Scarra is now coach of CLG. The page isn't loading for me so I can't find out more.

http://blog.ibuypower.com/blog/2014/10/31/clg-brings-scarra-coach-tryouts-begin-immediately/
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2014 22:51 GMT
#5497

So is comely
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#5498
On November 01 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/ComelyCast/status/528316294794199040
So is comely

Everything good is Comely and Scarra, everything bad is Drunk Scarra. lol.
So the CLG now CLD? Counter Logic Dignitas? The amount of disappointment will be unreal. The Dig's good early season, and late season drop off paired with the "win 1 game give fans false hope" CLG strategy will be too good.
liftlift > tsm
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:00:41
October 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#5499
On November 01 2014 07:36 Numy wrote:
Seems Scarra is now coach of CLG. The page isn't loading for me so I can't find out more.

http://blog.ibuypower.com/blog/2014/10/31/clg-brings-scarra-coach-tryouts-begin-immediately/

Let's bring coaching stuff that didn't solve any Dignitas problem and focus on regional talent when there're A class Koreans available.



oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
October 31 2014 23:05 GMT
#5500
Okay, i won't show my disappointment.
Hope, Scarra and comely succeed, CLG bring Looper and dade/Swift/Spirit and everything will be good.
*WHY DO LIE TO YOURSELF*
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