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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 22:40:00
October 29 2014 22:39 GMT
#5401
People were chatting with krislund on paravine's channel during their show. He said he knows nothing about being replaced.
It may be behind his back but afaik krislund is staying on gambit
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 29 2014 23:02 GMT
#5402
On October 30 2014 07:23 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:45 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:31 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:01 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:14 Sakray wrote:
They picked CW over Gambit.

What the actual fucking fuck

They both suck.

You dont even know the lineup of any of those teams. Gambit one could be very interesting.

Yeah I do they both sucks.

Please tell me the rosters then, I am very curious about this.

Rub 2 neurons together. You're asking me to recite 10 player names from 2 teams over the internet like it means anything.

Not sure what you mean. I guess there is some wit to this that is lost on me because I am not a native speaker. But I guess in the end it means you actually dont know. Would have surprised me anyway.

His point is that regardless of what their roster may be, both teams will be shit.

And I'd probably agree with him.

And my point is that regardless of what the roster is he (and you it seems) will call them shit. Without any actual knowledge about their level of play. Just because of last seasons placement I assume, which tells us almost nothing.

After all we are looking at a Gambit roster that might be changed on 3/5 positions. Arguably their 3 weakest positions, which might make them a top contender in EU LCS.

My point was trying to call somebody out on knowing something on the internet when it's easily googlable is silly.

Anyway, back to the topic. You don't just wipe 3 players from a roster during the offseason and be good. How many teams are around for them to scrim right now? Challenger teams? Let's look at a team that did something similar, Alliance. They were left with Froggen/Wick'd and it took them about half a split to even be competitive. It wasn't until the Summer when they could actually contend.

Now look at the Gambit holdovers. Do Diamond/Edward/niQ bring the same clout as Froggen/Wick'd? No. I've seen everybody them play competitively recently and I've seen Kubon in ameture league. Never really impressed with any of them. Yet I'm supposed to believe the lineup is supposed to be a contender in LCS? I'm supposed to care about them when they've been a 5 man for a little over 3 months?

Don't really see an issue with IEM making Wolves an option over Gambit. Those teams are at best a coinflip.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 23:15:43
October 29 2014 23:08 GMT
#5403
On October 30 2014 08:02 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:23 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:45 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:31 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:01 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:14 Sakray wrote:
They picked CW over Gambit.

What the actual fucking fuck

They both suck.

You dont even know the lineup of any of those teams. Gambit one could be very interesting.

Yeah I do they both sucks.

Please tell me the rosters then, I am very curious about this.

Rub 2 neurons together. You're asking me to recite 10 player names from 2 teams over the internet like it means anything.

Not sure what you mean. I guess there is some wit to this that is lost on me because I am not a native speaker. But I guess in the end it means you actually dont know. Would have surprised me anyway.

His point is that regardless of what their roster may be, both teams will be shit.

And I'd probably agree with him.

And my point is that regardless of what the roster is he (and you it seems) will call them shit. Without any actual knowledge about their level of play. Just because of last seasons placement I assume, which tells us almost nothing.

After all we are looking at a Gambit roster that might be changed on 3/5 positions. Arguably their 3 weakest positions, which might make them a top contender in EU LCS.

Don't really see an issue with IEM making Wolves an option over Gambit. Those teams are at best a coinflip.

Nvm the other stuff as I see this will lead to nothing, but this here has to be clarified. It is obvious that IEM didnt chose anything here. They offered all teams to participate in the vote, but some chose not to go to IEM. Unfinished rosters likely being the reason.

edit: For Gambit visas might also play a role.

On October 30 2014 07:39 Fusilero wrote:
People were chatting with krislund on paravine's channel during their show. He said he knows nothing about being replaced.
It may be behind his back but afaik krislund is staying on gambit

Well Tabzz said the same like 2 days before being kicked. :D

Not saying he is off the team, only that this is not saying so much.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 29 2014 23:10 GMT
#5404
On October 30 2014 08:08 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 08:02 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 07:23 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:45 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:31 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:01 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:30 Gahlo wrote:
[quote]
They both suck.

You dont even know the lineup of any of those teams. Gambit one could be very interesting.

Yeah I do they both sucks.

Please tell me the rosters then, I am very curious about this.

Rub 2 neurons together. You're asking me to recite 10 player names from 2 teams over the internet like it means anything.

Not sure what you mean. I guess there is some wit to this that is lost on me because I am not a native speaker. But I guess in the end it means you actually dont know. Would have surprised me anyway.

His point is that regardless of what their roster may be, both teams will be shit.

And I'd probably agree with him.

And my point is that regardless of what the roster is he (and you it seems) will call them shit. Without any actual knowledge about their level of play. Just because of last seasons placement I assume, which tells us almost nothing.

After all we are looking at a Gambit roster that might be changed on 3/5 positions. Arguably their 3 weakest positions, which might make them a top contender in EU LCS.

Don't really see an issue with IEM making Wolves an option over Gambit. Those teams are at best a coinflip.

Nvm the other stuff as I see this will lead to nothing, but this here has to be clarified. It is obvious that IEM didnt chose anything here. They offered all teams to participate in the vote, but some chose not to go to IEM. Unfinished rosters likely being the reason.

Most recent CW list I saw doesn't even have an AD.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 29 2014 23:19 GMT
#5405
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/league-legends-competition-ruling-copenhagen-wolves
Copenhagen wolves fined for playing with airwaks and woolite without proper contracts signed
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 29 2014 23:21 GMT
#5406
On October 30 2014 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/league-legends-competition-ruling-copenhagen-wolves
Copenhagen wolves fined for playing with airwaks and woolite without proper contracts signed

CW fields has multiple players playing for them without contract, $1000 fine.

Regi announces Lustboy before behavior checks are completed, $2000 fine.

What.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 29 2014 23:21 GMT
#5407
On October 30 2014 08:02 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:23 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:52 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:45 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:31 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 06:01 Redox wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:30 Gahlo wrote:
On October 30 2014 05:14 Sakray wrote:
They picked CW over Gambit.

What the actual fucking fuck

They both suck.

You dont even know the lineup of any of those teams. Gambit one could be very interesting.

Yeah I do they both sucks.

Please tell me the rosters then, I am very curious about this.

Rub 2 neurons together. You're asking me to recite 10 player names from 2 teams over the internet like it means anything.

Not sure what you mean. I guess there is some wit to this that is lost on me because I am not a native speaker. But I guess in the end it means you actually dont know. Would have surprised me anyway.

His point is that regardless of what their roster may be, both teams will be shit.

And I'd probably agree with him.

And my point is that regardless of what the roster is he (and you it seems) will call them shit. Without any actual knowledge about their level of play. Just because of last seasons placement I assume, which tells us almost nothing.

After all we are looking at a Gambit roster that might be changed on 3/5 positions. Arguably their 3 weakest positions, which might make them a top contender in EU LCS.

My point was trying to call somebody out on knowing something on the internet when it's easily googlable is silly.

Anyway, back to the topic. You don't just wipe 3 players from a roster during the offseason and be good. How many teams are around for them to scrim right now? Challenger teams? Let's look at a team that did something similar, Alliance. They were left with Froggen/Wick'd and it took them about half a split to even be competitive. It wasn't until the Summer when they could actually contend.

Now look at the Gambit holdovers. Do Diamond/Edward/niQ bring the same clout as Froggen/Wick'd? No. I've seen everybody them play competitively recently and I've seen Kubon in ameture league. Never really impressed with any of them. Yet I'm supposed to believe the lineup is supposed to be a contender in LCS? I'm supposed to care about them when they've been a 5 man for a little over 3 months?

Don't really see an issue with IEM making Wolves an option over Gambit. Those teams are at best a coinflip.

If you actually look at how all teams have had roster changes,it is the off season,some teams are probably not going to take it seriously and we are playing on a patch that has seen 0 competetive play we could easily see a team that nobody expects to do well to win it.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 23:25:33
October 29 2014 23:24 GMT
#5408
It's not like Niels is randomly best adc in Europe, his stint in SKP was everything but impressive, but if Gambit stay with Krislund, they're definitely contenders for relegations, even if Diamondprox randomly becomes best Western jungler again, he's probably worst adc in whole Western premier leagues world at this point.

CW still have Youngbuck, so they're shit no matter what, and with Western world skills of learning champions, i'd say that Orianna bans are going to hurt them a lot.

About IEM - i'd wish that UoL get there, get demolished in groups by Brazil, then people will stop talking about toplaner like he's random God which was granted to us, mortals.

On October 30 2014 08:21 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/league-legends-competition-ruling-copenhagen-wolves
Copenhagen wolves fined for playing with airwaks and woolite without proper contracts signed

CW fields has multiple players playing for them without contract, $1000 fine.

Regi announces Lustboy before behavior checks are completed, $2000 fine.

What.


Why bother trying to find logic in Riot decisions, rofl.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
October 30 2014 00:14 GMT
#5409
Actually would be cool if UOL get voted in, I'd really like to see POE and Visic against legit competition. SK is probably out of question because no one realises that Sven did nothing wrong, and I'd rather not see SHC with replacements. I'd actually prefer C9 over Curse because the more C9 the better and Curse should be go-karting with Piglet, not going to tournaments.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 00:48:11
October 30 2014 00:42 GMT
#5410




So dade isn't going to Snake most likely, so King.dade inc.

Also, as confirmation how did Snake get CRE sponsorship.

LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 00:55:06
October 30 2014 00:49 GMT
#5411


Damn. Dexter back to NA?
Anyone has some reasonable speculation where to if true?

On October 30 2014 09:14 AlterKot wrote:
Actually would be cool if UOL get voted in, I'd really like to see POE and Visic against legit competition. SK is probably out of question because no one realises that Sven did nothing wrong, and I'd rather not see SHC with replacements. I'd actually prefer C9 over Curse because the more C9 the better and Curse should be go-karting with Piglet, not going to tournaments.

SHC has also the problem that Mithy should still be banned for IEM. So really the 4 EU choices dont look too good atm. Overall I would probably like to see SK most though.

On October 30 2014 08:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why bother trying to find logic in Riot decisions, rofl.

Difference was intent as explained by Nick Allen. Besides both fines are laughably low and more symbolic than anything else.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 01:04:12
October 30 2014 00:59 GMT
#5412
Well, reason why SHC shouldn't be voted is basically same why Roccat/Fnatic don't play.

And Nick Allen can't be bothered to explain everything :D
And if dexter goes to NA, then i won't be surprised if suddenly CLG didn't find proper replacement.

C9 are ok, TSM have Santorin, LMQ?
Curse are ok, Dignitas are ok, CLG?
EG are ok it seems, T8 are ok, coL are ok, Coast have Impaler now.

Going to LMQ seems random nowdays, considering that they didn't find ad/top either, so i'd say that possibility of him in CLG is bigger.

On October 30 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Well, reason why SHC shouldn't be voted is basically same why Roccat/Fnatic don't play.

And Nick Allen can't be bothered to explain everything :D
And if dexter goes to NA, then i won't be surprised if suddenly CLG didn't find proper replacement.

C9 are ok, TSM have Santorin, LMQ?
Curse are ok, Dignitas are ok, CLG?
EG are ok it seems, T8 are ok, coL are ok, Coast are ok.


You are right Dexter to NA doesnt make sense. It is probably just about him going to Paris Gamers week and a chipotle place in France. :D


And probably thank God :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 01:03:11
October 30 2014 01:02 GMT
#5413
On October 30 2014 09:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Well, reason why SHC shouldn't be voted is basically same why Roccat/Fnatic don't play.

And Nick Allen can't be bothered to explain everything :D
And if dexter goes to NA, then i won't be surprised if suddenly CLG didn't find proper replacement.

C9 are ok, TSM have Santorin, LMQ?
Curse are ok, Dignitas are ok, CLG?
EG are ok it seems, T8 are ok, coL are ok, Coast are ok.


You are right Dexter to NA doesnt make sense. It is probably just about him going to Paris Gamers week and a chipotle place in France. :D
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 30 2014 01:03 GMT
#5414
On October 30 2014 09:49 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 08:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why bother trying to find logic in Riot decisions, rofl.

Difference was intent as explained by Nick Allen. Besides both fines are laughably low and more symbolic than anything else.

Yeah, TSM with the devious intent of telling fans about their newest acquisition.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 30 2014 09:37 GMT
#5415
Long article about some of the crazyness in Chinese esports and how streaming drives the salaries.

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/we-play-here-so-you-don-t-have-to-embarrass-yourse/1100-2309/
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2014 10:20 GMT
#5416
http://www.teamcurse.net/news/30005-team-curse-partners-with-quest-nutrition
Quest nutrition partners with team curse. Liquid sure knows how to get the mileage out of a team that has only ever won one thing which was disallowed by MLG
Glorious SEA doto
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 30 2014 10:33 GMT
#5417
On October 30 2014 19:20 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.teamcurse.net/news/30005-team-curse-partners-with-quest-nutrition
Quest nutrition partners with team curse. Liquid sure knows how to get the mileage out of a team that has only ever won one thing which was disallowed by MLG


Not like they don't have screen time doe.
Fan of the Jangbanger
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
October 30 2014 13:50 GMT
#5418
So it looks like all six pre-qualified NA expansion tournament seeds will be vacated?
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
October 30 2014 14:06 GMT
#5419
On October 30 2014 22:50 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
So it looks like all six pre-qualified NA expansion tournament seeds will be vacated?


Why ?
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 14:55:05
October 30 2014 14:54 GMT
#5420
On October 30 2014 23:06 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 22:50 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
So it looks like all six pre-qualified NA expansion tournament seeds will be vacated?


Why ?



Curse Academy - Changed two members, apparently Keane having visa issues. They were spamming ranked 5s last night with Bigfatlp.

Coast - Changed three members, also spamming fives

CoL - Changed three members, also spamming fives.

XDG - Disbanded.

Denial - Disbanded.

LoLPro - Qualified team disbanded.

I don't get why CA, Coast and CoL would all be spamming fives unless they had to requalify, playing fives is a huge waste of time.
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