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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 15:10:12
October 30 2014 15:09 GMT
#5421
On October 30 2014 23:54 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 23:06 Sakray wrote:
On October 30 2014 22:50 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
So it looks like all six pre-qualified NA expansion tournament seeds will be vacated?


Why ?

I don't get why CA, Coast and CoL would all be spamming fives unless they had to requalify, playing fives is a huge waste of time.


Because you need to keep at least 3 members if you want to keep your spot I guess.
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
October 30 2014 15:14 GMT
#5422
On October 31 2014 00:09 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 23:54 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 30 2014 23:06 Sakray wrote:
On October 30 2014 22:50 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
So it looks like all six pre-qualified NA expansion tournament seeds will be vacated?


Why ?

I don't get why CA, Coast and CoL would all be spamming fives unless they had to requalify, playing fives is a huge waste of time.


Because you need to keep at least 3 members if you want to keep your spot I guess.


Yeah, that's my point! Certainly it must mean most (if not all) of the NA expansion pre-qualified spots are vacant, which could be huge. Ladder ranking will actually be quite significant now if the top teams potentially will get first-round byes.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22209 Posts
October 30 2014 15:20 GMT
#5423
And it gos to show how utterly unstable the scene is outside of the LCS, even a relatively easy spot into the expansion tournament cant keep em together.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 30 2014 15:54 GMT
#5424
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
October 30 2014 16:14 GMT
#5425
I bet this thread has a smile on its face whenever off season is.
Science>Mechanics
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
October 30 2014 16:19 GMT
#5426
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


Keane who is having huge visa issues (I'd imagine his situation is a bit weird having lived in OCE for a while but being a Korean citizen?) As has been stated, they've been playing with bigfatlp (and winning!) in 5s.

Cris is out for Hauntzer who came up from the LoLPro team. Cris left quite a while ago so I'd actually say that CA has had 1 actual recent roster change and if Keane does get his visa sorted he's back in npnp
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2014 16:21 GMT
#5427
On October 31 2014 01:19 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


Keane who is having huge visa issues (I'd imagine his situation is a bit weird having lived in OCE for a while but being a Korean citizen?) As has been stated, they've been playing with bigfatlp (and winning!) in 5s.

Cris is out for Hauntzer who came up from the LoLPro team. Cris left quite a while ago so I'd actually say that CA has had 1 actual recent roster change and if Keane does get his visa sorted he's back in npnp

Or they fall apart and they don't qualify and Keane gets to go to the main Curse team! Sorry Voy...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
October 30 2014 16:25 GMT
#5428
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


From the qualified team, Cris -> Hauntzer, Impactful -> Cop. Now, Keane was having visa issues but I just checked Saint's Ask.fm and he says Keane will come back this weekend, so seems like crisis averted. But still, looking like the #1 and #2 challenger ladder teams may wind up with first round byes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 16:48:01
October 30 2014 16:47 GMT
#5429
On October 31 2014 00:20 Gorsameth wrote:
And it gos to show how utterly unstable the scene is outside of the LCS, even a relatively easy spot into the expansion tournament cant keep em together.

The scene inside the LCS is pretty volatile too, look at all the memberswaps and drops that are happening.
the only difference is there are restrictions to what they can do (taking only like 1 member from another lcs team, and foreigner limits)
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 18:06:41
October 30 2014 17:54 GMT
#5430
On October 31 2014 01:25 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


From the qualified team, Cris -> Hauntzer, Impactful -> Cop. Now, Keane was having visa issues but I just checked Saint's Ask.fm and he says Keane will come back this weekend, so seems like crisis averted. But still, looking like the #1 and #2 challenger ladder teams may wind up with first round byes.


It's not like Cop will singlehandedly carry CA to LCS, rofl, like it happened with Curse twice before.
Either it's going to be Keane, bigfatlp or other one trick pony it doesn't matter at all.

Only toss up is Fusion vs coL #2, this might be interesting just because coL #1 has Kez who tends to shit bed in Promotions.
Coast are just too random to call them as favourites and LolPro is same story.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 19:09:50
October 30 2014 18:36 GMT
#5431
On October 31 2014 02:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 01:25 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


From the qualified team, Cris -> Hauntzer, Impactful -> Cop. Now, Keane was having visa issues but I just checked Saint's Ask.fm and he says Keane will come back this weekend, so seems like crisis averted. But still, looking like the #1 and #2 challenger ladder teams may wind up with first round byes.


It's not like Cop will singlehandedly carry CA to LCS, rofl, like it happened with Curse twice before.
Either it's going to be Keane, bigfatlp or other one trick pony it doesn't matter at all.

Only toss up is Fusion vs coL #2, this might be interesting just because coL #1 has Kez who tends to shit bed in Promotions.
Coast are just too random to call them as favourites and LolPro is same story.


I dunno, I actually think Enemy, LoLPro, CoL, Crushed Dreamz (CoL #2), Coast and Fusion all have pretty equal chances of making the #2 spot. I mean, you say it's a toss up between Fusion and CoL #2, but Enemy beat Fusion (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1610215310) and CoL 2 (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1603192553) in 25 minute stomps with final kill scores of like 25-5. Then, they turn around and lose to CoL #1 (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1609763744). They all seem pretty capable of beating each other at this point.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 19:15:40
October 30 2014 18:42 GMT
#5432
Is enemy still the same roster as they announced? Because I thought that roster was pretty good, at least until otter randomly leaves it next week
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/krislund-gambit-gaming/
Lord lewis has spoken, krislund will survive. Krislund getting into LCS before beansu or trashy did from that RG squad makes me feel so wrong
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 19:19:06
October 30 2014 19:18 GMT
#5433
On October 31 2014 03:36 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 02:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 31 2014 01:25 ExceliosBeyond wrote:
On October 31 2014 00:54 Numy wrote:
Who did CA change? If they lose Keane their chances of making it almost vanish.


From the qualified team, Cris -> Hauntzer, Impactful -> Cop. Now, Keane was having visa issues but I just checked Saint's Ask.fm and he says Keane will come back this weekend, so seems like crisis averted. But still, looking like the #1 and #2 challenger ladder teams may wind up with first round byes.


It's not like Cop will singlehandedly carry CA to LCS, rofl, like it happened with Curse twice before.
Either it's going to be Keane, bigfatlp or other one trick pony it doesn't matter at all.

Only toss up is Fusion vs coL #2, this might be interesting just because coL #1 has Kez who tends to shit bed in Promotions.
Coast are just too random to call them as favourites and LolPro is same story.


I dunno, I actually think Enemy, LoLPro, CoL, Crushed Dreamz (CoL #2), Coast and Fusion all have pretty equal chances of making the #2 spot. I mean, you say it's a toss up between Fusion and CoL #2, but Enemy beat Fusion (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1610215310) and CoL 2 (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1603192553) in 25 minute stomps with final kill scores of like 25-5. Then, they turn around and lose to CoL #1 (http://www.lolking.net/replay/na/1609763744). They all seem pretty capable of beating each other at this point.


It's ranked fives, lol.
And i'm not going to put a single ruble on inori performing on stage + if otter is behind, they have sick troubles transitioning into midgame from what i've seen.

Lol, Krislund. Gambit is safe pick for bot-4 now.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 19:23:28
October 30 2014 19:19 GMT
#5434
On October 31 2014 03:42 Fusilero wrote:
Is enemy still the same roster as they announced? Because I thought that roster was pretty good, at least until otter randomly leaves it next week

Dunno what they announced, but it is unchanged for some time I think.
It is this roster: http://www.trackingthepros.com/team?id=41

They are indeed doing pretty well on ladder. Yesterday they got stomped twice by Coast though.
Interestingly Coast has now started to grind the team ladder. No idea if just for practise or if they lost their expansion spot after all.

Regarding Gambit that we talked about yesterday, I checked lolnexus and they are atm apparently scrimming with Cabochard, Diamond, Krislund, Edward. Dont know who plays mid.

edit: ok dailydot also says Krislund.
Off-season = best season
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 30 2014 19:20 GMT
#5435
LoL scene is such a clusterfuck right now.

Still boggles the mind that Ich is teamless what with all the NA teams that apparently need a mid.
SUNSFANNED
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 30 2014 19:22 GMT
#5436
On October 31 2014 04:20 BrownBear wrote:
LoL scene is such a clusterfuck right now.

Still boggles the mind that Ich is teamless what with all the NA teams that apparently need a mid.

Even if there were not the problems with visa, family etc he is not LCS level atm imo.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 19:24:16
October 30 2014 19:23 GMT
#5437
On October 31 2014 04:19 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 03:42 Fusilero wrote:
Is enemy still the same roster as they announced? Because I thought that roster was pretty good, at least until otter randomly leaves it next week

Dunno what they announced, but it is unchanged for some time I think.
It is this roster: http://www.trackingthepros.com/team?id=41

They are indeed doing pretty well on ladder. Yesterday they got stomped twice by Coast though.
Interestingly Coast has now started to grinded the team ladder. No idea if just for practise or if they lost their expansion spot after all.

Regarding Gambit that we talked about yesterday, I checked lolnexus and they are atm apparently scrimming with Cabochard, Diamond, Krislund, Edward. Dont know who plays mid.

edit: ok dailydot also says Krislund.


It's not like Challenger teams have shittons of practice partners now, when everyone has holidays from LCS squads and just starts scrimming in 1-2 weeks.
So, gotta grind, i'd say, to build up shinergy.

Will be fun though if suddenly Coast saves their expansion spot with Riot's making a "TSM poached and got fined" call.

On October 31 2014 04:22 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 04:20 BrownBear wrote:
LoL scene is such a clusterfuck right now.

Still boggles the mind that Ich is teamless what with all the NA teams that apparently need a mid.

Even if there were not the problems with visa, family etc he is not LCS level atm imo.


For NA mids? Please, he might not be Pobelter/XWX/Bjergsen, other are up to him.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 30 2014 19:36 GMT
#5438
Alex has been real terror last few months so don't know if anyone would want to pick him up even without the family issues.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2014 19:43 GMT
#5439
If teams wanted to gamble on a player suddenly becoming top tier I'd definitely go with alex in the right environment. But all the visa and family issues linked with him makes it tricky iirc he can only really take offers from German teams to play in LCS because of the visa clusterfuck linked to him.
Glorious SEA doto
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 30 2014 20:32 GMT
#5440
Too much extra baggage for AlexIch, i wouldn't gamble on him at all.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
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